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I want to meet shah too, don't give me a warning for that.



I met him. And pretended to smash a beer bottle over his head. :D



The preferred method is an open cold one.. preferably cheap... so as not to be accused of alcohol abuse... and then cram the neck of the open cold one down the back of the jeans.

I have several people I wish to share a beer with in this manner...:ph34r:

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I want to meet shah too, don't give me a warning for that.



I met him. And pretended to smash a beer bottle over his head. :D



The preferred method is an open cold one.. preferably cheap... so as not to be accused of alcohol abuse... and then cram the neck of the open cold one down the back of the jeans.

I have several people I wish to share a beer with in this manner...:ph34r:




Drunk crabs...sounds like fun! :ph34r:










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I want to meet shah too, don't give me a warning for that.



I met him. And pretended to smash a beer bottle over his head. :D



The preferred method is an open cold one.. preferably cheap... so as not to be accused of alcohol abuse... and then cram the neck of the open cold one down the back of the jeans.

I have several people I wish to share a beer with in this manner...:ph34r:



Good job i dont drink then:D:D:D:D:D
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The preferred method is an open cold one.. preferably cheap... so as not to be accused of alcohol abuse... and then cram the neck of the open cold one down the back of the jeans.



Is that defined as the adult "wedgie"?
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The preferred method is an open cold one.. preferably cheap... so as not to be accused of alcohol abuse... and then cram the neck of the open cold one down the back of the jeans.



Is that defined as the adult "wedgie"?




You betcha Bob;)

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Are the natural women in the competition afraid of losing to someone who has studied feminine grace more?


I imagine they would be pissed to lose to a medical experiment.

Is there a Dr. Frankenstein in the house?
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I want to meet shah too, don't give me a warning for that.



I met him. And pretended to smash a beer bottle over his head. :D


Yeah but that was my idea remember! And didn't I buy you that beer buddy?

And hey I lasted 4 months not being mean to engineers and I think that's a good effort on my part! For an addict I say that's a good start. I think I can do another 4 months!

Any how back on topic! Yeah she is very cute! I hope she wins? Did she win? Better question? Who watches these shows any more? I remember they were something amazing but now it's kind of so ho hum?

God I recall there was this gorgeous girl who worked at Pashas a great night club in NYC where my friend knows the owner.....Paris something or another! She was stunning! I mean you would step over your own mother to say hi! She was so hot girls would bitch about how hot she was. So that should tell you about how hot she really was. Well she was once a dude. More power to her for working that hard in being comfy in her skin.
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I'm stuck on Jerry's argument that it's surgical team vs surgical team. I think I have the idea for a new reality show!!!

Take a dozen ugly ducklings; apply the extreme makeover teams; have a beauty pageant! Winning surgical teams get great publicity. Keep the contestants below a certain income level and claim it is a charity. Tax deductions galore!

Wonder if I can get a government grant for this idea???
I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet..

But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course.

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There was a show like that a few years back called the Swan?
They would take as you said ho hum women but who had some serious trauma in their lives and who were deserving and would do just that. Over a period of 6 months they would get the Demi More treatment.
Some came out the other end looking stunning!
Others came out with a great boost of self esteem.

You know I know they say it's all about what is on the inside that counts but we view ourselves via the mirror upon which others view us. And if you are viewed a given way by others over time that can erode one's self worth.

Hey don't look at me, yeah I may be mean to the engineers on line but I do my upmost to be civil in public and pull them aside and talk.
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Pretty sure I heard about it. Dang. Another 'get rich quick' down the drain. :)

I'm really just wondering how many of those women already have cosmetic surgery. Seems there was a discussion once that breast augmentation was authorized, but not else. Not sure. Might research it. Kind of interesting to me. How much is permitted? If anthing goes, why can't this 'guy turned gal' compete?
I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet..

But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course.

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Well when the world gets calmer get on a plane and fly over to Venesuala. The home of the greatest number of Ms. Universes....
For a man it’s a great place to visit! (insert joke about engineering chick hell).
Any how yes many of the girls get little work done here and a little work done there. I think they are allwed to have augmentation and reduction. I think it was Ms. USA who would not allow it?
I guess you could say beauty is like any atheletic event? If there is a way to make one athlete better than the other sceice has found a way?

Just wait till we figure out the DNA code and you can pre order a smart attractive kid! Or worse! Give someone a virus which will turn them from a troll to a prince?
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I can't find any rules against cosmetic surgery in the Miss Universe. In fact, a former Miss Brazil was very open about the 19 procedures she had in preparation for the competition. It may vary by competition. Articles I found suggested that it's pretty common and breast augmentation is the most common form.
I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet..

But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course.

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Well when the world gets calmer get on a plane and fly over to Venesuala. The home of the greatest number of Ms. Universes....



Apparently not



Somethings wrong here. I don't see Argentina. I've seen the women in Argentina. Miss Universe quality bodies and faces are everywhere.
I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet..

But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course.

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Well when the world gets calmer get on a plane and fly over to Venesuala. The home of the greatest number of Ms. Universes....



Apparently not


Oh we got one more? No kidding!
Was it the greatest number of Ms. Universes per capita? Was that their claim to fame?
Either way let me tell you the view did not suck! And yeah a good number of the ladies had a good number of augmentations and tucks and what not.

Now not as amazing as Argentina and Colombia but it was still very nice! :)
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just following up on what someone said before.

If you start taking hormones before puberty the change turns out far better than later. You see more and more younger kids starting the transition which makes it far easier for them to transition.

I think Kim Petras was the youngest person to start the hormone replacement treatments, which she started at 12 years old. She is some german pop star.

Here are pics.
http://kimpetras.tv/photos/

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I don't see why she is any different that any of the other contestants whose beauty has been created with medical technology and makeup.



Good point. I would expect breast augmentation to be the norm in fashion, pageant, model world. Probably other things like lips and such as well. Removal of a penis (absent the typical male emotional attachment) doesn't seem as big a proceedure.

I've never held cosmetic surgery against anyone. I'm a fan of breast augmentation. This one just kind of got my curiosity.

Most of the trans I've seen go out of their way to move and act very feminine. Many women in today's world avoid it or at least never adopt it. Odd, since I think it gives them (women) a great advantage in life.

Are the natural women in the competition afraid of losing to someone who has studied feminine grace more?



You make a really good point. I would think it would be intimidating to compete against someone who is more girl than girls are :P
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Is it possible that starting the hormones so young actually affected the skeletal development. Those certainly look like girl hips. :)



That's true. Transgender kids who "passed" the judgements by the doctors specialising in this field are first given hormones to suppress puberty, often until the age of 16. No deeper voice, no Adam's apple, no facial nor pubic hair etc for boys. The longer this period the more they can grow. Then they are given female hormones which would - if given earlier - have an impact on their growth. Final stage is the OP. There's lotta stuff here for example. You may have a look at these videos (deal with transgender boys and girls)

Kim Petras was the first transgender kid to have the final operation at age 16, in Germany. She's so beautiful and is a singer. She speaks English very well, might have a look at her Youtube channel.

Ah speaking of singers: Don't forget Dana International. Look She even won the Eurovision Sonmg Contest for Israel :)
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I don't have a problem with her being miss universe (not saying you do artwardo but doing this from a kindle and just easier to reply on last post). We probably don't know whole story. Maybe she was born with organs of both sexes which I believe is hermaphradite and could have chosen to be male or female. Who knows? Could have doubled chances for success. Maybe could have been Mr Universe!

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We probably don't know whole story. Maybe she was born with organs of both sexes which I believe is hermaphradite and could have chosen to be male or female. Who knows? Could have doubled chances for success. Maybe could have been Mr Universe!



We do know, she was born with only male genitalia. Its pretty well documented, unless you believe she is some kind of secret hermafradite even though her birth certificate says otherwise.

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We probably don't know whole story. Maybe she was born with organs of both sexes which I believe is hermaphradite and could have chosen to be male or female. Who knows? Could have doubled chances for success. Maybe could have been Mr Universe!



We do know, she was born with only male genitalia. Its pretty well documented, unless you believe she is some kind of secret hermafradite even though her birth certificate says otherwise.


birth certs are written from a visual perspective not a genetic one.
Many polyploidy babies have been written as male then gender reassigned later and vice versa
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You are a fucking nerd. Where do you jump? I wanna meet you in person. I bet you are a bitch....im tired of your mouth...



C'mon, guy. If you are really that thin-skinned maybe bowling would be a better idea for you.

If you let internet conversation get your goat, maybe you could take up a career traveling the universe insulting every living being in it.


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