alex_778 0 #1 January 9, 2005 Hi, does anyone know anything about the VTP-100. This is a rig I have heard about in connection with the Czech Republic. I believe it is a military HALO rig and may have had some technical problems resulting in a grounding a few years ago. All help and input welcome. Cheers from the UK. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ciechan 0 #2 January 9, 2005 technical data: http://fjk-kl.de/vereinsschirm.htm This canopy was made by Anex-Cirus, czech company which is inexperienced in parachute designing. Czech army bought parachutes for over $ 5 000 000. From 500 parachutes only few passed the tests. Josef Pavlata, coach of czech national team and World Champion said about Anex-Cirus products: "This pice of shit (VTP-100) should be gathered in one place and burned!". The tests confirmed that canopies ripped in the air, the lines broke and there was a lot of opening malfunctions. Czech Ministry of Defence confirmed that parachutes can not be used by army. (news from newspapers) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites alex_778 0 #3 January 9, 2005 @Chiechen Thank you for the information, I appreciate it. So why are the boys at the Fallschirmjaeger Gemeinschaft using the rig if it so unreliable. I tried to read some write ups in a Czech website but the translation software could not cope, I got the idea that they are a piece of shit though. I found the company Mars in the Czech Rep. when I was looking for infos, are thier rigs any good or are they associated with the VTP-100? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ciechan 0 #4 January 9, 2005 No, Mars is totally different company. http://www.marsjev.cz/ I can sey it is very good company - we use their parachutes in our club for students (Mars 330, Mars 290). They are very good rigs for good price and we have only ~250 km to the factory They have also their own AAD http://www.mpaad.com/ We use them with their rigs Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites alex_778 0 #5 January 9, 2005 Thank you again. I had a peek at your bio. if I see you in Poland I will say hello, I may be over in August. A friend of mine keeps trying to get me to do military jumps again - 'Nowy Targ' I think is the place they go to. Thanks again. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ciechan 0 #6 January 9, 2005 You are welcome Nowy Targ is one of our DZ's It is in Tatry, our biggest mountains. A view of the mountains tooks breath away, especially sunset jumps. I think the jumps your friend are thinking about aren't strictly military jumps. It is commercial camp for bodyguards who want to make jump using military round parachutes and military procedures. due to regulations it is very hard to jump with the army. But I heard that it is much easier for foreigners Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites pbla4024 0 #7 January 10, 2005 I jumped canopy of VTP-100 and it's fine, huge F-111 glider. I heard container is useless. Article about development of VTP-100 is here: http://www.paraclub.cz/main.php?body=VTP-100 Do you need some more specific info? Fido Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites alex_778 0 #8 January 10, 2005 @ ciechan, This is who organises military jumps: www.european-paratrooper.de/europeanparatrooper_de/menu_page/page_all.php If you look under TERMINE you can see the dates for Poland and also some for the Czech Republic. Not Nowy Targ though, instead a place called Zakopane. I was shown pictures of Nowy Targ previously and they all received the Polish military wings. I believe there is also another group of military para's that organises these weekends in Poland and the Czech Republic also. @Fido, I am just doing some background research on HALO rigs at the moment and this one popped up. Thanks for the pointer to the paraclub website, if I have any problems on the translation can I PM you? Alex Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0 Go To Topic Listing
ciechan 0 #2 January 9, 2005 technical data: http://fjk-kl.de/vereinsschirm.htm This canopy was made by Anex-Cirus, czech company which is inexperienced in parachute designing. Czech army bought parachutes for over $ 5 000 000. From 500 parachutes only few passed the tests. Josef Pavlata, coach of czech national team and World Champion said about Anex-Cirus products: "This pice of shit (VTP-100) should be gathered in one place and burned!". The tests confirmed that canopies ripped in the air, the lines broke and there was a lot of opening malfunctions. Czech Ministry of Defence confirmed that parachutes can not be used by army. (news from newspapers) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alex_778 0 #3 January 9, 2005 @Chiechen Thank you for the information, I appreciate it. So why are the boys at the Fallschirmjaeger Gemeinschaft using the rig if it so unreliable. I tried to read some write ups in a Czech website but the translation software could not cope, I got the idea that they are a piece of shit though. I found the company Mars in the Czech Rep. when I was looking for infos, are thier rigs any good or are they associated with the VTP-100? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ciechan 0 #4 January 9, 2005 No, Mars is totally different company. http://www.marsjev.cz/ I can sey it is very good company - we use their parachutes in our club for students (Mars 330, Mars 290). They are very good rigs for good price and we have only ~250 km to the factory They have also their own AAD http://www.mpaad.com/ We use them with their rigs Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alex_778 0 #5 January 9, 2005 Thank you again. I had a peek at your bio. if I see you in Poland I will say hello, I may be over in August. A friend of mine keeps trying to get me to do military jumps again - 'Nowy Targ' I think is the place they go to. Thanks again. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ciechan 0 #6 January 9, 2005 You are welcome Nowy Targ is one of our DZ's It is in Tatry, our biggest mountains. A view of the mountains tooks breath away, especially sunset jumps. I think the jumps your friend are thinking about aren't strictly military jumps. It is commercial camp for bodyguards who want to make jump using military round parachutes and military procedures. due to regulations it is very hard to jump with the army. But I heard that it is much easier for foreigners Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites pbla4024 0 #7 January 10, 2005 I jumped canopy of VTP-100 and it's fine, huge F-111 glider. I heard container is useless. Article about development of VTP-100 is here: http://www.paraclub.cz/main.php?body=VTP-100 Do you need some more specific info? Fido Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites alex_778 0 #8 January 10, 2005 @ ciechan, This is who organises military jumps: www.european-paratrooper.de/europeanparatrooper_de/menu_page/page_all.php If you look under TERMINE you can see the dates for Poland and also some for the Czech Republic. Not Nowy Targ though, instead a place called Zakopane. I was shown pictures of Nowy Targ previously and they all received the Polish military wings. I believe there is also another group of military para's that organises these weekends in Poland and the Czech Republic also. @Fido, I am just doing some background research on HALO rigs at the moment and this one popped up. Thanks for the pointer to the paraclub website, if I have any problems on the translation can I PM you? Alex Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
ciechan 0 #6 January 9, 2005 You are welcome Nowy Targ is one of our DZ's It is in Tatry, our biggest mountains. A view of the mountains tooks breath away, especially sunset jumps. I think the jumps your friend are thinking about aren't strictly military jumps. It is commercial camp for bodyguards who want to make jump using military round parachutes and military procedures. due to regulations it is very hard to jump with the army. But I heard that it is much easier for foreigners Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pbla4024 0 #7 January 10, 2005 I jumped canopy of VTP-100 and it's fine, huge F-111 glider. I heard container is useless. Article about development of VTP-100 is here: http://www.paraclub.cz/main.php?body=VTP-100 Do you need some more specific info? Fido Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alex_778 0 #8 January 10, 2005 @ ciechan, This is who organises military jumps: www.european-paratrooper.de/europeanparatrooper_de/menu_page/page_all.php If you look under TERMINE you can see the dates for Poland and also some for the Czech Republic. Not Nowy Targ though, instead a place called Zakopane. I was shown pictures of Nowy Targ previously and they all received the Polish military wings. I believe there is also another group of military para's that organises these weekends in Poland and the Czech Republic also. @Fido, I am just doing some background research on HALO rigs at the moment and this one popped up. Thanks for the pointer to the paraclub website, if I have any problems on the translation can I PM you? Alex Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
