crazydiver 0 #1 March 11, 2013 So, I pay a guy 1200 bucks for a container here on DZ.com classifieds last tuesday February 26. He says he will ship it out Thursday when he's back in town. I email him Sunday, March 3 asking for the tracking number and he says he sent the package but his girlfriend has the tracking number/invoice. That's the last I've heard from him after multiple emails and I have not received the package. He said he would ship it Thursday or Friday, February 28/29. Today is March 10 and I still have no email contact from him with tracking info nor do I have a container on my doorstep. How long before I go crazy and start blasting him on facebook and calling DZs around where his LinkedIn and Facebook pages say he lives or has lived in the last couple years? I've seen a couple videos from him with a simple google search, so he's a legitimate person. Am I crazy to be pissed? Cheers, Travis Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 14 #2 March 11, 2013 Maybe you should out him right here. There are DZ.com peeps all over the country that could help you out. I've had that kind of help in the past. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crazydiver 0 #3 March 11, 2013 I'm tryin to decide when is appropriate. I am giving him until the end of tomorrow and then its blast city. Cheers, Travis Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 622 #4 March 11, 2013 Depending on how someone ships something....via UPS or USPS can take a week or 10 days....maybe this? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 0 #5 March 11, 2013 Not to close the door after the horse is gone, but this is a lesson that using a rigger or gear shop as an escrow service, if that's available to you, is a damned good idea, and worth every penny of the fee charged. Hope it works out ok for you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maksimsf 0 #6 March 11, 2013 With that amount of posts it seems like you are not new to dz.com I've seen a lot of post from peoples that been scammed by a "legit skydivers". Why not to use escrow? If there is no one to do escrow with in your area you may always do it with guys at chutingstar. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 14 #7 March 11, 2013 QuoteNot to close the door after the horse is gone, but this is a lesson that using a rigger or gear shop as an escrow service, if that's available to you, is a damned good idea, and worth every penny of the fee charged. I've been the trusting guy and the trusted guy many times. So far, so good, but I think that's just luck. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #8 March 11, 2013 QuoteQuoteNot to close the door after the horse is gone, but this is a lesson that using a rigger or gear shop as an escrow service, if that's available to you, is a damned good idea, and worth every penny of the fee charged. I've been the trusting guy and the trusted guy many times. So far, so good, but I think that's just luck. Same here, but the last couple of items I sold included canopies that I refused to sell with out someone else vouching for the individual. So phone calls to DZs (numbers that I located, not the numbers provided by people) to verify the individual helped put my mind at ease that the person could handle the high performance canopy and that they were real people. It also gave me a way to out someone very directly if they tried to screw me over.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davelepka 4 #9 March 11, 2013 QuoteI am giving him until the end of tomorrow and then its blast city I admire your restriant. I understand that shipping takes time, but calls/emails/facebook does not (for the most part). Anytime I have bought or sold anything expensive (gear, motorcycles, etc) I treat the sale like a job in that I make communication and staying on top of the deal my top priority (or as close as I can get). In any case, calls/emails are always answered same-day, regardless if I am the buyer or the seller. Even if you're a big-shot rich guy, it's not hard to imagine that to someone buying a used rig (or whatever), a $1000+ transaction is a 'big deal' and deserves the courtesy or a timely reply. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 24 #10 March 11, 2013 Quote Quote Not to close the door after the horse is gone, but this is a lesson that using a rigger or gear shop as an escrow service, if that's available to you, is a damned good idea, and worth every penny of the fee charged. I've been the trusting guy and the trusted guy many times. So far, so good, but I think that's just luck. Or having enough streets smarts to have a few contacts vouch for the other party, or trust your guts. In the last month, I let a good deal go by when someone in Eastern Europe wouldnt use an Escrow service after I couldnt get someone we both knew that he was legit. The same week, I concluded a deal with no escrow with a guy where a mutual friend vouched for both of us. The scary part was, that friend was DiabloPilot. Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,053 #11 March 11, 2013 QuoteHow long before I go crazy and start blasting him on facebook and calling DZs around where his LinkedIn and Facebook pages say he lives or has lived in the last couple years? IMO.. you're behind schedule. To not even send the tracking number in a timely manner is a prelude to getting scammed. Make some noise.Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
J-S 0 #12 March 11, 2013 Try calling UPS or the carrier of your package. You might be able to get your tracking number using your name/address. Who knows, maybe he got robbed of his computer or phone and doesn't have access to the Internet. Maybe, he's in the hospital or something, shit happens. Whatever the problem is for the lack of follow through, I'd wait to bash him. If the said package was giving to UPS on a Friday afternoon at the latest, it gets shipped on Monday, the end of today is the 6th working day en route. I'd give it a day more, giving across country ground is at worst 7 days to me. I'd try calling the carrier though first. Good luck! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 0 #13 March 11, 2013 QuoteTo not even send the tracking number in a timely manner is a prelude to getting scammed. Yeah that's a real radar blip right there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crazydiver 0 #14 March 11, 2013 Just feels odd to me since he is all over social media sites, etc. I can find his linked in page, Facebook, and a couple youtube videos of him. That's why I was reluctant to thinking I was getting scammed. But feels shady. Cheers, Travis Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phillbo 11 #15 March 11, 2013 Post to his Facebook site asking for the tracking number. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWFlyer 2 #16 March 11, 2013 Quote Quote Not to close the door after the horse is gone, but this is a lesson that using a rigger or gear shop as an escrow service, if that's available to you, is a damned good idea, and worth every penny of the fee charged. I've been the trusting guy and the trusted guy many times. So far, so good, but I think that's just luck. Well, there was that one time.... "There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crazydiver 0 #17 March 11, 2013 Well, nothing in the mail today again and nothing on my doorstep. Nor has he replied to my emails. Here is the official Chris Schuster dz.com thread for me to attempt to recover my 1200 bucks. Tell all your friends in upstate NY and Lexington, KY/Start Skydiving area. I'll be calling DZs this week. http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=4455444;#4455444 Cheers, Travis Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtval 0 #18 March 11, 2013 QuoteNot to close the door after the horse is gone, but this is a lesson that using a rigger or gear shop as an escrow service, if that's available to you, is a damned good idea, and worth every penny of the fee charged. Hope it works out ok for you. Had to do it, for comedic effect, Andy.My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 14 #20 March 12, 2013 Quote Well, there was that one time.... I know exactly the one you mean. That wasn't even our doing. A 3rd party set it up. But even then, our community support was fantastic. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #21 March 12, 2013 Quote Quote Well, there was that one time.... I know exactly the one you mean. That wasn't even our doing. A 3rd party set it up. But even then, our community support was fantastic. That situation was TOTALLLLLY unwarrantedI still wonder if the person ever realized just how badly they screwed the pooch in this sport with that little game they wanted to play with the good people in the sport. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 14 #22 March 12, 2013 Quote I still wonder if the person ever realized just how badly they screwed the pooch in this sport with that little game they wanted to play with the good people in the sport. I just like to remember all the good people in our sport. Outsiders can come in and try to F people over, but word gets out quick. I love our community. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
promise5 17 #23 March 12, 2013 eeeeekkkkkkkkkkNo matter how slowly you say oranges it never sounds like gullible. Believe me I tried. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 14 #24 March 12, 2013 Quote eeeeekkkkkkkkkk You'll be fine . . . Except watch out for skydivers. They are pretty much the guys your mom warned you about. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldwomanc6 38 #25 March 12, 2013 Quote Quote eeeeekkkkkkkkkk You'll be fine . . . Except watch out for skydivers. They are pretty much the guys your mom warned you about. You need to be buying keyboard gift cards in bulk and send me a bunch! lisa WSCR 594 FB 1023 CBDB 9 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
