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..take the use of force continuum from there.



What a wonderful phrase. Is there any legal definition behind that?



Yup, think of it like a ladder, for most departments it starts with something like "officer presence" and goes all the way up the rungs from there. I'm sure some of our resident lawyers could give the full version from their side.
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The reactions did not surprise me. I learned from personal experience that you can be attacked in front of dozens of witnesses, and probably none of the cowards will lift a finger to help you.

Being not too bright, I've gone to the rescue for people getting their ass kicked. I've got a nice scar on my chin from one time (out numbered and out gunned) but I think I'd do it all over again. :S

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The reactions did not surprise me. I learned from personal experience that you can be attacked in front of dozens of witnesses, and probably none of the cowards will lift a finger to help you.

Being not too bright, I've gone to the rescue for people getting their ass kicked. I've got a nice scar on my chin from one time (out numbered and out gunned) but I think I'd do it all over again. :S

Me too, I have a lot of trouble living with the alternative.
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"Evil prospers, when good men stand by and do nothing" v(or similar)
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This poor soul cried out
time and time again for help but no
person answered her calls. Though
many saw, not one so much as called.
Her assailant wiped the bloody knife
off on her lifeless little body.
They watched as he simply walked
away. Nobody wanted to get involved.
Nobody wanted to take a stand... We
must fear evil men and deal with
them accordingly but what we must
truly guard against, what we must
fear most
Is the indifference of good men.




Sure it's from a movie, but it's similar to what you're referencing.
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This poor soul cried out
time and time again for help but no
person answered her calls. Though
many saw, not one so much as called.
Her assailant wiped the bloody knife
off on her lifeless little body.
They watched as he simply walked
away. Nobody wanted to get involved.
Nobody wanted to take a stand... We
must fear evil men and deal with
them accordingly but what we must
truly guard against, what we must
fear most
Is the indifference of good men.




Sure it's from a movie, but it's similar to what you're referencing.



A reference to this? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Kitty_Genovese
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This poor soul cried out
time and time again for help but no
person answered her calls. Though
many saw, not one so much as called.
Her assailant wiped the bloody knife
off on her lifeless little body.
They watched as he simply walked
away. Nobody wanted to get involved.
Nobody wanted to take a stand... We
must fear evil men and deal with
them accordingly but what we must
truly guard against, what we must
fear most
Is the indifference of good men.




Sure it's from a movie, but it's similar to what you're referencing.


A reference to this? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Kitty_Genovese


Yup and from the opening scene of The Boondock Saints.;)
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I'll be darned. I didn't know that was used in a movie.



Put Boondock Saints on your list to watch, cult classic. Very funny/entertaining, but it may take more than one viewing to catch some of the jokes. The sequel, well, not so much.
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I'll be darned. I didn't know that was used in a movie.



Put Boondock Saints on your list to watch, cult classic. Very funny/entertaining, but it may take more than one viewing to catch some of the jokes. The sequel, well, not so much.



Weird. I've never seen such a huge gap between the "Tomatometer" and "Audience" ratings.
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/boondock_saints/#contentReviews
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I'll be darned. I didn't know that was used in a movie.



Put Boondock Saints on your list to watch, cult classic. Very funny/entertaining, but it may take more than one viewing to catch some of the jokes. The sequel, well, not so much.



Weird. I've never seen such a huge gap between the "Tomatometer" and "Audience" ratings.
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/boondock_saints/#contentReviews



That's because it isn't a "good" movie, it is however a cult classic and a fun watch.
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I'll be darned. I didn't know that was used in a movie.



Put Boondock Saints on your list to watch, cult classic. Very funny/entertaining, but it may take more than one viewing to catch some of the jokes. The sequel, well, not so much.


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..take the use of force continuum from there.



What a wonderful phrase. Is there any legal definition behind that?



Here's a boilerplate version:

http://www.nij.gov/topics/law-enforcement/officer-safety/use-of-force/continuum.htm

It gives a nice defense against "excessive use of force" complaints because it starts off with a minimum and escalates. It gives a "Stop it or else" kind of thing, and gives guidelines on what "Or else" means.

It's one of the nicer results of the LAPD vs Rodney King bout.
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What if you come upon a murder in progress? Quite a spread of reactions in this video. SFW

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qo6Jzh7SHRA



I hope they understand the level of risk they take doing that. I thought the fire extinguished was a nice touch but that could have easily become a blunt weapon applied to the assailants skull.

What do you think- not done in the States or someplace with no CCW permits?



Not to get it sent to SC...but anyone with a CCW permit should know you don't open fire on that.

Who's to say who the actual victim is & who the perp is...maybe the vic had just turned the tables on the bad guy...then ya shoot him?

Bad plan ;)


Exactly. You have no idea who is the actual bad guy.

I loved the fire extinguisher and the dude who took the pic with his phone.

I would do one of those 2.

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These sorts of pranks could get someone hurt or killed.[:/]



Agreed. And for what? I don't think the video provided any real insight into human nature.


The reactions did not surprise me. I learned from personal experience that you can be attacked in front of dozens of witnesses, and probably none of the cowards will lift a finger to help you.


Its called diffusion of responsibility. Especially in larger groups, Everyone assumes/expects/diverts responsibility to someone eles and nothing gets done.

Basic psychology. Unfortunately.
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Its called diffusion of responsibility. Especially in larger groups, Everyone assumes/expects/diverts responsibility to someone eles and nothing gets done.

Basic psychology. Unfortunately.

That's too bad, since the group would be more effective than an individual. [:/] One time jumping into an uneven fight to help out some kid, I was running over to help and, when I looked over my shoulder, his buddies were going the other way. :S

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Its called diffusion of responsibility. Especially in larger groups, Everyone assumes/expects/diverts responsibility to someone eles and nothing gets done.

Basic psychology. Unfortunately.

That's too bad, since the group would be more effective than an individual. [:/] One time jumping into an uneven fight to help out some kid, I was running over to help and, when I looked over my shoulder, his buddies were going the other way. :S


Figures. [:/]
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