Private pilot bails

[skyjames 2]

I don't know any private pilots who wear a bail out rig. This pilot must have seen it coming.

http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/us/2014/04/19/dnt-pilot-parachutes-to-safety.wcax.html?hpt=hp_t3

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[pcramil 0]

Makes sense. Aerobatic pilots usually wear bailout rigs, even though technically they don't have to.

[theonlyski 3]

pcramil

Makes sense. Aerobatic pilots usually wear bailout rigs, even though technically they don't have to.

A lot of the pilots that I know who do acro believe they have to wear the rig... I don't argue the point with them.

Of course, they don't believe that it has to be legal unless they're going to get ramped.

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[DougH 270]

I wonder what went wrong that he thought it was better to bail out than to try to put it down on the highway/shoulder.

They keep emphasizing how severe the crash was, yeah duh, aircraft don't tend to land well sans pilot input!

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[BillyVance 34]

pcramil

Makes sense. Aerobatic pilots usually wear bailout rigs, even though technically they don't have to.

My brother's friend made me put on a bailout rig before he'd take me up in his Extra 300L. Told me if something happens, the glass canopy opens or whatever, look back. If he's not in his seat, get out and jump.

Considering we were flying around over Monterey Bay, CA I didn't like that option. Thankfully I didn't have to bail.

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[BillyVance 34]

pcramil

Makes sense. Aerobatic pilots usually wear bailout rigs, even though technically they don't have to.

My brother's friend made me put on a bailout rig before he'd take me up in his Extra 300L. Told me if something happens, the glass canopy opens or whatever, look back. If he's not in his seat, get out and jump.

Considering we were flying around over Monterey Bay, CA I didn't like that option. Thankfully I didn't have to bail.

"Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban

[Andy9o8 2]

Pfft. Tree landing. What a turkey!

[quade 4]

pcramil

Makes sense. Aerobatic pilots usually wear bailout rigs, even though technically they don't have to.

Since when?

http://flighttraining.aopa.org/magazine/2002/July/200207_Departments_Legal_Briefing.html

Parachutes are required for aerobatics. There are exceptions for flight instruction required for certifications (like spin training for CFIs), but if you're doing intentional aerobatics, you and everyone in the plane should be wearing a parachute. This includes anything with a bank angle greater than 60 degrees or pitch angle greater than 30 degrees off the horizon.

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[JohnMitchell 16]

DougH

I wonder what went wrong that he thought it was better to bail out than to try to put it down on the highway/shoulder

A guy I know was doing a low pass in a aerobatic biplane. As he pulled out, the elevator linkage broke and he lost pitch control. He undid the harness, stood up and deployed the canopy right out of the cockpit at 300'. Plane went in, of course. So . . . $hit happens.

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They keep emphasizing how severe the crash was, yeah duh, aircraft don't tend to land well sans pilot input!

And how the pilot was "lucky" to get out. I don't know how hard or easy it was for him to get out. But, are we "lucky" every time we use our reserves? Or just well practiced?

[JohnMitchell 16]

Andy9o8

Pfft. Tree landing. What a turkey!

And it was practically the only tree!

Considering most people's PLF skills, or lack of them, it's probably just as well the tree caught him.

[Andy9o8 2]

JohnMitchell

***Pfft. Tree landing. What a turkey!

And it was practically the only tree!

Considering most people's PLF skills, or lack of them, it's probably just as well the tree caught him.

Classic target fixation!

[akjmpplt 0]

quade

Since when?

Since he has actually read the FAR. Parachutes only required if you have passengers. Solo you can do what you want without a parachute.

SmugMug

[quade 4]

"other than a crew member"

You're right. My bad. Serves me right for remembering things wrong.

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[Bertt 0]

To be nit-picky, "...other than a required crewmember...".
You can't take a passenger and call him a navigator to get around the rule.

You don't have to outrun the bear.

[rmarshall234 13]

Not your usual bread and butter private pilot...

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A hell-of-a-pilot and a hell-of-a good guy too.

Nice work, Dan

[ryoder 1,590]

There was a catastrophic failure of some sort in the front of the airplane that sent parts through the canopy, wings, and tail. Control inputs were unresponsive and it quickly became evident that a landing would not be possible. Egress was successful and our Strong parachute deployed quickly and comfortably.

I hate it when that happens.

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[Mach1dmb 0]

BillyVance

***Makes sense. Aerobatic pilots usually wear bailout rigs, even though technically they don't have to.

My brother's friend made me put on a bailout rig before he'd take me up in his Extra 300L. Told me if something happens, the glass canopy opens or whatever, look back. If he's not in his seat, get out and jump.

Considering we were flying around over Monterey Bay, CA I didn't like that option. Thankfully I didn't have to bail.

I flew aerobatics in an Extra 300 once. The guy told me that nobody has ever had to bail from one before. I wasn't totally against the idea of something going wrong.

[monkycndo 0]

I work with a guy that does aerobatics. I suggested he do a Cat A so he would at least know what it would be like to be under a canopy.

He said no fucking way would he waste the money.

If he had to use his PEP, it would be a VERY expensive jump. No need to shell out cash before he had to.

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[councilman24 37]

Okay, so what manufacturer gets credit for the save. Only photo on his website that shows his parachute. I'm thinking its a strong based on laterals, back pad and adjustable harness.

Opinions?
missed that the rig was identified above.

Also some rigger gets a pilot save, not to common.

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[rmarshall234 13]

He said it was a Strong.

[JohnMitchell 16]

"Put your faith in God, but put your trust in a Security Lopo."

[Calvin19 0]

Pilot made a good save.

In another life I was owned a Citabria. Two seat aerobatic trainer. We had parachutes that stayed in the hangar most of the time. If I was doing a blatant acro ride with someone we would wear them, but mostly that 20lbs would put us above max gross with a full tank going XC, so it was a lazy roll or nothing.

THEN. During the annual inspection the mechanic charged me $300 for the pull-pull elevator linkage replacement. When he showed me the reason, I included a panel removal and inspection every other flight.
The 7x19 where it runs under the aft seat and through a pulley had frayed down to about 20% of the cable.

I had practiced trim-only landings for the fun of it with marginal success. It was a real possibility. (the trim system is a separate cable friction lever actuating a pull-pull trim tab)

Terrifying stuff.

[riggerrob 623]

Mach1dmb

******Makes sense. Aerobatic pilots usually wear bailout rigs, even though technically they don't have to.

My brother's friend made me put on a bailout rig before he'd take me up in his Extra 300L. Told me if something happens, the glass canopy opens or whatever, look back. If he's not in his seat, get out and jump.

Considering we were flying around over Monterey Bay, CA I didn't like that option. Thankfully I didn't have to bail.

I flew aerobatics in an Extra 300 once. The guy told me that nobody has ever had to bail from one before. I wasn't totally against the idea of something going wrong.

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We have sold dozens ... nay ... hundreds of emergency parachutes to Extra pilots.

[riggerrob 623]

"The Canadian Air Regulations are even vaguer than the American Federal Air Regulations, so we follow International Aerobatic Council guidelines." said Donn Richardson, a retired Transport Canada pilot inspector who still enjoys competing in his Christen Eagle aerobatic biplane.

Similarly, the North American Trainer Association publishes much stricter (than FARs) standards for their Formation and Safety Training seminars. If you show up at a FAST training camp, bring your (hard-shell) helmet, Nomex flying suit and parachute. "I will never fly in another man's airplane without a chute." said long-time aerobatic and T-28D pilot Peter Hertzig.

If you want to fly aerobatics or formations with the big boys, you have to wear a parachute.

[mjosparky 4]

akjmpplt

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Since when?

Since he has actually read the FAR. Parachutes only required if you have passengers. Solo you can do what you want without a parachute.

Yea, what he said. ^^^

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