kawisixer01 0 #1 July 28, 2015 I keep getting bugged by Microsoft to upgrade to 10 for free. Anyone done it? Pros/Cons? I'm just fine with 7.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #2 July 28, 2015 LOL Im still on XP You are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kawisixer01 0 #3 July 28, 2015 LOL I wish they would have kept patching XP. I've been through two industrial control systems migrations at two different employers in the last year, one being a major power provider to the national power grid. It was painful. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uer16 1 #4 July 28, 2015 kawisixer01... XP ... industrial control systems ... Well there's your problem. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlyingRhenquest 1 #5 July 28, 2015 uer16***... XP ... industrial control systems ... Well there's your problem. I don't know which would be worse, that or the ancient in-house UNIX system I ran across at one client's site. I forget what the manufacturer name was, but it wasn't any of the major brands -- not AIX, SGI, SCO, HPUX, Solaris or Linux, nor any hardware sold by any of those guys. Wasn't DGUX, either. It was still UNIXy, so I could get around in it pretty well, but I bet those guys didn't (or perhaps, won't) have a fun migration path whenever they decide they need to upgrade their systems off 300 MhZ processors. I suppose they could side-grade all their hardware to Raspberry PIs and be maintainable for the indefinite future.I'm trying to teach myself how to set things on fire with my mind. Hey... is it hot in here? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob.dino 0 #6 July 28, 2015 kawisixer01 LOL I wish they would have kept patching XP. I've been through two industrial control systems migrations at two different employers in the last year, one being a major power provider to the national power grid. It was painful. Speaking someone who writes software for a living: if you let yourself get 14 years behind the current release, the upgrade is going to be painful. You need to change your procedures to accommodate a faster release schedule; that's just the way the world is going. Microsoft are moving towards a new more-iterative release process for Windows 10. Which means you're much less likely to have huge big-bang upgrades, but you are more likely to see smaller breakages in your software on a more regular basis. On the plus side, when it's a Microsoft bug, they'll be able to fix it faster too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tkhayes 124 #7 July 28, 2015 I probably will, but I do not use it for anything important. I run a VmWare virtual windows 8.1 machine on my Mac just to run Quicken. Also gives me a chance to test the shit and see it to decide whether I want to migrate at the office as well. Windows 7 to 8 was pretty painful. 7 still at work and an old 2003 server, but plans to go to latest server releases this summer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #8 July 28, 2015 I'll be running Windows 10 when it comes out. But I don't think it comes out until the 29th? Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,380 #9 July 28, 2015 FlyingRhenquest I don't know which would be worse, that or the ancient in-house UNIX system I ran across at one client's site. I forget what the manufacturer name was, but it wasn't any of the major brands -- not AIX, SGI, SCO, HPUX, Solaris or Linux, nor any hardware sold by any of those guys. Wasn't DGUX, either. It was still UNIXy, so I could get around in it pretty well, but I bet those guys didn't (or perhaps, won't) have a fun migration path whenever they decide they need to upgrade their systems off 300 MhZ processors. I suppose they could side-grade all their hardware to Raspberry PIs and be maintainable for the indefinite future. Ever encounter this? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo/Domain The idiots at Motorola Land Mobile Products had latched onto it before I started there in the mid-90's, and put *all* their s/w development on it. Then HP bought Apollo, and EOL'd it. When I started there, all new development was being done on Sun and HP, but there was tons of legacy crap still on "Domain OS". Domain OS had no concept of security. When you logged in on one machine, you were effectively logged in on *all* of them, with all their filesystems appearing to be one unified file system. And to make it (supposedly) easier, there was an environment variable you could set to either "BSD4" or "SYSV" to make it (sort of) mimic Unix. But nothing ever worked like you would expect."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CSpenceFLY 1 #10 July 28, 2015 uer16***... XP ... industrial control systems ... Well there's your problem. I haven't had a single problem with my XP system since Microsucks stopped "supporting" it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimjumper 25 #11 July 28, 2015 I went MAC 3 years ago. I want to use my computer rather than figure out how to make it work. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yoink 321 #12 July 28, 2015 CSpenceFLY******... XP ... industrial control systems ... Well there's your problem. I haven't had a single problem with my XP system since Microsucks stopped "supporting" it. But from memory you have at least 2 huge vulnerabilities in your system as a result. Using an obsolete OS for storing any important data is a bad idea. It will look all good until it completely isn't - By then it's too late. I liked XP. I now like Win 7 and have no need to move to win 10. If you domove, read this article about making sure your wireless password isn't sharing itself with your facebook friends and outlook contacts... social network integration can fuck right off. http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2015/07/28/windows-10-wifi-sharing/#more-304239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #13 July 28, 2015 CSpenceFLY******... XP ... industrial control systems ... Well there's your problem. I haven't had a single problem with my XP system since Microsucks stopped "supporting" it. Sure.. maybe you should only jump rounds as well Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #14 July 29, 2015 Wait... what??? What the hell happened to Windows 9??? Use 7 at home, and 8 at work. I upgraded to 8.1, but realized it caused issues we didn't want, so I went back to 8. "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #15 July 29, 2015 BillyVance Wait... what??? What the hell happened to Windows 9??? Use 7 at home, and 8 at work. I upgraded to 8.1, but realized it caused issues we didn't want, so I went back to 8. I should add that after I reloaded the original 8, I kept getting notices to upgrade, and got sick of it always popping up. Some research online and I figured it out, went into the deep bowels of the settings and turned the fucking thing off. BOOM... no more pop-ups. I've worked in peace since."Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 620 #16 July 29, 2015 Quote Using an obsolete OS for storing any important data is a bad idea. It will look all good until it completely isn't - By then it's too late. I liked XP. I now like Win 7 and have no need to move to win 10. Wait, what? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #17 July 29, 2015 Just wondering what version of Windows was the first one any of you had on your home computer? My first PC had Windows 3.1. I'd used Macs in college and had a Mac SE30 that I used at home until the early 90's. I still have that bitch in the attic in its carrying case. "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #18 July 29, 2015 BillyVance Wait... what??? What the hell happened to Windows 9??? Use 7 at home, and 8 at work. I upgraded to 8.1, but realized it caused issues we didn't want, so I went back to 8. I was dogfooding and using Windows 9 for over a year... then the Windows group decided to rebrand...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #19 July 29, 2015 BillyVance Just wondering what version of Windows was the first one any of you had on your home computer? My first PC had Windows 3.1. I'd used Macs in college and had a Mac SE30 that I used at home until the early 90's. I still have that bitch in the attic in its carrying case. Win 3.1????? DUUUUDE your just a newb........ I still have the 5.25" disk and the box that came with the mouse in it for Windows 1 stashed somewhere in my garage with all the other outdated stuff like Windows 286 and Windows 386 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #20 July 29, 2015 Amazon ***Just wondering what version of Windows was the first one any of you had on your home computer? My first PC had Windows 3.1. I'd used Macs in college and had a Mac SE30 that I used at home until the early 90's. I still have that bitch in the attic in its carrying case. Win 3.1????? DUUUUDE your just a newb........ I still have the 5.25" disk and the box that came with the mouse in it for Windows 1 stashed somewhere in my garage with all the other outdated stuff like Windows 286 and Windows 386 My first computer was a Radio Shack TRS-80, which is still in my parents' basement. Can you beat that! "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #21 July 29, 2015 BillyVance ******Just wondering what version of Windows was the first one any of you had on your home computer? My first PC had Windows 3.1. I'd used Macs in college and had a Mac SE30 that I used at home until the early 90's. I still have that bitch in the attic in its carrying case. Win 3.1????? DUUUUDE your just a newb........ I still have the 5.25" disk and the box that came with the mouse in it for Windows 1 stashed somewhere in my garage with all the other outdated stuff like Windows 286 and Windows 386 My first computer was a Radio Shack TRS-80, which is still in my parents' basement. Can you beat that! Try again... I started using computers in 1976 I bought my own Apple II in 1978 with a whopping 4k in the first bank of ram chips... no drive other than cassette loads... I still have several iterations of Apple IIs as well as about 20 MACs going back to my first 128k from early 1984. oh and they all work.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 620 #22 July 29, 2015 My first computer was a Sperry Univac AN/UYK-7(v). It was a 16bit system that faked a 32bit system by using "half words" which required a LOT of memory. LOL Toroidal core memory at that. Sewn together by little old ladies. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #23 July 29, 2015 Amazon *********Just wondering what version of Windows was the first one any of you had on your home computer? My first PC had Windows 3.1. I'd used Macs in college and had a Mac SE30 that I used at home until the early 90's. I still have that bitch in the attic in its carrying case. Win 3.1????? DUUUUDE your just a newb........ I still have the 5.25" disk and the box that came with the mouse in it for Windows 1 stashed somewhere in my garage with all the other outdated stuff like Windows 286 and Windows 386 My first computer was a Radio Shack TRS-80, which is still in my parents' basement. Can you beat that! Try again... I started using computers in 1976 I bought my own Apple II in 1978 with a whopping 4k in the first bank of ram chips... no drive other than cassette loads... I still have several iterations of Apple IIs as well as about 20 MACs going back to my first 128k from early 1984. oh and they all work.. Damn... You're old. "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #24 July 29, 2015 normiss My first computer was a Sperry Univac AN/UYK-7(v). It was a 16bit system that faked a 32bit system by using "half words" which required a LOT of memory. LOL Toroidal core memory at that. Sewn together by little old ladies. Dude... those teletype machines in the upper left.... I've got one of those things in my garage. A little different though. It's about 3 feet tall and weighs a fucking ton it seems like. The early phone for the deaf. "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #25 July 29, 2015 Twardo's computer. "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
