No Chute 25K Jump....

[Phillbo 11]

Is this for real? Am I the only person that thinks this has very bad idea written all over it? Anyone familiar with the details?

http://www.dropzone.com/news/General/Luke_Aikins_Planning_No-Parachute_Jump_From_25_000ft_1111.html

[Amazon 7]

Phillbo

Is this for real? Am I the only person that thinks this has very bad idea written all over it? Anyone familiar with the details?

http://www.dropzone.com/news/General/Luke_Aikins_Planning_No-Parachute_Jump_From_25_000ft_1111.html

Repost.. look at the HolyMotherhucking Shitake thread

If anyone can do it.. Luke can.

[quade 3]

There are only 1 of 3 outcomes from this;

1 -- He does it and lives and is a "hero."

2 -- He does it and does not live and everyone says, "well duh!"

3 -- He does what so many people have done before him and talks about it for years, gets money for appearances, continues to talk about it, makes more appearances and money, talks about it some more, the day of the event gets cancelled due to weather, he makes more appearances and money -- NEVER ACTUALLY MAKES THE JUMP.

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[jumpwally 0]

i agree but add why ? So what if it works,,really,,then what ?

smile, be nice, enjoy life
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[BillyVance 34]

Anybody wanna bet he hits or misses?

"Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban

[quade 3]

BillyVance

Anybody wanna bet he hits or misses?

The bigger bet is whether he really does it or just exploits the idea of doing it.

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[ryoder 1,381]

quade

There are only 1 of 3 outcomes from this;

1 -- He does it and lives and is a "hero."

2 -- He does it and does not live and everyone says, "well duh!"

3 -- He does what so many people have done before him and talks about it for years, gets money for appearances, continues to talk about it, makes more appearances and money, talks about it some more, the day of the event gets cancelled due to weather, he makes more appearances and money -- NEVER ACTUALLY MAKES THE JUMP.

You forgot:

4 -- Some English bloke with a pile of cardboard boxes beats him to it.

"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

[Phillbo 11]

I'm curious why the 25K exit? Time to adjust if his trajectory is off?

[quade 3]

Phillbo

I'm curious why the 25K exit? Time to adjust if his trajectory is off?

Dunno.

It's one of the goofier things about it.

He's certainly not going to get a more accurate spot from 25k.
He's certainly not going to be falling any faster than from 12.5k or 5k for that matter.

Maybe it just sounds good and impressive in the press releases?
Maybe he's hoping for a 2 minute long exit to bounce bit of drama?
Maybe he thinks since it's twice as high as skydivers normally jump people will think it's twice as . . . I'm not even sure what word I'm looking for here . . . "good"? "heroic"? "dangerous?

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[quade 3]

ryoder

4 -- Some English bloke with a pile of cardboard boxes beats him to it.

lol

^^^ BTW, that's not an LOL. That's a touchdown.

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[rwieder 0]

I think he pulls it off. Then goes on to make more money than Donald Trump.

-Richard-
"You're Holding The Rope And I'm Taking The Fall"

[skyjumpenfool 2]

ryoder

***There are only 1 of 3 outcomes from this;

1 -- He does it and lives and is a "hero."

2 -- He does it and does not live and everyone says, "well duh!"

3 -- He does what so many people have done before him and talks about it for years, gets money for appearances, continues to talk about it, makes more appearances and money, talks about it some more, the day of the event gets cancelled due to weather, he makes more appearances and money -- NEVER ACTUALLY MAKES THE JUMP.

You forgot:

4 -- Some English bloke with a pile of cardboard boxes beats him to it.

And......
5. He does it and (regardless of outcome) some poor schlepp pilot losses his license.

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"Son, only two things fall from the sky."

[JohnMitchell 14]

skyjumpenfool

5. He does it and (regardless of outcome) some poor schlepp pilot losses his license.

Right you are. It is a violation of Part 105. However, I'm sure Luke will get whatever waiver is needed for that. He's a pretty good planner. I'd like to be there when he does this jump.

[nickfrey 0]

JohnMitchell

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5. He does it and (regardless of outcome) some poor schlepp pilot losses his license.

Right you are. It is a violation of Part 105. However, I'm sure Luke will get whatever waiver is needed for that. He's a pretty good planner. I'd like to be there when he does this jump.
Or the jump wont be in good 'ol US of A...

[Andy9o8 0]

jumpwally

i agree but add why ? So what if it works,,really,,then what ?

Then the next thing that ain't been did yet.

[wolfriverjoe 1,340]

JohnMitchell

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5. He does it and (regardless of outcome) some poor schlepp pilot losses his license.

Right you are. It is a violation of Part 105. However, I'm sure Luke will get whatever waiver is needed for that. He's a pretty good planner. I'd like to be there when he does this jump.
Would it be?

Honest question.

If he goes out the door with no rig at all, then technically it isn't a "parachute jump." There's no parachute involved.

Alternatively, he could go out the door with a pilot rig (emergency bail out rig) because he isn't intending to use it.

91.15 (dropping objects) would still apply, but I would think that the time, effort and expense involved in constructing the thing he's landing on would demonstrate "reasonable care."

"There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy

"~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo

[Amazon 7]

nickfrey

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5. He does it and (regardless of outcome) some poor schlepp pilot losses his license.

Right you are. It is a violation of Part 105. However, I'm sure Luke will get whatever waiver is needed for that. He's a pretty good planner. I'd like to be there when he does this jump.
Or the jump wont be in good 'ol US of A...

I think they will be able to figure it out since almost everyone in that family seems to be a pilot or a skydiver

[Niki1 1]

ryoder

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You forgot:

4 -- Some English bloke with a pile of cardboard boxes beats him to it.

But that guy had a rig on, didn't he?

Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossilbe before they were done.
Louis D Brandeis

Where are we going and why are we in this basket?

[BillyVance 34]

Niki1

***
You forgot:

4 -- Some English bloke with a pile of cardboard boxes beats him to it.

But that guy had a rig on, didn't he?

Nope

"Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban

[ryoder 1,381]

BillyVance

******
You forgot:

4 -- Some English bloke with a pile of cardboard boxes beats him to it.

But that guy had a rig on, didn't he?

Nope

That looks like a parachute to me: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEP8juRSBRo&t=1m24s

"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

[keithbar 1]

Garry did a great job. And I was impressed. But I was just as impressed by the job the cameraman did . he got the shot and was dirty low when he pulled.

i have on occasion been accused of pulling low . My response. Naw I wasn't low I'm just such a big guy I look closer than I really am .

[pchapman 261]

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4 -- Some English bloke with a pile of cardboard boxes beats him to it.

But that guy had a rig on, didn't he?

Garry Connery did get some sort of waiver to use a one parachute system though, and wore that BASE rig. I don't know the Brit system, whether he had to go to the CAA (their FAA) or the BPA or both.

Red Bull never had any luck in the US asking for airshow demo waivers from the USPA, for low level openings operations, did they?
(It was unclear to me from DZ.com threads, whether the FAA really did want to see the USPAs reaction first or didn't want to be the one to refuse first, and sent the jumpers to the USPA. I certainly don't know the facts on that one.)

[rifleman 61]

They also had to get a waiver for this jump using a base rig from a helicopter (Garry again). One of the seminars at the BPA expo 2014 discussed in detail the process and planning that went into this stunt.

https://youtu.be/1AS-dCdYZbo

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[LukeAikins 0]

number 3. is awesome I am not like that but that is awesome.