Why the U.S. Should Never Host Another Olympics

[Phil1111 908]

http://www.outsideonline.com/2031911/why-nobody-wants-host-olympics-america-least-all

Agree. The corruption of the IOC. The IOC decision to pass responsibility on the Russian state sponsored drugging scandal.
The false, concocted studies of all the great and lasting befits of every dollar spent on facilities.

Besides. There is nothing like a free trip for someone to compete somewhere else. Who wants to say home when you can go somewhere exotic!

[DanG 1]

Mad props to the Paralympics, who banned the whole Russian team. No pussy footing around.

- Dan G

[Phil1111 908]

DanG

Mad props to the Paralympics, who banned the whole Russian team. No pussy footing around.

Agree. I feel bad for honest, hard training, Russians who are caught up in this. Sorry for Russian Paralympics competitors who are clean. Its all grossly unfair.

But all Russians should have been banned. Doping cheats the entire sport. The IOC and cycling federations are corrupt.

[piisfish 135]

And all American athletes are clean

scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM

[normiss 620]

I don't believe the US team has built a DNA test sample smuggling tube into a secret room for a swap to clean DNA...so there's that at least.

[gowlerk 1,903]

piisfish

And all American athletes are clean

What does that have to do with a State sanctioned coordinated program with involvement at the highest levels in support and cover? American athletes are about as clean as Swiss athletes.

Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free.

[BillyVance 34]

piisfish

And all American athletes are clean

By and large, they are. If any of them are busted for doping or taking banned drugs, the case is usually they did it on their own. Not the case with the Russians.

"Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban

[Remster 24]

You're fooling yourself you think athletes (regardless of nationality) are doing any doping "on their own". It may not be state sanctioned, but doping in today's systems of tests requires a team of accomplices (including coaches, doctors, managers, trainers, etc...).

Remster

[Phil1111 908]

Remster

You're fooling yourself you think athletes (regardless of nationality) are doing any doping "on their own". It may not be state sanctioned, but doping in today's systems of tests requires a team of accomplices (including coaches, doctors, managers, trainers, etc...).

Agree. Doping today is very sophisticated. Just as the tests to detect it.

[piisfish 135]

Phil1111

***You're fooling yourself you think athletes (regardless of nationality) are doing any doping "on their own". It may not be state sanctioned, but doping in today's systems of tests requires a team of accomplices (including coaches, doctors, managers, trainers, etc...).

Agree. Doping today is very sophisticated. Just as the tests to detect it.doping is one step ahead. Always.

scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM

[gowlerk 1,903]

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doping is one step ahead. Always.

True. But now they do retests years later when the technology catches up. Cheaters never prosper.

Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free.

[SkyDekker 1,121]

DanG

Mad props to the Paralympics, who banned the whole Russian team. No pussy footing around.

True, though the Russians really could care less about the Paralympics, so it really doesn't accomplish much.

[grue 1]

Nobody should ever host another olympics, until the olympics stop being a waste of taxpayer money.

cavete terrae.

[Squeak 17]

gowlerk

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doping is one step ahead. Always.

True. But now they do retests years later when the technology catches up. Cheaters never prosper.

Lance Armstrong is not broke

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[jakee 1,254]

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You're fooling yourself you think athletes (regardless of nationality) are doing any doping "on their own". It may not be state sanctioned, but doping in today's systems of tests requires a team of accomplices (including coaches, doctors, managers, trainers, etc...).

Not neccessarily. I'm sure it usually does involve a fair bit of that - but the drugs themselves are incredibly easy to come by, most drugs currently being abused have extremely short 'glow times' (hence why they're still being used) and there's a lot of freely available information about microdosing, direct muscle injection, and all the other ways that can be used to beat the tests and the biopassports.

It's not that difficult for an athlete to put together his or her own doping programme without the help of anyone else inside the official system.

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[ryoder 1,381]

Remster

You're fooling yourself you think athletes (regardless of nationality) are doing any doping "on their own". It may not be state sanctioned, but doping in today's systems of tests requires a team of accomplices (including coaches, doctors, managers, trainers, etc...).

Everything I've read about cycling indicates that is how it was done...right up until the Festina Affair. At that point the team management adopted the "Sergeant Schultz" approach: "I see nothing!"

i.e. team management wants to know nothing about it, so they cannot be pulled into a scandal.

"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

[Phil1111 908]

gowlerk

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doping is one step ahead. Always.

True. But now they do retests years later when the technology catches up. Cheaters never prosper.

Depends on the country.

"RIO DE JANEIRO — Late in 1983, months before they announced a boycott of the Los Angeles Olympics, sports officials of the Soviet Union sent detailed instructions to the head of the nation’s track and field team.

Oral steroid tablets were not enough, they said, to ensure dominance at the Games. The team should also inject its top athletes with three other kinds of anabolic steroids.

Providing precise measurements and timetables for the doping regimens, the officials said they had a sufficient supply of the banned substances on hand at the Research Institute of Physical Culture and Sports in Moscow, a division of the government’s sports committee.

The potent drugs were critical to keeping up with the competition, they wrote in the instructions.

The document — obtained by The New York Times from a former chief medical doctor for Soviet track and field — was signed by Dr. Sergei Portugalov, a Soviet sports doctor who went on to capitalize on a growing interest in new methods of doping....
“We will have the official recommendation and conclusion no later than Dec. 15, 1983,” it continued, suggesting that national sports officials and antidoping authorities were colluding to cover up doping."
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/14/sports/olympics/soviet-doping-plan-russia-rio-games.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=photo-spot-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news