Matt123 0 #1 December 9, 2006 Quick question, due to the majority of my jumps being slider-up, I've not used my slider-down for six months, just wondered what you thought, should i repack? I ask cos reserves are done regularly and i was thinking maybe i should apply that to my BASE rig...? Thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bps 0 #2 December 9, 2006 As long as you are comfortable with the pack job that is in there, it is fine. (this is also assuming that the system was dry when you packed it and it has been stored in a controlled environment) Bryan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Calvin19 0 #3 December 9, 2006 yeah, like bps said. repack your PC though, i dont know how much it matters, but i have heard that it helps. i guess i also heard on dropzone.com that symmetry doesnt matter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ms.sofaking 0 #4 December 9, 2006 I have a somewhat similar question.I have 2 Base rigs that will probably sit for a year. Obviously they will need a repack.But should I store them for this long packed or not?I've heard you should hang a canopy for lengthy periods."I'm not sure how it's going to turn out, except I'll die in the end, she said. So what could really go wrong? -----Brian Andreas Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NickDG 23 #5 December 9, 2006 Don't hang them (not very practical anyway) just separate the harness and do a loose rigger roll and put them into heavy duty plastic bags. Store in the driest darkest spot you have. Good for twenty years . . . NickD BASE 194 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Calvin19 0 #6 December 9, 2006 nick, is it really good for 20 years? i thought that nylon degrades over time no matter how it is stored. i dono though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ms.sofaking 0 #7 December 10, 2006 Nick, maybe I should clarify.You're talking to a beginner skydiver.No where ready for BASE quite yet. I'm not sure what loose rigger roll is."I'm not sure how it's going to turn out, except I'll die in the end, she said. So what could really go wrong? -----Brian Andreas Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NickDG 23 #8 December 10, 2006 The problem is canopies will be so much better in twenty years, you'll scare people with your 2006 FLiK, or whatever . . . NickD BASE 194 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ms.sofaking 0 #9 December 10, 2006 Yeah, but I'm realistically only talking roughly 1 year. I hope in 20 years any gear I have now would be completely worn out."I'm not sure how it's going to turn out, except I'll die in the end, she said. So what could really go wrong? -----Brian Andreas Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Faber 0 #10 December 10, 2006 in doubt just repack it,i mean how long does it take? If you feel ok about it go jump it,packed corectly you should be ok.. Stay safe Stefan Faber Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wwarped 0 #11 December 10, 2006 Quotein doubt just repack it,i mean how long does it take? what he said... I think more energy has already been spent discussing this than would be required to repack it. and I doubt reading opnions on the net will deliver the same warm and fuzzy feeling as actually repacking the rig. DON'T PANIC The lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss. sloppy habits -> sloppy jumps -> injury or worse Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matt123 0 #12 December 10, 2006 Thanks ppl, a friend got back to me and told me he had used a 7 month old stale rig with no problems, which reassured me. As for the PC, i never leave that stowed anyway as to not stretch the pocket, just stow it prior to jumping... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NSEMN8R 0 #13 December 11, 2006 Poynter's Parachute Manual volume 1 talks a little about this. Here is a graph from 9.3.1.3 My scanner sucks so it's hard to read. The x-axis shows age in days from 0 to 600. The y-axis shows opening time in seconds from 0-7. The 3 graphs are high, mean & low. Their conclusion was that after 30 days, packed time has little effect on opening speed. This was about rounds though. Is there any reason to think packed time would have more effect on squares? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vid666 0 #14 December 11, 2006 Quote This was about rounds though. Is there any reason to think packed time would have more effect on squares? Perhaps the difference between lopo and F111 fabric can have effect here. Also one may have ZP top skin or foreskin which can weigh in as well. But wwarped said it best - nothing to debate here, if you are unsure - just repack. doesn't take long anyways. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ade 0 #15 December 11, 2006 QuoteQuick question, due to the majority of my jumps being slider-up, I've not used my slider-down for six months Is that because you have burnt all the s/d objects. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites crwper 7 #16 December 11, 2006 Another thought on skydiving reserve times... The time between repacks is based on a couple of factors, IIRC. One is historical: silk has a tendency to deteriorate easily, so it was important to inspect the reserve often. With newer materials, for example, Canada moved to a 180-day repack cycle. Another factor is wear and tear. If someone spills a Coke on their reserve, but is dense enough not to realize this might be a problem, it's best that a rigger see it within a reasonably short period of time. Opening times are not really an issue. So, if my rig was stored in a cool, dry place I wouldn't have a problem jumping it a year later. The only questions left on my mind would be, did I pack it slider up or slider down? Brakes deep or shallow? When I'm standing at the exit point, I like to be able to remember specific points of the last packjob. With a year between, I'm not sure I would remember what I want. Michael Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Mac 1 #17 December 11, 2006 QuoteQuick question, due to the majority of my jumps being slider-up, I've not used my slider-down for six months, just wondered what you thought, should i repack? I ask cos reserves are done regularly and i was thinking maybe i should apply that to my BASE rig...? Thanks If you need to ask then you need to repack.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites 460 0 #18 December 11, 2006 I stored my parachute in my closet outside my home in a plastic crate. A rat actually ate a hole through the dry wall, somehow got into the crate, and died. It putrified and became acidic, eating a 6 inch hole all the way through the canopy. A real bummer - I only had 4 jumps on the nearly new canopy.Looks like a death sandwich without the bread - Steve Deadman Morrell, BASE 174 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites freakydiver 0 #19 December 11, 2006 If you have to ask - repack it. -- (N.DG) "If all else fails – at least try and look under control." -- Share this post Link to post Share on other sites VictorSuvorov 0 #20 December 11, 2006 QuoteI have a somewhat similar question.I have 2 Base rigs that will probably sit for a year. Obviously they will need a repack.But should I store them for this long packed or not?I've heard you should hang a canopy for lengthy periods. sit for a year? send them over. i will take a good care of your rigs for you. will keep the canopies nice and aired. i will also make sure the systems work before i sent them back. let me know Share this post Link to post Share on other sites leroydb 0 #21 December 11, 2006 I would hope you think you life is worth the time it takes you to repack. Gear fear would sure suck...Leroy ..I knew I was an unwanted baby when I saw my bath toys were a toaster and a radio... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Ms.sofaking 0 #22 December 12, 2006 I was told to let them sit in a plastic container unpacked in a climate controlled place.With the PC out of the BOC. I don't want to send them anywhere.Thanks.Sorry I kinda redirected the orginal thread.I should have posted under long term storage."I'm not sure how it's going to turn out, except I'll die in the end, she said. So what could really go wrong? -----Brian Andreas Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Matt123 0 #23 December 12, 2006 QuoteIs that because you have burnt all the s/d objects. *YAWN* Is this you? http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/mattrob123/Ethug-1.jpg Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Ade 0 #24 December 12, 2006 QuoteQuoteIs that because you have burnt all the s/d objects. *YAWN* Is this you? http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/mattrob123/Ethug-1.jpg Yes! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites 0
crwper 7 #16 December 11, 2006 Another thought on skydiving reserve times... The time between repacks is based on a couple of factors, IIRC. One is historical: silk has a tendency to deteriorate easily, so it was important to inspect the reserve often. With newer materials, for example, Canada moved to a 180-day repack cycle. Another factor is wear and tear. If someone spills a Coke on their reserve, but is dense enough not to realize this might be a problem, it's best that a rigger see it within a reasonably short period of time. Opening times are not really an issue. So, if my rig was stored in a cool, dry place I wouldn't have a problem jumping it a year later. The only questions left on my mind would be, did I pack it slider up or slider down? Brakes deep or shallow? When I'm standing at the exit point, I like to be able to remember specific points of the last packjob. With a year between, I'm not sure I would remember what I want. Michael Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mac 1 #17 December 11, 2006 QuoteQuick question, due to the majority of my jumps being slider-up, I've not used my slider-down for six months, just wondered what you thought, should i repack? I ask cos reserves are done regularly and i was thinking maybe i should apply that to my BASE rig...? Thanks If you need to ask then you need to repack.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
460 0 #18 December 11, 2006 I stored my parachute in my closet outside my home in a plastic crate. A rat actually ate a hole through the dry wall, somehow got into the crate, and died. It putrified and became acidic, eating a 6 inch hole all the way through the canopy. A real bummer - I only had 4 jumps on the nearly new canopy.Looks like a death sandwich without the bread - Steve Deadman Morrell, BASE 174 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freakydiver 0 #19 December 11, 2006 If you have to ask - repack it. -- (N.DG) "If all else fails – at least try and look under control." -- Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VictorSuvorov 0 #20 December 11, 2006 QuoteI have a somewhat similar question.I have 2 Base rigs that will probably sit for a year. Obviously they will need a repack.But should I store them for this long packed or not?I've heard you should hang a canopy for lengthy periods. sit for a year? send them over. i will take a good care of your rigs for you. will keep the canopies nice and aired. i will also make sure the systems work before i sent them back. let me know Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leroydb 0 #21 December 11, 2006 I would hope you think you life is worth the time it takes you to repack. Gear fear would sure suck...Leroy ..I knew I was an unwanted baby when I saw my bath toys were a toaster and a radio... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ms.sofaking 0 #22 December 12, 2006 I was told to let them sit in a plastic container unpacked in a climate controlled place.With the PC out of the BOC. I don't want to send them anywhere.Thanks.Sorry I kinda redirected the orginal thread.I should have posted under long term storage."I'm not sure how it's going to turn out, except I'll die in the end, she said. So what could really go wrong? -----Brian Andreas Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matt123 0 #23 December 12, 2006 QuoteIs that because you have burnt all the s/d objects. *YAWN* Is this you? http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/mattrob123/Ethug-1.jpg Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ade 0 #24 December 12, 2006 QuoteQuoteIs that because you have burnt all the s/d objects. *YAWN* Is this you? http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/mattrob123/Ethug-1.jpg Yes! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
