AggieDave 6 #1 July 6, 2005 I couldn't make this stuff up if I tried. Thought you object types would enjoy reading about this: http://www.ktnv.com/news/jul05/338593.asp ***The Canyon Skywalk By Glen Meek Contact 13 Posted: July 4, 2005 It is one of the great natural wonders of the world -- and it will soon to be joined by an engineering marvel. A fantastic glass bridge arcing 60-feet out over the ***** canyon -- giving visitors an unobstructed view 4000-feet straight down. Sheri Yellowhawk, tribal executive says "That's gonna be a scary view. It's gonna be exciting. It's gonna be a once in a lifetime view. It may be scarey indeed having nothing more than sheets of glass separating you from eternity. But the bridge has been engineered to withstand 100-mile per hour winds, magnitude 8 earthquakes -- and hold the weight of 71-jumbo jetliners. The glass bridge -- officially called the canyon skywalk -- been under construction for months here on the west rim of the ***** canyon. It's being built on Hualapai tribal lands -- and the tribe hopes it will become one of the biggest attractions in the southwest. The project is expected to be completed by the end of this year and when it's up and running, the hualapai expect as many as 3-million people a year will come here -- and take a walk out over the edge. The idea for the skywalk came from las vegas tour operator David Jin, and its It has taken nearly a decade to turn his dream into a reality. But not everyone was sold on the idea at first. There were elders -- and others -- concerned about any construction on pristine native lands. Tribal Executive Sheri Yellowhawk says "We had the area blessed. We had the elders come out and they talked about it and they said We would like to keep our land the way it is, but we have to look at the future of our kids, to have something that's economiocally feasable for their future The financial future of the Hualapai is tied to tourism. They are not a gaming tribe. But they are betting that -- when it comes to the skywalk -- if they build it -- you will come--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zennie 0 #3 July 6, 2005 Well, technically, glass "S". But we'll let it slide. "Uhhhhh... I don't think the Ranger is gonna like this Yogi...." - Z "Always be yourself... unless you suck." - Joss Whedon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
base587 0 #4 July 6, 2005 Hualapai BASE GAMES 2006! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hookitt 0 #5 July 6, 2005 I have some gear I'm willing to lose.My grammar sometimes resembles that of magnetic refrigerator poetry... Ghetto Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sum1sneaky 0 #6 July 6, 2005 Quoteif they build it -- you will come ...they certainly have one thing right! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TVPB 0 #7 July 6, 2005 Oops. Tom????? Sorry! Stay Safe - Have Fun - Good Luck The above could be crap, thought provoking, useful, or . . But not personal. You decide. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Erroll 49 #8 July 6, 2005 Quote They are not a gaming tribe. But they are betting that -- when it comes to the skywalk -- if they build it -- you will come Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr2mk1g 10 #9 July 6, 2005 If this thing's on tribal lands... is the tribe able to ensure that BASE is entirely legal from their bridge in the same way that some tribes have made gambling legal? I mean... so long as they give permission right... and there's no one arround like the NPS... and if they're after tourism just show them Bridge Day stats... you could have yourself a nice place to start your bargaining for a cool legal S. Would be really cool to be able to look down through the glass at the jumpers below. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #10 July 6, 2005 QuoteQuote Well, technically, glass "S". But we'll let it slide. Whoa, no shit right? Man, I guess my brain was floating away in Shiner land last night. Oh well, the point was made, right?--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites The111 0 #11 July 6, 2005 Looking at the picture somebody posted... is that really a "span"? It seems like more of an overhanging platform to me...www.WingsuitPhotos.com Share this post Link to post Share on other sites TomAiello 25 #12 July 6, 2005 QuoteIf this thing's on tribal lands... is the tribe able to ensure that BASE is entirely legal from their bridge in the same way that some tribes have made gambling legal? Not a chance. The landing area is what counts for aerial delivery.-- Tom Aiello [email protected] SnakeRiverBASE.com Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Zennie 0 #13 July 6, 2005 QuoteLooking at the picture somebody posted... is that really a "span"? It seems like more of an overhanging platform to me... I saw that this morning and wondered the same thing. I think personally I'd call it an "E" with a man-made overhang. - Z "Always be yourself... unless you suck." - Joss Whedon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites KevinMcGuire 0 #14 July 6, 2005 Not true. Not all of the canyon floor or rim is governed by the NPS. In fact, there is a great deal of canyon floor and rim that is under the control of the the Navajo Nation and as such there may be a possibility of organizing something along the lines of a bridge day sort of event. It's been done in the past. Of course that would take a lot. The Navajo like to keep there sacred sights sacred. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Zennie 0 #15 July 6, 2005 QuoteThe landing area is what counts for aerial delivery. True, but if the landing area is also on tribal land isn't there an exemption if you have an tribal member sponsoring you? - Z "Always be yourself... unless you suck." - Joss Whedon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites KevinMcGuire 0 #16 July 6, 2005 Short answer, Yes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites TomAiello 25 #17 July 6, 2005 Sorry, I wasn't trying to comment on that particular site. Just saying that it doesn't matter if the entire structure is on private land. The landing area is going to have to be private (or permitted of some kind).-- Tom Aiello [email protected] SnakeRiverBASE.com Share this post Link to post Share on other sites 460 0 #18 July 6, 2005 There is a real chance to get this going. There is some history here. Canyon de C***** was legal with the Navajo nation until two old time jumpers (BASE 37 & BASE 124) ruined legal access by 1) filming a commercial without permission 2) using a helicopter in conflict with agreements with the Navajos 3) using a helicopter in a rescue This was a long time ago and the time is probably right for a respectful diplomatic approach to these Native Americans.Looks like a death sandwich without the bread - Steve Deadman Morrell, BASE 174 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites KevinMcGuire 0 #19 July 6, 2005 No problem Tom I wasn't trying to start a fight. One avenue that might help is if we can first find some one of Navajo blood who is sympathetic to our cause. I can think of one. She works for a popular BASE manufacture. I have spoken with her about it before but we have yet to make it happen. Her work duties keep her pretty busy. Anybody know anyone else with Navajo blood who jumps? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites nicknitro71 0 #20 July 6, 2005 Ray looks Indian although he's not! He could pick up some Navajo and BS his way...Memento Audere Semper 903 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites NickDG 23 #21 July 6, 2005 Jumps at this place were had with permission, and permission was gained by smuggling cases of beer in for tribe members. We felt like bootleggers there for a while. Native Americans are much more sophisticated now but one thing that will always be in our favor is, like us, they are always ready too stick it to the "Man." If they build a casino at this new structure they'll still need more of a draw to get people to travel there and that could be us. Hops & Slots . . . ! NickD BASE 194 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites KevinMcGuire 0 #22 July 6, 2005 It is doubt full that the Navajo will ever build a casino on their land. They realize that their land is far to remote for most to travel to and so the clientele would be mostly Navajo. Their feeling is that it would be wrong to provide yet another source of addiction to the tribe members. The tribe has repeatedly voted against casinos in the past for this very reason Share this post Link to post Share on other sites FIREFLYR 0 #23 July 6, 2005 QuoteI have some gear I'm willing to lose. I have some of Tim's gear I'm willing to lose too!!! ~J"One flew East,and one flew West..............one flew over the cuckoo's nest" "There's absolutely no excuse for the way I'm about to act" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites NickDG 23 #24 July 6, 2005 Hasn't it be proven that Native Americans have no more predilections for addiction than any other race of people? I think their original drinking problem came from seeing their culture disseminated, being shuffled onto reservations, having no meaningful work to do, and generally having no hope. Christ, I'd need a drink after that too . . . NickD BASE 194 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites TomAiello 25 #25 July 6, 2005 Remind me to tell you the story about the guide we hired when hiking at CdC...-- Tom Aiello [email protected] SnakeRiverBASE.com Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 Next Page 1 of 3 0
The111 0 #11 July 6, 2005 Looking at the picture somebody posted... is that really a "span"? It seems like more of an overhanging platform to me...www.WingsuitPhotos.com Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomAiello 25 #12 July 6, 2005 QuoteIf this thing's on tribal lands... is the tribe able to ensure that BASE is entirely legal from their bridge in the same way that some tribes have made gambling legal? Not a chance. The landing area is what counts for aerial delivery.-- Tom Aiello [email protected] SnakeRiverBASE.com Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zennie 0 #13 July 6, 2005 QuoteLooking at the picture somebody posted... is that really a "span"? It seems like more of an overhanging platform to me... I saw that this morning and wondered the same thing. I think personally I'd call it an "E" with a man-made overhang. - Z "Always be yourself... unless you suck." - Joss Whedon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KevinMcGuire 0 #14 July 6, 2005 Not true. Not all of the canyon floor or rim is governed by the NPS. In fact, there is a great deal of canyon floor and rim that is under the control of the the Navajo Nation and as such there may be a possibility of organizing something along the lines of a bridge day sort of event. It's been done in the past. Of course that would take a lot. The Navajo like to keep there sacred sights sacred. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zennie 0 #15 July 6, 2005 QuoteThe landing area is what counts for aerial delivery. True, but if the landing area is also on tribal land isn't there an exemption if you have an tribal member sponsoring you? - Z "Always be yourself... unless you suck." - Joss Whedon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomAiello 25 #17 July 6, 2005 Sorry, I wasn't trying to comment on that particular site. Just saying that it doesn't matter if the entire structure is on private land. The landing area is going to have to be private (or permitted of some kind).-- Tom Aiello [email protected] SnakeRiverBASE.com Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
460 0 #18 July 6, 2005 There is a real chance to get this going. There is some history here. Canyon de C***** was legal with the Navajo nation until two old time jumpers (BASE 37 & BASE 124) ruined legal access by 1) filming a commercial without permission 2) using a helicopter in conflict with agreements with the Navajos 3) using a helicopter in a rescue This was a long time ago and the time is probably right for a respectful diplomatic approach to these Native Americans.Looks like a death sandwich without the bread - Steve Deadman Morrell, BASE 174 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KevinMcGuire 0 #19 July 6, 2005 No problem Tom I wasn't trying to start a fight. One avenue that might help is if we can first find some one of Navajo blood who is sympathetic to our cause. I can think of one. She works for a popular BASE manufacture. I have spoken with her about it before but we have yet to make it happen. Her work duties keep her pretty busy. Anybody know anyone else with Navajo blood who jumps? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nicknitro71 0 #20 July 6, 2005 Ray looks Indian although he's not! He could pick up some Navajo and BS his way...Memento Audere Semper 903 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NickDG 23 #21 July 6, 2005 Jumps at this place were had with permission, and permission was gained by smuggling cases of beer in for tribe members. We felt like bootleggers there for a while. Native Americans are much more sophisticated now but one thing that will always be in our favor is, like us, they are always ready too stick it to the "Man." If they build a casino at this new structure they'll still need more of a draw to get people to travel there and that could be us. Hops & Slots . . . ! NickD BASE 194 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KevinMcGuire 0 #22 July 6, 2005 It is doubt full that the Navajo will ever build a casino on their land. They realize that their land is far to remote for most to travel to and so the clientele would be mostly Navajo. Their feeling is that it would be wrong to provide yet another source of addiction to the tribe members. The tribe has repeatedly voted against casinos in the past for this very reason Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FIREFLYR 0 #23 July 6, 2005 QuoteI have some gear I'm willing to lose. I have some of Tim's gear I'm willing to lose too!!! ~J"One flew East,and one flew West..............one flew over the cuckoo's nest" "There's absolutely no excuse for the way I'm about to act" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NickDG 23 #24 July 6, 2005 Hasn't it be proven that Native Americans have no more predilections for addiction than any other race of people? I think their original drinking problem came from seeing their culture disseminated, being shuffled onto reservations, having no meaningful work to do, and generally having no hope. Christ, I'd need a drink after that too . . . NickD BASE 194 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomAiello 25 #25 July 6, 2005 Remind me to tell you the story about the guide we hired when hiking at CdC...-- Tom Aiello [email protected] SnakeRiverBASE.com Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
