plaiskool64 0 #1 January 22, 2017 Hey gents, Very curious, Anybody here had a chance to fly both Freak and Strix? Any feedbacks and personnal feelings? Thanks you very much. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BryanCampau 0 #2 January 23, 2017 I've got around 50 jumps on a Freak and I have to say it was the largest let downs of all the suits i've purchased. I know i'm gonna catch shit for voicing that opinion but it's the truth. I love back flying but that thing was terrible on it's back. The tail flapped like crazy unless you were flying it maxed out. You basically couldn't play with the range of the suit if you wanted the tail to inflate. I emailed Squirrel with my concerns and they assured me nothing was wrong with the suit and that it was simply not being flown right. Basically just boasting that it requires a lot of skill to back fly that suit. It was quite annoying at the time but now it is laughable. It would appear the Freak 2 release was rushed in response to both Tony Suits and Phoenix Fly releasing their big acro suits that actually can back fly! And of course now they are owning up and saying they fixed the back inlet vents on the tail so it actually inflates instead of flaps. I switched to Phoenix Fly suits after owning 8 Squirrel suits and accumulating over 500 jumps on them. In my opinion their wings are extremely rigid and don't fit the style of flight I like. I enjoy the smoothness of transitions, carving, and just smooth flying overall. The smooth acro flight characteristics are in my opinion what Phoenix Fly does best. Every manufacturer has something they tend to do exceptionally well over the competition. I don't think any manufacturer out there is complete garbage. In this case - I do think Squirrel let their customers down with the Freak and their response to the complaints. My Strix should be here within a month. :) I can compare the two once I get some jumps on the Strix. But with the suit fitting the style Phoenix Fly is known for - I don't think I will be disappointed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoneCodFishing 23 #3 January 23, 2017 I hope you got some body armour at the ready! Publicly criticising something Squirrel makes has the same response from the Squirrel fanboys as it would saying something bad about Justin Bieber in front of a group of 12 year old girls If you are quick you may be able to get one of these priority dispatch http://www.dog-training-equipment-store.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=10&products_id=677 The Gods take care of your soul! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BryanCampau 0 #4 January 23, 2017 Haha! I know, I know....And I will undoubtedly get trolled hard for stating an honest opinion based on my experiences. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
plaiskool64 0 #5 January 23, 2017 Thanks! i know it's kind of sensitive with all this marketing shit pros and cons, i just want to have personnal feedbacks, even if they might be not applicable to me because everyone's taste is different Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bluhdow 31 #6 January 23, 2017 I had around 500 WS jumps all on PF suits (except for 2 jumps on an X-Bird) when I bought my Freak. The Freak was the first Squirrel suit I've ever flown and I cannot echo the sentiment above. I love mine. It's got more speed, power, and range than my Venom Power and flies with speed and power on its back marvelously. It's true that it wants to be maxed out on its back. It's not a Havok, but I don't think it's designed to be. If I'm going to join a group flock on my back with an array of different suits I'd grab my Havok. Almost any other situation and my Freak would be the suit of choice. Can't speak for the Stryx. Haven't flown it.Apex BASE #1816 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
birdynamnam 28 #7 January 23, 2017 BluhdowI had around 500 WS jumps all on PF suits (except It's true that it wants to be maxed out on its back. It's not a Havok, but I don't think it's designed to be. If I'm going to join a group flock on my back with an array of different suits I'd grab my Havok. Almost any other situation and my Freak would be the suit of choice. Can't speak for the Stryx. Haven't flown it. What Bluhdow said Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keithbar 1 #8 January 23, 2017 Have you jumped a funk? If so what do you think of it?i have on occasion been accused of pulling low . My response. Naw I wasn't low I'm just such a big guy I look closer than I really am . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johnmatrix 21 #9 January 24, 2017 That's quite funny. I imagine him performing all the depicted poses while typing his further responses. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
virgin-burner 1 #10 January 24, 2017 too bad you had that experience, too bad you didnt go with a trusted manufacturer that doesnt put out a "model-2" less than a year from initial release; on every model! doesnt take a genius to figure out something's wrong! well, that or you just wait for a better copy!“Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heat 2 #11 January 24, 2017 A lot of people "trust" Squirrel gear out thereThank god every manufacturer keeps putting out new models and develop better gear! Doesn't take a genius to figure out we as users and customers are better of that way! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
virgin-burner 1 #12 January 24, 2017 as evidenced in this thread.. clearly you're wrong. if you do something right, right off the start, there's no need for a "model-2" a couple months later. that or you just rename it to something new, so your dumb customers dont realize they're being rammed in the ass with a squirrel AGAIN!“Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heat 2 #13 January 24, 2017 So far in this thread I count two happy fliers and one disappointed one But quick, email Robert and yell at him for putting out the Sukhoi2 soon! And while you're at it, write an angry email to Matt and Mike for making the Aura 3!! They have obviously been screwing us over with the two previous models, how dare they! Or you could go skydiving instead, I think you need it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fall0ut 3 #14 January 24, 2017 Not that I care.. but it's not always Squirrel who copies stuff, it also goes the other way around with the Strix being a "very very similar" platform as the Freak. Or think about the "innie-outie-zippers" or stiffened inlets. But I am sure this will not help for the fanboys to shut up about this "who copied from who" nonsense. Every car has four wheels and every wingsuit has three wings. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skow 6 #15 January 24, 2017 For fuck's sake, man, shut the fuck up already. Nobody want to hear you pussy-ass whining. Can we all agree that all wingsuits are copies or Birdman's design and go on with our lives?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
virgin-burner 1 #16 January 24, 2017 why dont you SHUT THE FUCK UP ALREADY and just keep scrolling?“Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BryanCampau 0 #17 January 24, 2017 Yes, I have more jumps on Funk1 than anything else. I also have around 50 on the Funk2. And now about 75 on the Havoc Carve. Squirrel is not even close to the Havoc Carve. The Havoc Carve is incredibly smooth and agile. The Funk's fly decent on both their belly and back but are clumsy in transitions and any kind of dynamic flight. It's because their wings are too rigid for acro. The funk 1 lacked forward speed. The funk 2 was an attempt to fix it. But what happens when you slow it down at all on its back? It looks just like a Freak with the tail flapping like crazy. Neither of them come close to the havoc carve in my opinion. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
virgin-burner 1 #18 January 24, 2017 carve is a super-fun and easy to fly wingsuit!“Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bluhdow 31 #19 January 24, 2017 I've said it before and I'll say it again. Literally every post Virgin-Burner has ever written has been bashing Squirrel, orally copulating PF, or both. Can we just ban him from the wingsuit forum? We already know exactly what he's going to say, in every thread, up until wingsuits go the way of skysurfing. In related news, when skysurfing comes back PF will obviously make the best boards and Squirrel will do nothing more than produce sh*tty Vietnamese copies. Just wanted to clear that up in advance.Apex BASE #1816 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OzzieDave 1 #20 January 24, 2017 Seconded! It's not that anyone has to say any brand is good or bad just that to participate in a forum you have to have a point otherwise you're the virtual equivalent of the crazy cat lady https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2Xg7QUXiDA Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fall0ut 3 #21 January 25, 2017 I also second that. Admins.. please ban Virgin-Burner from the wingsuit forum ! This guy has nothing to add but bashing and nonsense. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pobrause 6 #22 January 25, 2017 come on, let him bash what and whoever he wants, if we are all judged by the informational value of our posts and subsequently banned this forum would be empty in no time. Don't be buthurt clinton voters and let him have fun. Its actually quite entertaining to follow the discussions sprouting from his ranting posts Suck it up and endure, I bet he's just trolling anyway ^^------------------------------------------------------- To absent friends Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alygator 2 #23 January 25, 2017 I think VB is a squirrel's undercover agent... He try to bring discredit on true PF "fan boys" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
birdynamnam 28 #24 January 25, 2017 VB is 100% a troll Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johnmatrix 21 #25 January 26, 2017 I agree VB should stay. One rabid fanboi post here and there isn't really a problem. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
