splat123 0 #1 July 26, 2014 Hi, better start by saying I'm a complete 'puter retard' trying to download new beta update for flysight voice glide ratio. Have managed download zip file & flip 3.4.7 but keep getting error 43 ? I cycle the on off switch 3 times but cannot seem to update drivers to recognise flysight in usb. Windows 8 & moron operating, any ideas Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
birdynamnam 28 #2 July 26, 2014 PM Michael from Flysight and specify the Serial no on your Flysight. You also need a beta driver, and there are a few different depending on ... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dthames 0 #3 July 26, 2014 splat123 Hi, better start by saying I'm a complete 'puter retard'trying to download new beta update for flysight voice glide ratio. Have managed download zip file & flip 3.4.7 but keep getting error 43 ? I cycle the on off switch 3 times but cannot seem to update drivers to recognise flysight in usb. Windows 8 & moron operating, any ideas Not pretending I have a solution but just trying to understand. The error 43 comes from Flip when you try to use Flip to program the Flysight?Instructor quote, “What's weird is that you're older than my dad!” Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crwper 7 #4 July 28, 2014 Alas, Windows 8 doesn't work with the firmware update. As it turns out, there's a bug in the Atmel bootloader (a bit of code that ships with the processor and is responsible for firmware update) that incorrectly identifies the interface as "USB 20.0" instead of "USB 2.00". Windows XP, Windows 7 and Mac don't seem to notice, but Windows 8 won't recognized the device. We're working on a resolution, but it will certainly require that the FlySight be reprogrammed with a hardware programmer--something that can't be done in the field. In the meantime, if you can find a Windows XP/7 or Mac machine, you should be able to update without issues. Michael Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jon26 0 #5 August 20, 2014 Hi, Can't help you with software issues so sorry for hijacking. Just wondered where i can download the Beta? Cheers Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,827 #8 August 21, 2014 HellisPM Could you PM me too? (why is it secret?)... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hellis 0 #9 August 21, 2014 kallend (why is it secret?) Hey! Do you want to be in or out?! I don't know.. But I guess there is a reason why there is no compiled version of this beta software on the site. You would have to ask Michael about that. But I guess it's because he is not sure it works on all versions of hardware the Flysight has had. I see if I can send it to you too. At work now with my phone. EDIT: nope. I thought I could forward the message but it's not an option on the forum PM. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dthames 0 #10 August 21, 2014 kallend***PM Could you PM me too? (why is it secret?) Is this what you are looking for? http://flysight.ca/wiki/index.php?title=Firmware_upgrade It has talking firmware you can download.Instructor quote, “What's weird is that you're older than my dad!” Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lyosha 48 #11 August 21, 2014 Does Flysight have breakoff alerts? If not, could those be a possible future feature? ;) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
strife 0 #12 August 21, 2014 I think the beta is for the driver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yorick 0 #13 August 21, 2014 dthames******PM Could you PM me too? (why is it secret?) Is this what you are looking for? http://flysight.ca/wiki/index.php?title=Firmware_upgrade It has talking firmware you can download. I believe those are still the old beta's at the moment. Could someone PM me too? lyoshaDoes Flysight have breakoff alerts? If not, could those be a possible future feature? ;) In the latest beta I've seen, there are 'audible alarms', which you can set manually. ***note: the alarms are 'Above Sea Level', not necessarily 'Above Ground Level'.***"The 'perfect' parachute jump was thought to be one where the opening shock and touchdown were simultaneous" -Lyle Cameron, ~1965 --- Falling-With-Style.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dthames 0 #14 August 22, 2014 Yorick*********PM Could you PM me too? (why is it secret?) Is this what you are looking for? http://flysight.ca/wiki/index.php?title=Firmware_upgrade It has talking firmware you can download. I believe those are still the old beta's at the moment. Could someone PM me too? lyoshaDoes Flysight have breakoff alerts? If not, could those be a possible future feature? ;) In the latest beta I've seen, there are 'audible alarms', which you can set manually. ***note: the alarms are 'Above Sea Level', not necessarily 'Above Ground Level'.*** The posted 4 Mar 2014 "stable beta" had the Above Sea Level alarm.Instructor quote, “What's weird is that you're older than my dad!” Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hellis 0 #15 August 22, 2014 Keep in mind this is probably not a stable version as it is not on the page. It works fine on both of my FlySights, one beeing in the lower 400 serial, and one beeing in the lower 1500 (10 hz compatible). Michael sent me this file in mid june, and as I said it works on both of my FlySights. YMMV! ***Ah… I think the problem may be that you’re using the beta version from the wiki. Is that right? I’ve made some changes to the beta version to make it possible to log at 10 Hz while also playing audio, but wanted to make sure those changes were working reasonably well before updating the version on the wiki. So far, everything is looking pretty good. In the next couple of days I’m hoping to do a little more testing and then will be updating the version on the wiki. In the meantime, I’ve attached a copy of the latest working version. Note that the audio files have changed (the rate has been reduced, but you shouldn’t notice any significant change in quality), so you’ll need to copy over the new audio folder from the attachment as well. Michael ETA: I have not got the 'audible alarm' to work on either of my FlySights. Could be operator error though.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crwper 7 #16 August 25, 2014 Hi All-- Sorry I haven't been around. The beta version on the website hasn't been updated for a while because we've been working on a glitch in the original beta--it would occasionally produce a corrupt CSV file where the next line started before the previous one was done writing. I've attached the latest beta version here, which fixes that issue. There is one more issue I'm working on right now... If you're logging at 10 Hz, with this version you'll occasionally see missing data points. You shouldn't have any problems if you're logging at 5 Hz. I've been putting off updating the beta version on the wiki until I get that taken care of, but there seems to be a lot of interest here in an update of some sort, so I thought I'd upload what I've got. The procedure to update using this file is the same as usual: http://flysight.ca/wiki/index.php?title=Firmware_upgrade Be sure to copy the updated "audio" folder included in the zip file onto your FlySight. Otherwise, you might find the speech a little... odd sounding. A couple more points worth mentioning... There is a bug in the Atmel processor which makes it impossible to update the FlySight with a Windows 8 machine. The problem can, in principle, be fixed using a hardware programmer (something you would have to send your FlySight in for), but I haven't got that worked out yet. In the meantime, Windows 8 users will need to find a Windows XP/7 machine for the update. Mac users are fine. I'm hoping to have the last glitch taken care of in the next week or two, and then I'll update one more "beta" version to the wiki. I'll let you all know when it's there just in case you want to hold off a few more days. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crwper 7 #17 August 25, 2014 lyoshaDoes Flysight have breakoff alerts? If not, could those be a possible future feature? ;) The beta version does have elevation alarms, but I would be cautious about depending on them for break-off. There are a couple of issues I see at the moment: Because the FlySight doesn't know where the ground is, you'll need to update your alarms when you move from one DZ to another. When you forget to do this--because eventually you will--you won't hear the alarm as expected. If you lose GPS signal, run out of battery, or if the earphone falls out of your ear in freefall, then you may not hear an alarm. All of these things are less likely with something like an audible altimeter, which doesn't require a sensitive GPS signal for its measurements, has a long-lasting battery, and requires no earphone to be audible. Neither of these is an issue for non-critical alarms, but for these reasons the elevation alarm feature should not be used for anything where safety of life is a concern. Michael Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hellis 0 #18 August 25, 2014 Speaking of bugs.. When I'm using 5 hz mode I have noticed that the time sometimes rolls back. Don't know if this issue is only 5 hz or general. Time column can look lik: 10:00:05.20 10:00:05.40 10:00:04.00 10:00:04.20 Etc. As if the clock is running fast and it needs to correct itself during the logging. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crwper 7 #19 August 25, 2014 Odd... That may be related to the bug I mentioned before, though I'm surprised to hear it's happening at 5 Hz. Can you make sure you've got the latest beta posted above and confirm if the bug still occurs? Thanks! Michael Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hellis 0 #20 August 25, 2014 We have some "airplane" issues, and I have not been able to jump for a while. The bug was last known with the previous stable version of the FlySight software. Don't know if it still happens. It's not on every jump. But it has happened a few times for me. It has not happened yet to my new FlySight. But ave not used it much Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
splat123 0 #21 September 29, 2014 Had a another issue with my unit, which Michael at Flysight sorted & updated for glide ratio FOC. Great customer service ! Finally got to jump with it on Saturday & it works really well, sadly didn't get any better 2.0 on V4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unclecharlie95 3 #22 October 2, 2014 Can someone please post their config file to use the "speech mode" , I haven't managed to get it to work..BASEstore.it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
birdynamnam 28 #23 October 2, 2014 ; Firmware version 20111016 ; GPS settings Model: 6 ; Dynamic model ; 0 = Portable ; 2 = Stationary ; 3 = Pedestrian ; 4 = Automotive ; 5 = Sea ; 6 = Airborne with < 1 G acceleration ; 7 = Airborne with < 2 G acceleration ; 8 = Airborne with < 4 G acceleration Rate: 200 ; Measurement rate (ms) ; Tone settings Mode: 2 ; Measurement mode ; 0 = Horizontal speed ; 1 = Vertical speed ; 2 = Glide ratio ; 3 = Inverse glide ratio ; 4 = Total speed Min: 0 ; Lowest pitch value ; cm/s in Mode 0, 1, or 4 ; ratio * 100 in Mode 2 or 3 Max: 300 ; Highest pitch value ; cm/s in Mode 0, 1, or 4 ; ratio * 100 in Mode 2 or 3 Chirp: 0 ; Chirp when outside bounds ; 0 = No ; 1 = Yes Volume: 7 ; 0 (min) to 8 (max) ; Thresholds V_Thresh: 1000 ; Minimum vertical speed for tone (cm/s) H_Thresh: 0 ; Minimum horizontal speed for tone (cm/s) ; Miscellaneous Use_SAS: 1 ; Use skydiver's airspeed ; 0 = No ; 1 = Yes Sp_Mode: 1 ; Vertical speed. Sp_Units: 0 ; 1=mph 0=km/h Sp_Rate: 10 ; Speech rate (s) Sp_Dec: 0 ; Decimal places for speech Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
birdynamnam 28 #24 October 2, 2014 unclecharlie95Can someone please post their config file to use the "speech mode" , I haven't managed to get it to work.. you did install the beta firmware, right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unclecharlie95 3 #25 October 2, 2014 Got it working! :) Thank youBASEstore.it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
