kallend 1,822 #1 May 28, 2014 I thought this was a more appropriate place than the Incidents Forum to find out at what altitude "most" wingsuiters generally pull. Please restrict to your normal pull altitude, not extremes or when demoing a new suit or canopy. Also this is for a skydive, not WS BASE. Europeans and other enlightened folks, I'm sure you can handle the unit conversion from ft to m.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SoberJason 0 #2 May 28, 2014 I was wondering about this myself. Thanks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phoenixlpr 0 #3 May 28, 2014 I prefer to pull over 1460 Flemish ell. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lazarus_762 0 #4 May 28, 2014 whoops... maybe shouldnt have voted. n00b belly flyer, not a wing suiter - yet! Airtwardo:"There is a bit of difference between a rigger with a nipper and a guy with 138 jumps and a swiss army knife...usually!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phoenixlpr 0 #5 May 28, 2014 Or let me try other way: over 540 fathom. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thijs 0 #6 May 28, 2014 There was a similar thread here: http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=4631782;sb=post_latest_reply;so=ASC;forum_view=forum_view_collapsed;;page=unread#unread Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skwrl 56 #7 May 28, 2014 Lowest comfortable is 0.192 leagues, usually closer to 0.22 leagues (for those of you who don't like Imperial units, that's 716 Smoots).Skwrl Productions - Wingsuit Photography Northeast Bird School - Chief Logistics Guy and Video Dork Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,822 #8 May 28, 2014 SkwrlLowest comfortable is 0.192 leagues, usually closer to 0.22 leagues (for those of you who don't like Imperial units, that's 716 Smoots). Still awaiting cubits, angstroms, parsecs, light years, rods, poles, perches, chains, roods, ells, AUs, barleycorns, Planck Lengths, links...... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DBCOOPER 1 #9 May 28, 2014 1524000000 micronsReplying to: Re: Stall On Jump Run Emergency Procedure? by billvon If the plane is unrecoverable then exiting is a very very good idea. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sdctlc 0 #10 May 28, 2014 kallend ***Lowest comfortable is 0.192 leagues, usually closer to 0.22 leagues (for those of you who don't like Imperial units, that's 716 Smoots). Still awaiting cubits, angstroms, parsecs, light years, rods, poles, perches, chains, roods, ells, AUs, barleycorns, Planck Lengths, links... Convert to your hearts content!!! http://www.convert-me.com/en/convert/length/ 1 Find your unit. 2 Type your value next to it. 3 Touch "Convert Me" and get all conversions. Scott C. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The111 1 #11 May 28, 2014 7. (that's my answer to everything, there is a unit somewhere which makes it work)www.WingsuitPhotos.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aOwl 0 #12 May 28, 2014 you are missing verstas, don't forget the Russians! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarkM 0 #13 May 29, 2014 Wingsuiting probably had me pulling lower than I'd pull if I didn't do wingsuiting. Primary reasons where the slower fall rate made it seem like I had a lot more time, sometimes I'd be chasing canopies or clouds and need to go lower to clear or get to them, and wingsuiting also kept me in a more docile canopy which gave me a bit of complacency in regards to dealing with issues on it. A wingsuit jump going below 3k didn't really phase me all that much. I just tried to not make it into a habit. But the idea of a freefly jump down to 3k with a highly loaded elliptical? The idea would just seem crazy to me. In some ways the complacency was legit. Starting deployment with a 40mph fall rate under a lightly loaded square has it's benefits. But I'm sure there are many mals which just don't care about your fall rate or how lightly loaded you are and an extra 1k of altitude makes all the difference. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The111 1 #14 May 29, 2014 MarkMStarting deployment with a 40mph fall rate under a lightly loaded square has it's benefits. I know you know this, but just for clarification: it's the high forward speed (not the low verticsal speed) that makes your deployment happen in less vertical distance (leading to the illusion of lower pulls being acceptable). Low deployment speed in my experience makes deployments weirder and definitely not faster.www.WingsuitPhotos.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Butters 0 #15 May 30, 2014 kallend I thought this was a more appropriate place than the Incidents Forum to find out at what altitude "most" wingsuiters generally pull. Please restrict to your normal pull altitude, not extremes or when demoing a new suit or canopy. Also this is for a skydive, not WS BASE. Europeans and other enlightened folks, I'm sure you can handle the unit conversion from ft to m. This poll has already been done numerous times ... "That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pendragon 1 #16 June 1, 2014 That may be true, but what is considered acceptable does change (and therefore so should the poll). It is timely too. You may not know, but the British Parachute Association has just raised the minimum opening requirement by 500ft. So it is now 2,500ft by which one needs a fully open main here and not 2,000ft for all skydiving disciplines. For most modern canopies, this means deploying by a minimum height of 3,300-3,500ft anyway. Interestingly, given wingsuit flights are quite long - especially with modern suits - any "need" to deploy low should have been negated. I've only pulled on the low side during big-ways where collision avoidance was also a concern, but never below 2,500ft (or 4.7147652 × 10^37 Planck lengths for Prof. Kallend ). Richard -- BASE #1182 Muff #3573 PFI #52; UK WSI #13 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites