mccordia 73 #51 March 10, 2014 Yes, we just updated the PF website with information. Expect a full product page next week as well. You can check the info hereJC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maksimsf 0 #52 March 10, 2014 Pre-ordered, hopefully will get mine withing 2 month! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
saxboy 0 #53 March 10, 2014 http://www.phoenix-fly.com/news_events/news_phoenix_fly/phoenix-fly_2014_product_line_-_havok_carve Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ifell 0 #54 March 10, 2014 So how does the "pre-order" work exactly? Do you use the regular Havok form and say you want the Carve? In which case your order is put aside until PF starts taking orders for the new version? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mccordia 73 #55 March 10, 2014 We're releasing an order form for the Havok Carve (as mentioned in the news). But the suit isnt listed on the website yet, due to various size templates still being cut. But it will be listed among the other suits officially within a few days. The order form will be up later tonight.JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mccordia 73 #56 March 11, 2014 And we've also added the order form for the new Havok Carve! Its available as of now! Get it while its hotJC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
abean3 0 #57 March 12, 2014 Do you have any video you would share while we patiently wait on our orders to arrive? :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mccordia 73 #58 March 12, 2014 Ill be putting some more detailed video stuff up later, but most of my recent videos show the suit ripping around the skies. The improvements in agility make it even sharper in transitions and steel angles then it already was. Ill have an extra carve with me at Elsinore in 2 weeks for those who want to try!JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aOwl 0 #59 March 12, 2014 QuoteIll have an extra carve with me at Elsinore in 2 weeks for those who want to try! Something for normal, 176-cm tall people? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jamesndavis 0 #60 March 13, 2014 What is the current lead time for the carve, I really hope they are short Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mccordia 73 #61 April 7, 2014 jamesndavisWhat is the current lead time for the carve, I really hope they are short About 12 to 14 weeks at the moment. Several people with normal Havok's already on order have been receiving Havok Carves the last few weeks. And every order made since the announcement is also currently in the queue/pending. Here's a bit of video on the Carve from Elsinore last week! YouTubeJC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jamesndavis 0 #62 April 7, 2014 When I placed my order pf site said 8 weeks now it's up to 14 wow. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maksimsf 0 #63 April 7, 2014 jamesndavisWhen I placed my order pf site said 8 weeks now it's up to 14 wow. They got a huge amount of orders coming in due to updates in their line. I ordered a Havok couple month ago, and was warned by a dealer that their lead time will be longer, especially due to my not so standard build. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonno 0 #64 April 7, 2014 A couple of pics of the new Carve . Side by side with the original Havok. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mccordia 73 #65 April 7, 2014 jamesndavisWhen I placed my order pf site said 8 weeks now it's up to 14 wow. Yes...this is something that always happens when a new suit is announced. We had a tsunami of Carve orders come in, the moment the form went live. But the factory is ever expanding, and never laying anyone of in times of lower volume. The workers in the factory have been with Robi for a long, long time. Most of them from the Birdman days even. So all care and manpower is used to get the suits made asap.JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jamesndavis 0 #66 April 7, 2014 Seems almost everyone I have talked with that has ordered a PF suit has had the same issue. This is my first PF order so I guess I will see how it goes. So far I'm not too impressed with how PF operates. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mccordia 73 #67 April 7, 2014 Maybe you just need to find less depressed/negative friends... JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mccordia 73 #68 April 8, 2014 Hi James, Jokes aside, the lead time should roughly be what it was around the time you ordered. For someone ordering now, thats about 12 to 14 weeks. But you ordered a while ago, so should be around the 8 to 10 weeks quoted around that time (or whatever was listed, its usually pretty accurate). It being a new suit/templates, there may be a small deviation, but the lead times are usually pretty accurate. Pricing is still not listed, as the suit is still in pre-order, to see what time goes into labour. But it should roughly be the same as the pricing for the 'old' Havok listed on the website, with an added $75 to $100 most likely. There is a lot more sewing that goes into the newer model. As soon as there are a double dozen suits finishes/delivered to customers, we'll have an actual pricing, and the full suit page and details will go up on the website. Also note that, though people may expect their suits in 3 weeks, the volume of suits ordered varies througout the year. So we try to find a balance in terms of number of workers needed (so we never need to lay anyone of). And we're still nowhere near some of the rig and canopy manufacturers, who are quite used to 3 to sometimes 9 month lead times. And depending on how busy things get with orders, that can be a reality. For orders made now, the lead time is around 10-12 weeks. But the 12-14 is staying on the safe side, as sometimes additional steps in the chain (people working through un-official 'dealers' etc) can add a few days. Expect the first finalized Havok Carves to hit the street in a short while, and a price announcement roughly start of next week. We're not a big evil microsoft coperation, but just a small company working hard to create amazing flying products for your enjoyment with a lot of enthusiasm. Hope that positive spirit shines through.JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bluhdow 31 #69 April 8, 2014 Any new info on the Power? I'd also be curious to know the expected pricing on this vs. the old Venom. Thanks!Apex BASE #1816 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Elpnor 5 #70 May 9, 2014 I put my order in on Feb 20 for the Havok and it's been 11 weeks. Any idea if I'm likely to get it soon? I know they're very busy, and I'm not complaining, I'm just hoping I can put enough jumps on it to use it at the heliboogie. Love the company, but I wish they could return emails a bit better. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mccordia 73 #71 May 10, 2014 We're at 12-14 week lead time, so your order should be close to shipping. Shoot me an email with your full name at [email protected] and coming monday Ill do a checkup.JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mccordia 73 #72 May 10, 2014 Actually a small correction, suits for all normal size templates are only at a 4-6 week scedule for production right now. On the Havok Carve some of the bigger/odd sizes are taking a bit longer (like Elpnors) due to falling outside of normal templates (very tall, or bigger build) that havent been constructed yet. But all normal order placed now can expect shipping within 6 weeks.JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkymonkeyONE 3 #73 May 14, 2014 Is my template "normal" Jarno? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The111 1 #74 May 14, 2014 SkymonkeyONEIs my template "normal" Jarno? Nothing about you is normal Chuck.www.WingsuitPhotos.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Elpnor 5 #75 May 20, 2014 I feel normal. I imagine it might be tough to get a size 16 shoe for a foot pocket comparison in Slovenia. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
