uberchris 0 #1 March 12, 2013 so i have a brand spankin new phantom3 that ive only put about 10 jumps on...... yesterday during the flight and during gear checks it was zipped and rigged up properly, but im assuming that i forgot to really tighten the little velcro tab that holds the zipper in place, and at some point (probably under canopy), the zipper completely unzipped itself and opened up (im talking about the zipper where you attach your rig to your WS)...... it kind of freaked me out but it was non eventful.......... anyone had this problem? i hope my description made sense.gravity brings me down......... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fatso 0 #2 March 12, 2013 i heard of a few instances where the p3 zips have been substandard. ive seen the a few guys even replace the zip with key ring loops because the original zipper grip bends and breaks easily. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mccordia 73 #3 March 12, 2013 Hi chris, shoot me or edo an email at phoenix-fly and we'll make sure we fix the issue (without cost)JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Butters 0 #4 March 12, 2013 When you state "the zipper completely unzipped itself and opened up" do you mean the entire zipper or part of the zipper. It's not uncommon for part of the zipper to open up during opening when you transition to sitting in the saddle."That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aOwl 0 #5 March 12, 2013 I had a problem with my P2 last year which resembles your description: no issues during flight but would find that one of the shoulder zippers would open whilst under canopy. I assumed the weak zipper would open when crimped under canopy, whatever the problem was I sent it back to Robi and he replaced both zippers and put a velcro tab on them (my model predates this practice). Never again had any issues. O Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The111 1 #6 March 12, 2013 Somewhat on topic... I noticed on my G3 that the velcro tabs on the shoulder zips (not present on my previous PF suit) are at the "bottom end" of the zipper... i.e. the end where you first assemble the zipper when zipping it up. So they don't actually prevent the zippers from coming "slightly undone" somewhere over the course of plane ride, freefall, deployment, etc. Not that the slight unzip really bothers me that much... if anything it is probably a good thing to allow it to unzip a bit when stressed, rather than stress a seam somewhere. If harness fit is not perfect, this is kind of equivalent to "skipping two tabs" on an older style suit.www.WingsuitPhotos.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mccordia 73 #7 March 12, 2013 QuoteSo they don't actually prevent the zippers from coming "slightly undone" somewhere over the course of plane ride, freefall, deployment, etc. Thats by design. The zippers are intended to have the ability to slightly open up to allow the rig to ride up on deloyment or on sitting etc. If the zipper would be locked, and the rig would push against it jump after jump, the load the zipper will take over time can start to damage the suit or MLW itself. So its intended to 'give' a little if needed on the backside.JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The111 1 #8 March 12, 2013 Quote Thats by design. The zippers are intended to have the ability to slightly open up to allow the rig to ride up on deloyment or on sitting etc. If the zipper would be locked, and the rig would push against it jump after jump, the load the zipper will take over time can start to damage the suit or MLW itself. So its intended to 'give' a little if needed on the backside. That's the same conclusion I came to. Quote So its intended to 'give' a little if needed on the backside. Just like a pony? www.WingsuitPhotos.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites