piisfish 137 #151 January 23, 2013 I received a notification from Fedex because they couldn't deliver them (didn't find my home).. so they should be delivering tomorrow at the office scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,857 #152 January 23, 2013 QuoteI received a notification from Fedex because they couldn't deliver them (didn't find my home). Are you on the run AGAIN?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 137 #153 January 23, 2013 Quote Quote I received a notification from Fedex because they couldn't deliver them (didn't find my home). Are you on the run AGAIN? no I am settled for this month.. They just couldn't spot the entry of the mancave... scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Labrat 0 #154 January 23, 2013 Just got my Recon HUD today. It's sweet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,857 #155 January 23, 2013 QuoteJust got my Recon HUD today. It's sweet. Mine arrived too. They are HUGE.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ifell 0 #156 January 23, 2013 QuoteQuoteJust got my Recon HUD today. It's sweet. Mine arrived too. They are HUGE. Sure are, easily double the size of any ski goggles I ever had and I had a bunch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ifell 0 #157 January 23, 2013 QuoteYes you can zero altitude :) And the next generation will have sound too telling you glide as you fly on top of having HUD :) They just need to know there is a market to spend the money in development... Care to tell us how to zero the altitude Jeb? Cause I tried and tried and it just won't happen! Perhaps you got a "special" model or maybe we just got Jebbed? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shredex 0 #158 January 23, 2013 Quote... Fedex... No wonder why shipping took so long. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lurch 0 #159 January 23, 2013 Alright, could somebody put up some images of what you actually see with them on? I can't say I was all -that- interested, I learned to fly by feel not by gauges, and so far with reports of signal acquisition issues and the zeroing apparently hidden somewhere it sounds more like the Garmin Etrex I picked up a ways back- technically it can do the job but practically it did it poorly and was more hassle to use than it was worth. Damn Garmin ate batteries like popcorn and killed its batteries whether it was on or off, only way to make sure it worked next use was to pull the damn batteries out. If its just a simple fixed "digital watch" style LCD display I think I'll pass. Anyway I'd like to know what it does in some serious detail before I'll splash another 300$ on another gadget that turns out to be useless. If its all that and a bag of chips though, maybe I'd get one myself to fine tune for comp training. And, I'd REALLY like to see ability to set waypoints, and a little arrow pointing to the DZ... good for cloud surfs! If it can do THAT, I'd DEFINITELY want one. I've got lost a time or two up there... -BLive and learn... or die, and teach by example. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,857 #160 January 23, 2013 Quote Quote Yes you can zero altitude :) And the next generation will have sound too telling you glide as you fly on top of having HUD :) They just need to know there is a market to spend the money in development... Care to tell us how to zero the altitude Jeb? Cause I tried and tried and it just won't happen! Perhaps you got a "special" model or maybe we just got Jebbed? The altitude mine show is neither agl nor msl. It's about half way in between.And yes, I DO know the difference between feet and meters. It's wrong in both.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The111 1 #161 January 23, 2013 QuoteAnd yes, I DO know the difference between feet and meters. It's wrong in both. Maybe it's in feeters asl?www.WingsuitPhotos.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,857 #162 January 23, 2013 QuoteQuoteAnd yes, I DO know the difference between feet and meters. It's wrong in both. Maybe it's in feeters asl? Could well be. Or fortnights.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mccordia 74 #163 January 23, 2013 Explains the first ones popping up in Classifieds. Ill stick to my FlySight JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sky12345 0 #164 January 24, 2013 QuoteQuoteAnd yes, I DO know the difference between feet and meters. It's wrong in both. Maybe it's in feeters asl? it doesnt matter what the units r as long as it makes u look kool! and fly like jeb Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dsteed7221 0 #165 January 24, 2013 QuoteQuoteYes you can zero altitude :) And the next generation will have sound too telling you glide as you fly on top of having HUD :) They just need to know there is a market to spend the money in development... Care to tell us how to zero the altitude Jeb? Cause I tried and tried and it just won't happen! Perhaps you got a "special" model or maybe we just got Jebbed? Figured it out...The left and right buttons on the remote zero it out up and down. Only 3 feet at a time though. I had to cycle through 600 feet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ifell 0 #166 January 24, 2013 I tried tried the right and left buttons, maybe give it another go... Do you need to hold them down long? And yes flysight is the way to go, no way I am buying a G3 for these Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-Denys- 0 #167 January 24, 2013 Wait a second between clicks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skywombat 0 #168 January 24, 2013 Yeah, the fedex guy surprised me this morning :) Let's see... basically, this is going to be interesting and I can't wait to jump this thing. From a day of playing with it, some observations: - The thing likes to eat battery quite a bit, though with disciplined use only during flight, I could easily see this lasting for a day or two of jumping. - I did not see any issues with GPS lock times - The lens is on a pivot arm and it helps to adjust it for optimal viewing - Altitude can be adjusted in increments of 3 feet by pressing left/right - The display is a color LCD screen (not just a simple 7-segment screen as someone asked about above) - When you reach a maximum speed, the display pops up a window with your new personal best. This is nifty, but it covers up the altitude indicator, but as the manufacturer plainly says, you should not be using this as an altimeter anyway - The display shows speed, altitude, and glide ratio. The glide ratio indicator seems to change colors depending on how well/poorly you are flying. There also seems to be a vertical line indicator for speed - The goggles tend to limit the vertical field of view a bit, but I have not had a chance to jump yet so I don't know what the impact would be When connected to a computer, the device shows up as a USB storage device. Data is stored in various files in a funky binary format. The manufacturer’s website has a browser plugin that will interface with the USB storage device and overlay your data on a map. With a little bit of work it should be possible to decode the data format so that all the linux geeks out there don't feel left out. Perhaps when I get some time... See attached photos. Due to the fancy optics, it is very difficult to get a good photo of the display using a regular camera, but I tried as best I could. In reality it does look better than what is pictured here. Final thoughts: this thing seems pretty sweet. I can't wait to jump with it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
killis 0 #169 January 24, 2013 I added a bunch of pictures/screenshots on here. Someone's come up with a way to turn the funky GPS data into GPX files: http://www.jori.ws/recon_decode/, although I'm still sticking with my WBT-201 for the time being. Based on using these units for skiing over the last three seasons, battery life is around 4-5 hours with the screen turned on the entire time, and around 7-8 hours with the screen off most of the time. Since you'd have the screen off in the plane and exposure to the cold would be limited in skydiving, I can see this lasting at least a day or two. Edit: Typos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ifell 0 #170 January 24, 2013 Thats right I think the "return" button on main page lets you turn the screen off to save power Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skywombat 0 #171 January 24, 2013 Ah, cool- someone wrote a decoder. But it seems to be online-only, with no source or spec. Regardless, the .RIB files seem to follow a repetitive pattern of 20 bytes. Looking at my unit and with the help of the online converter, the data encoding seems to be as follows (big-endian): 4 bytes - latitude 4 bytes - longitude 2 bytes - speed, in increments of 0.1km/h 2 bytes - altitude 5 bytes - ??? 3 bytes - time (one byte for hours, minutes, and seconds). Latitude and longitude are encoded in a somewhat funky format. The first byte is the whole number of decimal degrees. The second byte is the whole number of minutes, with (I am guessing) bit 7 actually being used as a sign bit for the overall number. The third byte is in decimal minutes in increments of 0.01. The fourth byte is in decimal minutes in increments of 0.0001. So basically, convert all four bytes to decimal, clear bit 7 of byte 2 as needed, and "put them next to each other" and you should have a coordinate in the form of DD MM.MMMM. One data point seems to be recorded every second. In addition to this, there seems to be a general data header. I haven't decoded this, but at least 2 bytes of it seem to be the current month and day. Oh well. Keep in mind this is based on a single data point. I am sleepy. One more thing- the goggles seem to not interfere with my helmet (bonehead, open-face) but just barely. I hope the field of view is not too much of an issue. I like to pull off my goggles after opening, but this looks like it may be more difficult. One unfortunate consequence of having all that padded material at the bottom of your field of view is that HANDLES are harder to see now. Guess I'll just have to pull high and deal with it if I have to. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 137 #172 January 24, 2013 Quote Quote ... Fedex... No wonder why shipping took so long. oh yeah, I now understand... I had to have the shipment "rerouted" to be delivered at my office, which is 60 km from the "original" Fedex facility. They shipped it to another facility, 205km away, and from that place to the facility closest to my office, 256 km away... But it was delayed due to a late incoming flight scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dsteed7221 0 #173 January 24, 2013 The zeroed altitude reset on mine back to the 600ish feet it was showing from the factory after an all night charge. Anybody else experience this? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
killis 0 #174 January 24, 2013 The 5 bytes have the temperature data. I converted some of my MOD Live RIB files from a recent heli skiing trip to GPX -- the temperature was listed in a comment field next to each data point. On another note, I'm not sure how well the GPS lock holds in a Twin Otter; it was pretty good in a Bell 212, but not as good as the Wintec WBT-201. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
colossus 0 #175 January 24, 2013 I was reading on Recon's website that the alti and other things reset after 6 hours of non-use. This REALLY sucks for me as I will have to adjust for about 2000 ft each time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites