Fall0ut 3 #26 October 19, 2012 Sounds great.. but how accurate will it be compared to a flysight? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jeb 0 #27 October 19, 2012 They seem to give pretty much the same data when looking at them on the ground. Same glides and speeds. The difference is while flying you can actually see your glide and speed real time and make adjustments in flight. As you go steeper you can actually use the speedometer to maximize your forward speed and you can see how that affects your glide. Very interesting, I learned more in 10 jumps with the goggles about my flying then I did in 100 jumps without them... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phoenixlpr 0 #28 October 19, 2012 Quote Quote Quote Also the software shows 3D speed instead of ground speed Really convincing. BTW What is 3D speed? The magnitude of your velocity vector instead of the horizontal component. Non-technical: How fast you're moving through the air, irrespective of direction Getting a velocity vector for the almost reliable ground speed and the quite unreliable GPS altitude? That sounds really handy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmkellett 0 #29 October 19, 2012 ordered. they look awesome. ill be using them for newb's wishing to increase performance. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Butters 0 #30 October 19, 2012 Quote ordered. they look awesome. ill be using them for newb's wishing to increase performance. So we'll have new wingsuiters fixated on a screen instead of ... well, everything else. "That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 137 #31 October 19, 2012 I am trying to order mine, but I can't check out (and the security code fiekld cannot be filled) could you check that please ?scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,920 #32 October 19, 2012 Quote Quote Quote Quote Also the software shows 3D speed instead of ground speed Really convincing. BTW What is 3D speed? The magnitude of your velocity vector instead of the horizontal component. Non-technical: How fast you're moving through the air, irrespective of direction Getting a velocity vector for the almost reliable ground speed and the quite unreliable GPS altitude? That sounds really handy. My experience with several GPSs in my plane is that although the absolute altitude error is large, it doesn't change very fast so vertical speed errors over a short time frame are quite acceptable. The GPS derived VSI on my Garmin agrees pretty well with the pressure based VSI in the plane's panel.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Butters 0 #33 October 19, 2012 QuoteMy experience with several GPSs in my plane is that although the absolute altitude error is large, it doesn't change very fast so vertical speed errors over a short time frame are quite acceptable. The GPS derived VSI on my Garmin agrees pretty well with the pressure based VSI in the plane's panel. When writing the navigation software I also started writing performance software. What I learned is that you can read the location as often as you want but if the distance between your measurements doesn't exceed the margin of error by a certain amount then the performance feedback is suspect ..."That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 137 #34 October 19, 2012 just fly a couple of feet higher that what the googgles tell you and you will be finescissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phoenixlpr 0 #35 October 19, 2012 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Also the software shows 3D speed instead of ground speed Really convincing. BTW What is 3D speed? The magnitude of your velocity vector instead of the horizontal component. Non-technical: How fast you're moving through the air, irrespective of direction Getting a velocity vector for the almost reliable ground speed and the quite unreliable GPS altitude? That sounds really handy. My experience with several GPSs in my plane is that although the absolute altitude error is large, it doesn't change very fast so vertical speed errors over a short time frame are quite acceptable. The GPS derived VSI on my Garmin agrees pretty well with the pressure based VSI in the plane's panel. Without right sensors like barometric altimeter and Pitot tube that is not an instrument, but an expensive gadget. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,920 #36 October 19, 2012 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Also the software shows 3D speed instead of ground speed Really convincing. BTW What is 3D speed? The magnitude of your velocity vector instead of the horizontal component. Non-technical: How fast you're moving through the air, irrespective of direction Getting a velocity vector for the almost reliable ground speed and the quite unreliable GPS altitude? That sounds really handy. My experience with several GPSs in my plane is that although the absolute altitude error is large, it doesn't change very fast so vertical speed errors over a short time frame are quite acceptable. The GPS derived VSI on my Garmin agrees pretty well with the pressure based VSI in the plane's panel. Without right sensors like barometric altimeter and Pitot tube that is not an instrument, but an expensive gadget. Barometric altimeters have their own problems, as do barometric VSIs.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Linas120 0 #37 October 19, 2012 QuoteI am trying to order mine, but I can't check out (and the security code fiekld cannot be filled) could you check that please ? Same for me. And no response to the email, which I sent to Recon. I guess, it is up to them now to keep me as a customer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
clown 0 #38 October 19, 2012 QuoteYes you can zero altitude :) And the next generation will have sound too telling you glide as you fly on top of having HUD :) They just need to know there is a market to spend the money in development... Jeb you mentioned that next generation will have sound feet back. Will it be software update or we will have to buy second one? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
splat123 0 #39 October 19, 2012 QuoteQuoteYes you can zero altitude :) And the next generation will have sound too telling you glide as you fly on top of having HUD :) They just need to know there is a market to spend the money in development... Jeb you mentioned that next generation will have sound feet back. Will it be software update or we will have to buy second one? + 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrCat 0 #40 October 19, 2012 A nice additional feature would be being able to put way points in. That way my flysight could tell me how I'm flying and the HUD could tell me where to go.. Useful on slightly cloudy days when you find yourself over a cloud that wasn't there on exit...Jump more, post less. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
base698 12 #41 October 19, 2012 One of the greatest applications for this is visibility of all the canopies relative to you. Imagine having a 3D view of every other canopy in the sky at all times. No more collisions or swoopers running into you from above... Of course everyone would need to use it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
colossus 0 #42 October 19, 2012 Thinking about this more. How fast does the GPS lock in? Are there issues of when you are in the aircraft? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WickedWingsuits 0 #43 October 19, 2012 QuoteOne of the greatest applications for this is visibility of all the canopies relative to you. Imagine having a 3D view of every other canopy in the sky at all times. No more collisions or swoopers running into you from above... Of course everyone would need to use it. I bet there would still be plenty of collisions! Remember the booth laws.Summer Rental special, 5 weeks for the price of 4! That is $160 a month. Try before You Buy with Wicked Wingsuits - WingsuitRental.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
g-bomb 0 #44 October 20, 2012 my order is in. hope it is as good as we all want it to be. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumpsalot-2 3 #45 October 20, 2012 QuoteThe ski goggles do not work for wing-suit flying. It's also hardware not just software. We spend the last year working out all the issues...QuoteOne issue I have not seen addressed is focusing for different eyes. I can't read print up close without glasses......can the goggles' screen be focused to address this issue ? ThanksLife is short ... jump often. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites imsparticus 0 #46 October 20, 2012 Hi does it use barometric pressure for altitude and calculations, and also will they ship to australia for the preorder? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites dmkellett 0 #47 October 20, 2012 monovision : " wear a low plus contact lens in the eye infront of the HUD " it will be a bit freaky at distance, but you should cope ok. see an optometrist to get the right script. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites dmkellett 0 #48 October 20, 2012 my trainging regime is strict. Solo's and 2 ways with me using stuff like this. I have a 2 way UHF VOXX setup as well, so this should compliment the whole thing. like jeb said, learn in 10 what would have taken 100.... a great idea and about bloody time ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites alygator 2 #49 October 20, 2012 you can start production... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites g-bomb 0 #50 October 20, 2012 Quoteyou can start production... +1. Tiny niche my A$$. 250+ orders in 3 days. Get busy. I want mine asap Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 Next Page 2 of 10 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
imsparticus 0 #46 October 20, 2012 Hi does it use barometric pressure for altitude and calculations, and also will they ship to australia for the preorder? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmkellett 0 #47 October 20, 2012 monovision : " wear a low plus contact lens in the eye infront of the HUD " it will be a bit freaky at distance, but you should cope ok. see an optometrist to get the right script. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmkellett 0 #48 October 20, 2012 my trainging regime is strict. Solo's and 2 ways with me using stuff like this. I have a 2 way UHF VOXX setup as well, so this should compliment the whole thing. like jeb said, learn in 10 what would have taken 100.... a great idea and about bloody time ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alygator 2 #49 October 20, 2012 you can start production... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
g-bomb 0 #50 October 20, 2012 Quoteyou can start production... +1. Tiny niche my A$$. 250+ orders in 3 days. Get busy. I want mine asap Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites