mccordia 73 #26 October 18, 2011 Quote these other suits are fast Replace the word 'suit' with 'flyers' and we're getting somewhere. Work on skills...dont blame gearJC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 135 #27 October 18, 2011 I spent 5000m working on max speed, and my Ghost3 (which I definitely love and is a great suit with LOTS of potential in all fields) is definitely not as fast as an Apache, or the suits which were flown by Gé and Zune. I know I still have to work on my skillz, but I would have needed a different arrow to match their performance... Or a weight belt scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnskydiver688 0 #28 October 18, 2011 With the Ghost 3, there are some tricks I have found to get the thing into "Ludicrous Speed" but the possibility is there. And on it's back... Watch out!Sky Canyon Wingsuiters Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
michalm21 0 #29 October 18, 2011 apache is a fast suit dave flying apache beat ludo flying v4 which I saw personally i wouldn't think ludo needs to work on his skills it's just what it is Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gzimmermann 0 #30 October 18, 2011 Quote apache is a fast suit dave flying apache beat ludo flying v4 which I saw personally i wouldn't think ludo needs to work on his skills it's just what it is So much for Spot's bet and the brand war :-( what do we have so far: hips up, balls up, de-arch... All pretty much the same. Plus Butter's nuances with horizontal approach. Anything else? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 135 #31 October 18, 2011 Quote With the Ghost 3, there are some tricks I have found to get the thing into "Ludicrous Speed" but the possibility is there. And on it's back... Watch out! I know a couple of things too, but would like to hear your story. Always willing to learn. Thing is I needed to fly "rather flat" and fly fast horizontally... P.S. the suits (and people) I tried to follow had as I said an Apache, and FYB new suits (don't think they are on he market yet), with nice big armwings, and rather LONG and thin legs (speedlegs). Lots of lift, lots of speed. So that was great arrows with very good indians. I didn't feel ashamed at all. Was glad they "only" beat me horizontally, and it was good to have to fly at high percentage of my capacities. Jarno, you know that trend of "flying the smaller suit" at a higher percentage to fly with the bigger suits who don't max out... Well the feeling to fly a rather big suit at high percentage was really great scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lurch 0 #32 October 18, 2011 Ok heres another technique, or description of: Sprawl out. Being a featherbutt in a "small" megasuit (SBird) going low isnt really an issue, but if I need to climb, the actual motion I use is rather like sprawling out flat facedown on a mattress with my face turned to the side. Maximum surface area minimum drag so I don't slow down and fall behind. -BLive and learn... or die, and teach by example. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,623 #33 October 18, 2011 Quote Quote Is something wrong with... I made a bet with a friend on Facebook that there could be an intelligent technical discussion in this forum. He bet there could not be. I lose.I was "wrong" to think this forum could achieve something outside of pitching product, bitching and brandwars. I stand by Jerry Bird's advice, regardless of discipline.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mccordia 73 #34 October 18, 2011 Quote I stand by Jerry Bird's advice, regardless of discipline. Yea...and the best way to assist in case of a heartattack is just for everyone to not have one. But still CPR is a vallueable thing to know. You're quite full of usefull information lately...JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DSE 3 #35 October 18, 2011 Quote Quote I stand by Jerry Bird's advice, regardless of discipline. Yea...and the best way to assist in case of a heartattack is just for everyone to not have one. But still CPR is a vallueable thing to know. You're quite full of usefull information lately... I saw a drunken duck floating in the water fountain last week. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lurch 0 #36 October 18, 2011 Why's everyone picking on Billvon lately? Somebody posted a pic of him doing just that next to what looked like some tugboats at some nasty industrial dock last week. Theres no evidence he was drunk at the time.Live and learn... or die, and teach by example. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 135 #37 October 27, 2011 Quote Quote Is something wrong with... I made a bet with a friend on Facebook that there could be an intelligent technical discussion in this forum. He bet there could not be. I lose.I was "wrong" to think this forum could achieve something outside of pitching product, bitching and brandwars. no, you were right, but it is not in this thread. scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
michalm21 0 #38 October 27, 2011 Quote Quote Quote Is something wrong with... I made a bet with a friend on Facebook that there could be an intelligent technical discussion in this forum. He bet there could not be. I lose.I was "wrong" to think this forum could achieve something outside of pitching product, bitching and brandwars. no, you were right, but it is not in this thread. or this forum. wing suiting forum is definitely one to avoid the most next to speaker's corner Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 135 #39 October 27, 2011 the thread wit hthe instable bigger wingsuit has had pretty interesting, polite and technical replies, with no brandwars etc etc...scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,623 #40 October 27, 2011 Quote Quote I stand by Jerry Bird's advice, regardless of discipline. Yea...and the best way to assist in case of a heartattack is just for everyone to not have one. But still CPR is a vallueable thing to know. You're quite full of usefull information lately... I don't think knowing CPR will help me if I have a heart attack, or help you if you have one.However, exercise and a healthy diet will definitely be advantageous to everyone. Prevention IS better than cure.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The111 0 #41 October 27, 2011 QuotePrevention IS better than cure. Correct to a degree, though that is a different debate. But the very fact that you are comparing them means you recognize that they are different. As such, you should also recognize that when someone asks you for the best cure (which makes it clear they are in a position where they need it i.e. past the point of prevention), responding with a description of a preventative method is inapplicable, unhelpful, and also quite smug. For a more clear example, if a newbie asks you how to respond to a lineover that won't clear, and you tell him that "better packing prevents malfunctions," you haven't helped him at all.www.WingsuitPhotos.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,623 #42 October 27, 2011 QuoteQuotePrevention IS better than cure. Correct to a degree, though that is a different debate. But the very fact that you are comparing them means you recognize that they are different. As such, you should also recognize that when someone asks you for the best cure (which makes it clear they are in a position where they need it i.e. past the point of prevention), responding with a description of a preventative method is inapplicable, unhelpful, and also quite smug. For a more clear example, if a newbie asks you how to respond to a lineover that won't clear, and you tell him that "better packing prevents malfunctions," you haven't helped him at all. I guess Jerry Bird just doesn't know as much as you about skydiving.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DSE 3 #43 October 27, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuotePrevention IS better than cure. Correct to a degree, though that is a different debate. But the very fact that you are comparing them means you recognize that they are different. As such, you should also recognize that when someone asks you for the best cure (which makes it clear they are in a position where they need it i.e. past the point of prevention), responding with a description of a preventative method is inapplicable, unhelpful, and also quite smug. For a more clear example, if a newbie asks you how to respond to a lineover that won't clear, and you tell him that "better packing prevents malfunctions," you haven't helped him at all. I guess Jerry Bird just doesn't know as much as you about skydiving. I saw another duck. This one was pink instead of yellow. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The111 0 #44 October 27, 2011 QuoteI saw another duck. This one was pink instead of yellow. You clearly don't know as much about CPR as Jarno.www.WingsuitPhotos.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DSE 3 #45 October 27, 2011 Quote You clearly don't know as much about CPR as Jarno. Only because Jarno doesn't repair carburetors. But he does have a license in swimming. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIRDDOCTOR 0 #46 October 28, 2011 A gust of wind in Afghanistan blew sand in my eye today. Hugging a beachball might have helped.Base# 1638 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DSE 3 #47 October 28, 2011 please quit referring to "hugging balls." I realize you're all alone in Iraqistan, but... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Butters 0 #48 October 28, 2011 QuoteI guess Jerry Bird just doesn't know as much as you about skydiving. I guess you don't know how to slow down your vertical fallrate (and assume Jerry doesn't either) ... would you like coaching?"That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mccordia 73 #49 October 28, 2011 How many wingsuit jumps does Jerry Bird have? Or is this one of them inflate-able ducks again?If we (like you also do with physics) interprete Jerry Birds awesome advice the wrong way, should we than also tell AFF students 'just don't have a malfunction' instead of teaching them EPsAgain...VERY interested in an actual answer, instead of commentary from the balcony of the muppet theater JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,623 #50 October 28, 2011 Quote How many wingsuit jumps does Jerry Bird have? Or is this one of them inflate-able ducks again?If we (like you also do with physics) interprete Jerry Birds awesome advice the wrong way, should we than also tell AFF students 'just don't have a malfunction' instead of teaching them EPsAgain...VERY interested in an actual answer, instead of commentary from the balcony of the muppet theater He wasn't talking about dealing with malfunctions, he was talking about going low. Please pay attention.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
