That works out to be 119mph, seams like a totally reasonable speed, however it's more important that you are all falling together at the same speed.
In this you should also consider what you are using to measure that speed and where it is placed, the differences can be great between a Protrack in a helmet, or a Neptune on a wrist etc.
I use a ProTrack in my helmet. I never thought about asking each team member to show me their ProTrack after the dive, but I assume we would each have the same speed on it.
(This post was edited by Rebecca-Berlin on Sep 29, 2009, 2:32 AM)
I used a protrack in my Z1 and it was pretty consistent on 114mph, a team mate with a protrack in an Oxygen used to get 117mph. Your speed sounds good but having a speed that is comfortable for all of you is best.
In all honesty, I wouldn't look at x mph as your goal.
What your team should be doing is flying at a speed where the fastest faller will be comfortable in a normal jumpsuit (ie, no wings or excess fluff). Whatever that speed is (119, 200, 210 mph) is pretty much irrelevant.
In all honesty, I wouldn't look at x mph as your goal.
What your team should be doing is flying at a speed where the fastest faller will be comfortable in a normal jumpsuit (ie, no wings or excess fluff). Whatever that speed is (119, 200, 210 mph) is pretty much irrelevant.
perfect - your fastest faller should be able to fly right in the center of his range while in a strong and relaxed mantis- in a form fittiing suit that doesn't have any flapping or excess material - don't tie him up by making him dearch and get sloppy - or by having to wear a 'slow' fall suit that flaps or (really worse) has 'gimmicks' to slow him down. Let him fly - the rest can add lead for the same effect
as for the pros - I think over the last few, they've experimented with real fast, real slow, etc - energy and weight is a mobility tradeoff....
In all honesty, I wouldn't look at x mph as your goal.
What your team should be doing is flying at a speed where the fastest faller will be comfortable in a normal jumpsuit (ie, no wings or excess fluff). Whatever that speed is (119, 200, 210 mph) is pretty much irrelevant.
perfect - your fastest faller should be able to fly right in the center of his range while in a strong and relaxed mantis- in a form fittiing suit that doesn't have any flapping or excess material - don't tie him up by making him dearch and get sloppy - or by having to wear a 'slow' fall suit that flaps or (really worse) has 'gimmicks' to slow him down. Let him fly - the rest can add lead for the same effect
as for the pros - I think over the last few, they've experimented with real fast, real slow, etc - energy and weight is a mobility tradeoff....
I agree, the speed should be determined by range. if you all need to wear suction cups to get to that speed, don't do it. That being said, use the faster faller as your mark, not the middle faller as I have seen some teams do.
if you all need to wear suction cups to get to that speed
I don't know what that means, but now I'm intrigued
:) really, really tight jump suits, ones taht leave nothing to the imagination.
there is an advantage to falling faster as the more air you can deflect, the faster your moves will be. If, however, you need to compromise flexibility or flying position to get that speed then its not worth the trade off.
P>s I like the other type of suction cups mentioned above as well.
if you all need to wear suction cups to get to that speed
I don't know what that means, but now I'm intrigued
:) really, really tight jump suits, ones taht leave nothing to the imagination.
there is an advantage to falling faster as the more air you can deflect, the faster your moves will be. If, however, you need to compromise flexibility or flying position to get that speed then its not worth the trade off.
While this may well be true for top teams, I doubt many intermediate or advanced teams are score-limited by how fast their moves are. More likely by how skilled and precise they are.
Slightly changing the topic: on big-ways I think the balance has gone too far towards high fall rate. Fast moves are not relevant, and most of the issues we see are due to people being floaty on account of the sometimes ballistic fall rates. Last year I was on a 90-way where the fall rate was 133mph. A LOT of people were unable to dock on it.
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P>s I like the other type of suction cups mentioned above as well.
Even with the faster fall rates on big ways, you always still have people going low it seems. And it's always easier to go faster by adding weights then it is to go slower. Maybe that's the reason for the faster trend?
JFTC Fall rate was 122 mph (top, bottom and average) as measured from the base with a helmet mounted Pro Track. This was our goal fall rate and it resulted in a fast falling but smoothly building formation.
JFTC Fall rate was 122 mph (top, bottom and average) as measured from the base with a helmet mounted Pro Track. This was our goal fall rate and it resulted in a fast falling but smoothly building formation.
Did you have any problems with jumpers going low?
Did you have any problems with jumpers being floaty?
1) people didn't go low, but they sure did manage to put themselves low a few times. Either by overswooping or not getting high enough in the stadium (for floaters from all planes or most from the A-B/H-J planes)
2) floaty people were floaty (Usually a result of fear factor), until they fixed it. Jumpers who paid attention locked in the fall rate early and had little/no problems. ]
There were women wearing sweaters/sleeves and women wearing weight belts. Many women were simply comfortable with their suits and body positions from the base 6 to the outer rows, so I'd say it was a "baby bear" fall rate... just right!
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