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sdy


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Aug 18, 2008, 12:44 PM

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About Security Equipment in Skydiving... Pease help me... Can't Post

Hi to everyone... I have a question for people who have already experienced parachuting... About security, what would you like to have for enjoying in a better way this extreme sport??? What do you think is needed for parachuting to be more secure? Which security equipment do you think is missing? Or what are the most common accidents you suffer while practicing this sport?

Thanks parachuters, I hope you can answer my quiestions please...


(This post was edited by sdy on Aug 18, 2008, 12:46 PM)


dragon2

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Aug 18, 2008, 1:08 PM

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Re: [sdy] About Security Equipment in Skydiving... Pease help me... [In reply to] Can't Post

I don't think anything is missing, safety-wise.

Most accidents are caused by pilot error.


Are you fishing?


kelpdiver

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Aug 18, 2008, 1:16 PM

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Re: [sdy] About Security Equipment in Skydiving... Pease help me... [In reply to] Can't Post

I want rocket boots for tracking away. But only if they're guaranteed not to go off on the plane. And they better not cost more than $100.


kkeenan

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Aug 18, 2008, 1:21 PM

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Re: [sdy] About Security Equipment in Skydiving... Pease help me... [In reply to] Can't Post


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...what are the most common accidents you suffer while practicing this sport?


I used to hit the ground at terminal velocity a lot, but now have an Automatic Activation Device to open my reserve parachute. Sometimes, I would cut away too low for the reserve to open, but I now have a SkyHook system. My biggest problem lately seems to be hook-turning into the ground at high speed, causing multiple traumatic injuries and death. However, once in a while, I get hit by a swooper. That's usually fatal to both of us.

I think a good security device would be a Laser Cannon, that can track an incoming swooper behind me and vaporize him before he can hit me.

Roseanne Rosannadanna said it best, "You know, it's always something." Wink


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Aug 18, 2008, 1:27 PM

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Re: [kkeenan] About Security Equipment in Skydiving... Pease help me... [In reply to] Can't Post


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...what are the most common accidents you suffer while practicing this sport?


I used to hit the ground at terminal velocity a lot, but now have an Automatic Activation Device to open my reserve parachute. Sometimes, I would cut away too low for the reserve to open, but I now have a SkyHook system. My biggest problem lately seems to be hook-turning into the ground at high speed, causing multiple traumatic injuries and death. However, once in a while, I get hit by a swooper. That's usually fatal to both of us.

I think a good security device would be a Laser Cannon, that can track an incoming swooper behind me and vaporize him before he can hit me.

Roseanne Rosannadanna said it best, "You know, it's always something." Wink


Someone is developing a sensing device that knows when a swooper is too deep, and so auto-stabs the toggles or better still, deploys a drogue on the tail of the canopy, thus putting the pilot back directly beneath the main. Upon resetting body position, the drogue cuts itself away and reloads for the next potential save.Laugh


airtwardo

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Aug 18, 2008, 3:40 PM

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...what are the most common accidents you suffer while practicing this sport?


I used to hit the ground at terminal velocity a lot, but now have an Automatic Activation Device to open my reserve parachute. Sometimes, I would cut away too low for the reserve to open, but I now have a SkyHook system. My biggest problem lately seems to be hook-turning into the ground at high speed, causing multiple traumatic injuries and death. However, once in a while, I get hit by a swooper. That's usually fatal to both of us.

I think a good security device would be a Laser Cannon, that can track an incoming swooper behind me and vaporize him before he can hit me.

Roseanne Rosannadanna said it best, "You know, it's always something." Wink


Someone is developing a sensing device that knows when a swooper is too deep, and so auto-stabs the toggles or better still, deploys a drogue on the tail of the canopy, thus putting the pilot back directly beneath the main. Upon resetting body position, the drogue cuts itself away and reloads for the next potential save.Laugh



I've been working on a similar but much less expensive devise...don't want to give it away until the patent papers are all filed, but imagine if you will, something on the order of a micro-circuit ground proximity radar & vertical speed sensor...in a dog shock collar!

I'm gonna be SO fuckin' Rich! Blush


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Aug 18, 2008, 3:55 PM

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I want rocket boots for tracking away. But only if they're guaranteed not to go off on the plane. And they better not cost more than $100.



$ 99.95! Cool


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Aug 18, 2008, 4:16 PM

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Re: [airtwardo] About Security Equipment in Skydiving... Pease help me... [In reply to] Can't Post

I want a jump plane with SIX engines hooked up to separate fuel tanks with 3 pilots. It will hold 20 jumpers and get to 15,000ft in 3 minutes, only burning 6 gallons of JetA per load. All for a $10 jump ticket. And I want it to have parachutes in case of some sort of failure.
I want FOUR parachutes on each jump with SEVEN AAD's for back up.
I would like to order a "Jock Strap" airbag for hook turns and one pair of $99.95 "rocket boots."
How much is the "Swooper Laser" that gets canopy tailgaters blown out of the sky?
I want markers(kinda like weather ballons) at the DZ at 1,000ft and 500ft so I can always know when to start my hook turn.
And I only want to be on loads with everyone that has "Mad Skillz".
And a cool looking fireproof jumpsuit.


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Aug 18, 2008, 5:29 PM

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Re: [sdy] About Security Equipment in Skydiving... Pease help me... [In reply to] Can't Post


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Hi to everyone... I have a question for people who have already experienced parachuting... About security, what would you like to have for enjoying in a better way this extreme sport??? What do you think is needed for parachuting to be more secure? Which security equipment do you think is missing? Or what are the most common accidents you suffer while practicing this sport?

Thanks parachuters, I hope you can answer my quiestions please...


I think parachutists is the correct term.
You might look at some of the suggestions in this article.

.


denete

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Aug 18, 2008, 6:13 PM

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Re: [airtwardo] About Security Equipment in Skydiving... Pease help me... [In reply to] Can't Post

I always thought "The Club" had a great value-to-security ratio. Putting one on the golf cart at the DZ might be a good idea.


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Aug 18, 2008, 7:14 PM

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I always thought "The Club" had a great value-to-security ratio. Putting one on the golf cart at the DZ might be a good idea.




LaughLaughLaugh You might have something there!


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Aug 18, 2008, 7:26 PM

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I always thought "The Club" had a great value-to-security ratio. Putting one on the golf cart at the DZ might be a good idea.


Never before have truer words been spoken! Sly


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Aug 18, 2008, 7:37 PM

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What do you think is needed for parachuting to be more secure?


Fewer assholes. That's all skydiving really needs to be more secure.

HEY ASSHOLE!!! ....


airtwardo

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Aug 18, 2008, 7:39 PM

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Re: [labrys] About Security Equipment in Skydiving... Pease help me... [In reply to] Can't Post

W H A T ? ! Blush


labrys

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Aug 18, 2008, 7:48 PM

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LaughLaugh


labrys

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Aug 18, 2008, 7:54 PM

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Which security equipment do you think is missing?


Okay... I'll try to provide a more constructive, serious answer to that question:

I really wish that my dropzone would talk a lot less about abstention and a little more about birth control. They act as though condoms don't even exist. Crazy


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Aug 18, 2008, 8:13 PM

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Re: [kkeenan] About Security Equipment in Skydiving... Pease help me... [In reply to] Can't Post

Trivia question time: How many of you remember the device that appeared in several issues of the parachutist several years back that people though was real? Tell me what the device was/looked like and what it claimed to be able of doing? Laugh


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Aug 18, 2008, 8:43 PM

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Re: [LouDiamond] About Security Equipment in Skydiving... Pease help me... [In reply to] Can't Post

Don't remember what it looked like but wasn't it a "packing machine?"

NickD Smile


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Aug 18, 2008, 8:49 PM

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Don't remember what it looked like but wasn't it a "packing machine?"

NickD Smile


Wrong, no soup for you.Laugh

I though for sure someone would remember what it was. It actually pissed some people off once they discovered it was all a joke.


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Aug 18, 2008, 8:49 PM

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http://marcusantebi.com/creeps.jpg

Dave


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Aug 18, 2008, 10:07 PM

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I want rocket boots for tracking away. But only if they're guaranteed not to go off on the plane. And they better not cost more than $100.



$ 99.95! Cool


Looks like Manny, Mo and Jack getting ready for a dance contest.Tongue

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Aug 18, 2008, 10:19 PM

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Re: [pilotdave] About Security Equipment in Skydiving... Pease help me... [In reply to] Can't Post

BWAHAHAHAHAHA!


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Aug 18, 2008, 10:29 PM

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BINGO!! We have a winner!Laugh That has to be one of the all time best gags pulled in the skydiving community. I believe there are some old threads on here floating around on that device.


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Aug 19, 2008, 12:31 PM

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Re: [LouDiamond] About Security Equipment in Skydiving... Pease help me... [In reply to] Can't Post

And I loved the ad that Sonic from the Ranch put in "Skydiving", the inflatable swoop alley!Cool


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Aug 19, 2008, 12:58 PM

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Re: [NickDG] About Security Equipment in Skydiving... Pease help me... [In reply to] Can't Post

Our DZ has had a packing machine for years. It's always broken though... I swear one of our packers is messing with it so he doesn't lose business. I think it needs a whole new flux capacitor. Guess it won't be back in action this season...

Dave
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