Re: [ozzy13] Which do you prefer? AFF
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We have a higher "drop out rate" among studenst who have prevoiusly done tandems (compared to students who never have jumped before). And that doesn't just apply to AFF students, earlier when we also did SL that number was even way higher. And by drop out I do not mean that we reject the students. The students just stop to show up.
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Re: [ozzy13] Which do you prefer? AFF
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The best schools use a variety of methods at different levels, because no single method is the best. For example, tandem is the best way to get students past that huge first psychological step. Then IAD (or static-line) is good for teaching the basics of exits and canopy control. Then wind tunnels are the best place to teach freefall survival skills. Late in the process, a half-dozen jumps with freefall (PFF or AFF) instructors bring all those skills together. Finally, a few coach jumps help finish off requirements for the first license.
Pitt Meadows uses a mixture of tandem, IAD and PFF. Usually students start with a tandem, then a couple of IAD jumps before they are introduced to freefall instructors. When that wind tunnel opens - by the River Rock Casino - I am going to refuse to touch freefall students until after they have a proficiency card signed off by a tunnel instructor.
Re: [riggerrob] Which do you prefer? AFF
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Tandems are great for the student to see if this is for them. Gives them less responsibility. For body poison its not so great.
True AFF I think should be offered everywhere. Its not for several reasons. Money and lack of instructors are the two biggest that come to mind.
kind of just wanted to see what more seasoned AFFI's preferred. Feet on ass is a common thing that i have came across and its the tandem training that causes this. When I get a student from another dz that is True AFF its not a issue at all.
Re: [mrwrong] Which do you prefer? AFF
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We have a higher "drop out rate" among studenst who have prevoiusly done tandems (compared to students who never have jumped before). And that doesn't just apply to AFF students, earlier when we also did SL that number was even way higher. And by drop out I do not mean that we reject the students. The students just stop to show up.
Why do you think that is ? ( you mean students who actually make some jumps after tandems ? go through with the initial training and jumps ? )
Re: [dks13827] Which do you prefer? AFF
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I think he means that the student that does a tandem knows he/she likes it and finishes the program. Compared to the student that goes into AFF and after one or two jumps and then realizes its not for them..
Re: [mnealtx] Which do you prefer? AFF
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That sounds like it could be the best of all worlds, Rob.
They get the intro to 'the rush' in a controlled environment via the tandem.
They get the immersion for spotting and canopy control via the SL/IAD.
They get a familiarization to bodyflight via the tunnel.
Then, they wrap it all up with the AFF instructors/coaches.
It also sounds very pricey, and I know from talking to students and listening to what they are saying, cost is a big factor right now. Things are tight.
Re: [Bill_K] Which do you prefer? AFF
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That sounds like it could be the best of all worlds, Rob.
They get the intro to 'the rush' in a controlled environment via the tandem.
They get the immersion for spotting and canopy control via the SL/IAD.
They get a familiarization to bodyflight via the tunnel.
Then, they wrap it all up with the AFF instructors/coaches.
It also sounds very pricey, and I know from talking to students and listening to what they are saying, cost is a big factor right now. Things are tight.
True - tunnel time isn't cheap, but could be partially offset due to cheaper SL/IAD jumps.
Re: [riggerrob] Which do you prefer? AFF
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I love that!
IMHO, tunnel time right after tandem would be the most beneficial in that body position is so important for SL/IAD so lets get that nailed down first. Stability in the tunnel will go a long way towards helping with stability on SL/IAD exits.
Re: [popsjumper] Which do you prefer? AFF
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I love that!
IMHO, tunnel time right after tandem would be the most beneficial in that body position is so important for SL/IAD so lets get that nailed down first. Stability in the tunnel will go a long way towards helping with stability on SL/IAD exits.
In a perfect world, tunnel time would precede every AFF level. That will happen around the time I finally perfect my matter-energy-matter transporter.
