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aircraft question -- Murphy Moose

 

 


RMURRAY

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Jan 2, 2006, 5:07 PM

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Has anyone looked into whether this plane can be used for a jumpship at a small or medium sized dropzone. Maybe someone from western Canada has looked into it already???

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Jan 2, 2006, 5:16 PM

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Re: [RMURRAY] aircraft question -- Murphy Moose [In reply to] Can't Post

In the US, a kit-built Moose would be registered as "Experimental" and no commercial operations, including skydiving, would be allowed. Are the rules different in Canada?


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Jan 2, 2006, 6:40 PM

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Re: [mark] aircraft question -- Murphy Moose [In reply to] Can't Post


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In the US, a kit-built Moose would be registered as "Experimental" and no commercial operations, including skydiving, would be allowed. Are the rules different in Canada?


probably the same rules. maybe someone in the know can confirm. if so, too bad. this thing must climb like crazy with the turbine (or even the Russian radial) engine installed. Here is the "T-Moose"...


www.aerotekaviation.ca/TMo-img26-e.html

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Jan 2, 2006, 7:31 PM

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Re: [RMURRAY] aircraft question -- Murphy Moose [In reply to] Can't Post

Clicky. I see their demonstrator's for sale. Don't you need a jump plane on amphibs? No price listed, though.


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Jan 2, 2006, 11:52 PM

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Re: [RMURRAY] aircraft question -- Murphy Moose [In reply to] Can't Post

I have taken long hard, jealous, lustful, kinky, perverted looks at a couple of Murphy Mooses.
Looks like it would compete directly with Cessna 185, with the advantage that you could build it with a nosewheel to lower pilot training and insurance costs.
Like another poster mentioned, it could only be registered as "Experimental" in North America, ergo, it MIGHT be legal for a skydiving club, but not legal for carrying any kind of student.
Bet that big Russian radial would pull all day for a fraction of the cost of a Lycoming or Continental.
As for the Turbine Moose ... too much engine for the airframe. With only 6 or 7 seats, it would be hard to charge enough to pay for even a Walter turbine.

Too bad .. so sad!


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Jan 3, 2006, 4:54 AM

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Re: [riggerrob] aircraft question -- Murphy Moose [In reply to] Can't Post

oh well, too bad is right.

out of curiosity, how long do you think the T-Moose (on wheels) would take to climb to 13500 ft??? 6 minutes???

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Jan 3, 2006, 5:06 AM

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Re: [RMURRAY] aircraft question -- Murphy Moose [In reply to] Can't Post

Looks like it would be fun anyway. Listed as 3000fpm climb rate. That would be <5min to altitude IF it could sustain that rate of climb.

Pity it's an experimental.


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Re: [RMURRAY] aircraft question -- Murphy Moose [In reply to] Can't Post

I've flown in a friend's murphy. On a pretty cold day, think more like 4000fpm, probably even better if you were spot on Vx.

Haven't gotten the chance to fly it in warmer weather, but I'm sure it could consistently climb at 3000fpm. (And as we know, warm weather=much more conducive to skydiving.) Wink

Definitely one of the most fun taildraggers I've flown in! Except maybe this... Cool
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Jan 4, 2006, 4:30 AM

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I've flown in a friend's murphy. On a pretty cold day, think more like 4000fpm, probably even better if you were spot on Vx.

Haven't gotten the chance to fly it in warmer weather, but I'm sure it could consistently climb at 3000fpm. (And as we know, warm weather=much more conducive to skydiving.) Wink

Definitely one of the most fun taildraggers I've flown in! Except maybe this... Cool


I assume this is the Turbine Moose (detuned to 450HP) and not the one with the Russian radial (with 360HP). Must be nice to have that kind of money. Riggerrob, don't they use these planes in BC to fly people into lakes for fishing (ie commercial) or are they all just for personal use?
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