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Replacing Vigil cutters ... problem

 
 


riggerrob

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Oct 21, 2009, 8:10 PM

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Replacing Vigil cutters ... problem Can't Post
Today I replaced the cutters in three Vigils.

With the first two, I started them, replaced the old (type 1) cutters with new (type3) cutters and put them back together. Then I shut them off and restarted them to confirm "CUT OK".

The third Vigil refused to shut off???

Have any other riggers encountered this problem?


TaylorC

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Oct 21, 2009, 10:23 PM

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Re: [riggerrob] Replacing Vigil cutters ... problem [In reply to] Can't Post
just get cypress already


virgin-burner

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Oct 21, 2009, 11:22 PM

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Re: [TaylorC] Replacing Vigil cutters ... problem [In reply to] Can't Post
what's a tree got to do with that!? Unimpressed


piisfish


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Oct 22, 2009, 3:26 AM

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Re: [riggerrob] Replacing Vigil cutters ... problem [In reply to] Can't Post
are they the same type of Vigil ?


riggerrob

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Oct 22, 2009, 8:16 AM

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Re: [piisfish] Replacing Vigil cutters ... problem [In reply to] Can't Post
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are they the same type of Vigil ?

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All three are Vigil 1s.


IanHarrop

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Oct 22, 2009, 8:42 AM

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Re: [riggerrob] Replacing Vigil cutters ... problem [In reply to] Can't Post
Tried pulling the battery to reset its brains?

Once the battery is back in test again to see if there are issue...


(This post was edited by IanHarrop on Oct 22, 2009, 8:43 AM)


riggerrob

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Oct 22, 2009, 10:01 AM

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Re: [IanHarrop] Replacing Vigil cutters ... problem [In reply to] Can't Post
yes, I tried dis-connecting the battery - three times - but it was still stuck in the original start-up mode.

I left it sitting overnight - without the battery - and will try to restart it this morning.

Or - HEAVEN FORBID - I could read the manual!
Tee!
Hee!


BrianM

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Oct 22, 2009, 11:08 AM

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Re: [riggerrob] Replacing Vigil cutters ... problem [In reply to] Can't Post
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yes, I tried dis-connecting the battery - three times - but it was still stuck in the original start-up mode.

Was it stuck part way through the start-up sequence? If so, it is a known problem that sometimes affects Vigils. I've seen them get stuck in the shutdown sequence as well. You need to contact the manufacturer for replacement.

If you mean it was stuck in the normal standby mode (i.e. displaying "Pro" or whatever mode it is in), then I have no idea. Could be the same problem but I would only be guessing.


hackish

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Oct 22, 2009, 11:22 AM

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Re: [BrianM] Replacing Vigil cutters ... problem [In reply to] Can't Post
I have heard of more than a single vigil suffering wire failure to the head unit. The cutters are all electrically identical. It would be interesting to know if the problem occurred after switching back to the bad type1 cutter. Possibly the wire got tweaked when you opened the unit???

-Michael


ozzy13

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Oct 22, 2009, 4:51 PM

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Re: [TaylorC] Replacing Vigil cutters ... problem [In reply to] Can't Post
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just get cypress already

Why to spend 600 + more and get 8 years less nah I like my vigil :P


petejones45

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Oct 22, 2009, 9:21 PM

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Re: [TaylorC] Replacing Vigil cutters ... problem [In reply to] Can't Post
Irrelevant, i think the first guy is a rigger by trade that was just repairing customer gear.


TaylorC

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Oct 22, 2009, 10:56 PM

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Re: [petejones45] Replacing Vigil cutters ... problem [In reply to] Can't Post
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Irrelevant, i think the first guy is a rigger by trade that was just repairing customer gear.

i know the guy irl and was just giving him a hard time Tongue


riggerrob

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Oct 23, 2009, 11:16 AM

Post #13 of 19 (644 views)

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Re: [riggerrob] Replacing Vigil cutters ... problem [In reply to] Can't Post
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yes, I tried dis-connecting the battery - three times - but it was still stuck on STUDENT.

I left it sitting overnight - without the battery - and will try to restart it this morning.

Or - HEAVEN FORBID - I could read the manual!
Tee!
Hee!

................................................................

Solved my own problem.

Left it un-batteried over night.
When I plugged in the battery, the screen stayed blank. I pushed the appropriate buttons and it did a normal start-up routine.


mjosparky

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Oct 23, 2009, 12:44 PM

Post #14 of 19 (618 views)

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Re: [riggerrob] Replacing Vigil cutters ... problem [In reply to] Can't Post
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Solved my own problem.

Left it un-batteried over night.
When I plugged in the battery, the screen stayed blank. I pushed the appropriate buttons and it did a normal start-up routine.

Run Rob, sounds like a trap to me. Tongue

Sparky


Rdutch

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Oct 24, 2009, 5:37 PM

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Re: [ozzy13] Replacing Vigil cutters ... problem [In reply to] Can't Post
Yeah, and the cool thing about Vigils, is they fire turned on or not, but usallly thats at 2500ft. I wouldnt take a free Vigil.


hackish

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Oct 25, 2009, 5:58 PM

Post #16 of 19 (425 views)

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Re: [Rdutch] Replacing Vigil cutters ... problem [In reply to] Can't Post
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Yeah, and the cool thing about Vigils, is they fire turned on or not, but usallly thats at 2500ft. I wouldnt take a free Vigil.

I think you're mistaking that incident for a cypress. It was a cypress turned off that fired out the door. Unfortunately their German engineering is so efficient that I can never seem to find any posts about Cypress misfires. DZ.com says this topic was deleted even though the google cache seems to have it. Oh what am i talking about a Cypress never has and never will have any defect or ever misfire...

-Michael


skydivepete


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Nov 6, 2009, 3:27 PM

Post #17 of 19 (277 views)

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Re: [hackish] Replacing Vigil cutters ... problem [In reply to] Can't Post
The type 3 cutter also seems to have a problem nowFrownFrown

http://www.dropzone.com/...tring=vigil;#3721248


jurgencamps

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Nov 7, 2009, 2:09 PM

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Re: [skydivepete] Replacing Vigil cutters ... problem [In reply to] Can't Post
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The type 3 cutter also seems to have a problem nowFrownFrown

http://www.dropzone.com/...tring=vigil;#3721248

Do a search and tell me who manufactures the cutters of the Cypres, Vigil, Argus, ... Isn't it "Nobel energetics"?


jurgencamps

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Nov 9, 2009, 12:30 AM

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Re: [jurgencamps] Replacing Vigil cutters ... problem [In reply to] Can't Post
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Do a search and tell me who manufactures the cutters of the Cypres, Vigil, Argus, ... Isn't it "Nobel energetics"?

Mmm, did a search and found out that the manufacturer of the vigil cutters does not manufactures the cutters of the Cypres and the Argus.

 
 
 


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