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steve1  (D 23640)

Jan 27, 2002, 1:29 PM
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I tried the Wolmari pack for a while. I know the theory behind this pack job is to help prevent line over malfunctions by the way it folds up. It does really fold up nicely and goes into the bag well. The only problem that I seemed to be having with this was very hard openings. I finally went back to my old methods of pro-packing and the openings seemed much better. I'm just wondering if anyone else has noticed a difference in severity of openings using this method. I was jumping a 195 Falcon. Thanks Steve,



jayhfx  (B 6186)

Jan 27, 2002, 2:30 PM
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worked great for me. I jump a tri 160 and found it slowed my openings quite alot.

jay



imdskydiver  (C 2457)

Jan 27, 2002, 2:51 PM
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Jay , I thought that you tried the wolmari pack and then went back to a regular Pro Pack , What's up with that ?





apoil  (D License)

Jan 27, 2002, 7:50 PM
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I read the wolmary web page, and quite frankly I don't get it.

A line over malfunction is already a VERY low probability occurrance with a standard pro pack.

The wolmari pack is a solution to a nonexistent problem. It doesn't enter into the packing sequence until after you've laid the canopy on the ground. At that point a proper pro pack is not going to induce a line-over. Emphasis on proper.





jayhfx  (B 6186)

Jan 28, 2002, 5:59 AM
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yo duayne!

Where did your website go, I looked for it the other day and couldn't find it.

Anyways, towards the end of the season I went back to the pro-pack mostly because I just like to mix it up. No other reason really.

jay



imdskydiver  (C 2457)

Jan 28, 2002, 1:58 PM
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Jay , you are right , My web site is gone, It could be that it is about 5 or 10 times bigger than the 5 Mb they allow me. Maybe they check that shit from time to time.



kirils  (D License)

Jan 28, 2002, 5:46 PM
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Hey, why not just psycho-pack? You get the advantages of Wolmari and it goes in the bag easier!

Skydiving is not a static excercise with discrete predictability...


mnischalke  (D 26290)

Jan 28, 2002, 8:14 PM
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I wolmari pack every time. It has wicked predictable openings and I think they are softer than my propack. Put it this way, it will take extreme circumstances for me to hand my rig to a packer. I have just gotten so used to the openings. It's also a lot faster for me to pack, easier to handle and much easier to get in the bag. Bringing the corner to corner (read about it and you'll know what I am talking about), and you can grab the whole top of the canopy with one hand.

The whole line over thing--most of the propackers I see tucking the excess under to get that nice tight column are in fact at more of a risk of a line over than a wolmari packer who is putting all the excess on the top. If one line migrates out of the center of a propack, is tucked around the bottom and finds its way inside an end cell on the nose, you most likely have created a line over. Feel free to correct me.

IMHO, Wolmari rules!!
peace

mike

A bucket of Jet A can heat an entire county if burned all at once.


Jabeln79  (D 28755)

Jan 28, 2002, 9:59 PM
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Does anyone have the website that tells you how to wolmari pack. Or where to find info on packing this way



ojf1982  (D 25629)

Jan 28, 2002, 10:19 PM
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http://www.parasale.com/wolmari/windex.html

Omar B-24801


MarcusV

Jan 29, 2002, 2:31 AM
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Does anyone have the website that tells you how to wolmari pack. Or where to find info on packing this way
Yes: http://www.jump.to/wolmari - then click on "wolmari pack".

Marcus






apoil  (D License)

Jan 29, 2002, 7:12 AM
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In reply to:
The whole line over thing--most of the propackers I see tucking the excess under to get that nice tight column are in fact at more of a risk of a line over than a wolmari packer who is putting all the excess on the top. If one line migrates out of the center of a propack, is tucked around the bottom and finds its way inside an end cell on the nose, you most likely have created a line over. Feel free to correct me.
I guess this would explain why there's so many chopped line overs every day?

There aren't are there? So where's this increased risk of a line over and how do you know Wolmari reduces it?

When I lay my canopy down, I run my hands along the length, you can feel where the lines are. I keep them nice and straight and in the center. The "excess" that you tuck in is safe. There's no lines there. Provided you have proper technique, and it obviously doesn't need to be that good (evidence: line overs are very rare) you are not migrating any lines forward.

The most important thing to do is when you first wrap the tail around, make sure that you aren't pulling any lines around in front of the nose - THAT's the way line overs happen. If you keep everything in the back you'll be fine.

The propack is an established packing method and works well. The wolmari "technique" is probably no worse, but it's unfair to tout it as a solution to a problem that isn't really there.





phoenixlpr  (D 3049)

Apr 27, 2010, 5:37 AM
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In reply to:
Yes: http://www.jump.to/wolmari - then click on "wolmari pack".
Thaat link is dead, try this


riggerrob  (D 14840)

Apr 28, 2010, 11:04 AM
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The main thing I learned - from those photos - was the concept of squeezing air out of the canopy, then keeping a knee or arm on it to prevent it from re-inflating.

Sorry, but I have been getting frustrated training new packers.
New packers have a bad habit of squeezing the air out of canopies, letting go, watching the canopy re-inflate, squeezing the air out, letting go, watching it re-inflate, squeezing the air out, letting go, watching it re-inflate ....


phoenixlpr  (D 3049)

Apr 28, 2010, 9:25 PM
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I do only from step 1 to step 8. It helps to keep the wrap of the tail together.
Reverse bagging works lot better and easier.



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