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abyumper

Nov 14, 2003, 1:02 PM
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Has anyone heard of blind people jumping....when....how high etc?FrownFrown


CrazyDave  (Student)

Nov 14, 2003, 1:09 PM
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Has anyone heard of blind people jumping....when....how high etc?FrownFrown

yes ive heard of them.....

and you know when they know when to pull the ripcord........ When the dog lead goes slack!


davelepka  (D 21448)

Nov 14, 2003, 1:10 PM
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I know a couple of blind jumpers. They actually did a two way this summer.


KolinskyDC  (B License)

Nov 14, 2003, 1:37 PM
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Interesting that you brought that up. One of the instructors at my home DZ was talking about this guy who is blind and skydives. Not sure where this guy is from but I will ask this weekend when I see this instructor. The whole concept is absolutely amazing to me. I know that if I became blind I would continue to jump, because I trust the people at my DZ so much but not sure I would have the courage to start already being blind. Supposedly this guy did a two way with another blind guy at some point. He always wears radio, but 1 time he was too far out and they couldn't help him with his landing, not sure what happened. The coolest thing is that this guy says that he knows when to flare when he can hear the crickets. Hey, maybe I should try that Smile

Melissa


KolinskyDC  (B License)

Nov 14, 2003, 1:53 PM
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Here is the guy that I had mentioned in my previous post. Pretty cool stuff.

http://www.parachutehistory.com/skydive/records/blind.html


Aviatrr  (D 27349)

Nov 14, 2003, 1:56 PM
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I remember reading an article recently about a couple of blind skydivers doing a copule of 2 ways. They had safety jumpers in the air with 'em to make sure they didn't lose each other and collide on deployment. They used multiple audibles, and the first guy pulled in place when his audible went off...the other guy tracked for a thousand or two feet then pulled. One of the safety jumpers stayed with him til he pulled. They were then both on radio for landing.

I can't remember where I read it....maybe Parachutist? I'm sure somebody will remember where it came from.

mike


flyinggoose  (B License)

Nov 14, 2003, 2:04 PM
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I think you're right about the Parachutist. It was either this last issue or the one before. Maybe we should close our eyes tomorrow and check it out. May be even better.


kelel01  (A License)

Nov 14, 2003, 2:09 PM
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Ok, this might sound stupid, but I guess it's not that unbelievable. When I did my first AFF, I was COMPLETELY dependent upon what they were saying over that radio, and just by doing exactly what they told me, with no cognition on my own part (totally my fault, adrenaline + nerves) I landed completely fine. I think my biggest concern in such a case would be a canopy collision. Anyway, just my $.02.

Kelly


jumperconway  (D 24335)

Nov 14, 2003, 2:19 PM
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Has anyone heard of blind people jumping....when....how high etc?FrownFrown

Why don't most blind people jump? Scares the shit out of their dogs!Laugh


ixlr82  (C 33491)

Nov 14, 2003, 2:24 PM
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http://crw.boxofclue.com/skydive/rossi.html

Check this out. Hopefully, I made it clicky. If not, someone will.


jeremyneas  (D 20133)

Nov 14, 2003, 3:27 PM
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I had a blind tandem passenger this year...but thats not the same thing is it. He did great though.


Nightingale  (B 26984)

Nov 14, 2003, 3:46 PM
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with all the direction I was getting over radio from my aff instructor, I probably could've landed with my eyes closed... glad I didn't have to, though.

I'm really glad that they found a way to pursue their passion and didn't let a disability stand in their way. I really admire people like that. I don't know if I could be that strong.


larry  (A 39180)

Nov 14, 2003, 3:53 PM
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I remember the very first jump, radio assist of course, not being able to tell where the hell I was till after landing. Was surprised to find myself in the airfield! Can't even imagine being that "blind" when landing now.


YahooLV  (D License)

Nov 14, 2003, 4:18 PM
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We have a great guy that comes out every once in a while to Perris to do skydives. His group seems to do quite well with him and they turn a few points on each dive. BTW, he's blind. He's got a radio that ground can communicate with to let him know how his chute is opening, and where to steer. His landings are usually better than sighted landings.


flyangel2

Nov 14, 2003, 4:33 PM
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One of the local Drop Zones in my area had a couple come out and "watch" the skydivers. They got so excited about it, they did some Tandems. After about 15 Tandems the gal begs the owners cause she wants to do a non-Tandem jump. The DZOs are worried about it, but she insist that it'll be fine. They ended up working with her for about a week before they decided she could do a S/L jump. Everything went well till she landed. She hasn't jumped since.
I think there are different levels of blindness, as to how much light, shadows and etc. they can see. Kinda like the different levels of deafness. If someone was totally blind, how could they do it unless they are on some kind of radio for their landings?


Nightingale  (B 26984)

Nov 14, 2003, 4:38 PM
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they are usually on radio for landings.


flyangel2

Nov 14, 2003, 4:43 PM
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they are usually on radio for landings.

Yeah, I think that's what I said :
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how could they do it unless they are on some kind of radio for their landings


catfishhunter  (D 28796)

Nov 14, 2003, 4:55 PM
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Thank you for the link. I am in awe and am truly different after ready his stories.


davelepka  (D 21448)

Nov 14, 2003, 5:05 PM
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Oh yeah, Dan flat packs his Falcon by himself.


nitecap  (D 130)

Nov 14, 2003, 5:29 PM
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There was a blind jumper at the POPS world meet at Chilliwack BC Canada in 1999. I know he was entered in the hit and rock competition I have the video of that event.


Lee03  (B License)

Nov 14, 2003, 8:44 PM
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We have a JumpMaster at our DZ that has made several jumps with a blind skydiver. I have to admire the guts of someone that can do this with the handicap that they have! Pure GUTS! SmileCoolSmile


chuteless  (D 41)

Nov 15, 2003, 7:52 AM
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I'm not blind, but I made a blind jhump back in1967.

I had been a regular at Parkman DZ in Ohio, and another jumper (Larry Hartman) dared me to make a blindfold jump.

We wrapped my eyes with black cloth and stuffed some more inside the pair of goggles I was to wear.

The idea was that we would leave the aircraft at 7500 ft, and I would go base, with Larry hooking up with me.

All went well until Larry overshot me, and I had no idea where he was. I started counting in the middle of the jump, and figured I'd fallen for 30 seconds, and opened my Para Commander.

The next phase was to be talked into the target area with the aid of a 3 ft bullhorn....which broke about the time we left the aircraft.

I thought I must be in good position, so wasnt to worried, but after a bit, no bullhorn diirections.

I just flew the ole PC around, and had no idea where I was going.

I finally hollered "where am I?"

No answer.

I hollered again "where am I?"

Still no answer, and Ihit the ground with a THUD.

I got up, and took off the blindfold, and was surprised to find I had just drifted over a set of multi high tension wires along the side of a road, about 1/2 mile south of the airport.


Larry drove up in his car and apologized, and we both had a good laugh over it.


FrownME LaughLARRY SlySlyBoth of us



Bill Cole D-41


ltdiver  (D 20506)

Nov 15, 2003, 8:58 AM
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John Fleming jumps at Perris regularly. He has over 1900 skydives (over 900 of them after his sight left due to Retinitis Pigmentosa taking it away).

He's one awesome guy. This past April we did a fund raiser for his chosen charity, "American Counsel for the Blind", in which I was asked to shoot video for. An article was written by Mike Muscat and was published in Skydiving Magazine.

ltdiver


bshl  (B 28944)

Nov 15, 2003, 1:54 PM
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All I can say is that Dan is one hard core dude!


BlindBrick  (C 35382)

Nov 15, 2003, 4:15 PM
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Has anyone heard of blind people jumping....when....how high etc?FrownFrown

When I began jumping, my eye sight was bad enough that they were trying to take away my driver's liscense.

Jumping was a really liberating experience for me because it allowed me to do something that most people never do at a time when people were telling me I couldn't do stuff anymore that most people do all the time.

When they took my job away because of my eyesight, I made ends meet by rigging.

I always knew my eye sight was bad(at it's worst 20/120 left eye, 20/100 right eye) but didn't realize how bad it was till after I had my transplants. I went up for a jump and realized that there was another airport about 10 miles away. I'd always know it was there, but never realized that you could see it while in freefall.

Given my experiences, I have nothing but total respect for those jumpers who enjoy this sport with zero vision.


-Blind


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