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JadedLady

Oct 21, 2003, 10:36 AM
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Hello everyone. Thank you for taking the time to greet me. My name is Rachel and I am pretty new to sky diving. I took my first dive at the end of July, and fell madly in love right away. I was a lost cause from that point on. Due to circumstances, I was not able to jump again for about three weeks, but after that, pretty much every free moment I had was spent at the DZ. Unfortunately spare moments are hard for me to come by, especially since my closest DZ is two hours away, I haven't made many jumps. I only have 19 under my belt, but am desperately trying to get my A license before the season ends so I can take a trip or two to FL over the winter. I live in Ohio and don't know if I can bare a whole winter without jumping now that I have had my first taste. I am very very open to any advise anyone is willing to give. I definitely need all the help I can get. I am a living, breathing version of Murphy's Law so believe me, I have already had quite a few mishaps. Fortunately everyone has been so nice and understanding with me so far (even the person whos car I kind of collided with, leaving an imprint of my head in the trunk) so I feel so welcome. I am thrilled to be part of such a great group. Feel free to write me if you have any advise or just want to chit chat.


Premier skymama  (D 26699)
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Oct 21, 2003, 10:54 AM
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Welcome to the forums! Smile I'm glad you are having a good time. I jump in Deland, so if you make it down to FL, let me know and I'll try to meet up with you. Also, if you're having any problems with canopy control it would behoove you to sign up for classes with Scott Miller if you make your way down here.


JadedLady

Oct 21, 2003, 11:07 AM
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Thank you very much, I would love to meet up with you. With any luck I will be making my first trip down in early December. Canopy control? Me have problems with canopy control?? That's a laugh! Problems doesn't even begin to describe it. This is my worst problem so far, also the reason I got my nickname (granted I shouldn't have been jumping anyway due to 35mph winds and me just being a student, but I am so hard headed some times). I have PLFed more times than not when attempting to land. I really appreciate your advise and will definitely look into that.


Flygator  (D 27135)

Oct 21, 2003, 11:47 AM
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Welcome to your new world Jaded one! Blue Skies!!!


lewis321  (D 27539)

Oct 21, 2003, 11:48 AM
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Glad to have you join us... KARMA.....sooooooo tell us the storyBlush

Whyyyyyyyyy were you jumping in 35 mph winds may I ask?

LIVE LIFE, SKYDIVE

Todd


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Oct 21, 2003, 12:19 PM
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Thank you very much, I would love to meet up with you. With any luck I will be making my first trip down in early December. Canopy control? Me have problems with canopy control?? That's a laugh! Problems doesn't even begin to describe it. This is my worst problem so far, also the reason I got my nickname (granted I shouldn't have been jumping anyway due to 35mph winds and me just being a student, but I am so hard headed some times). I have PLFed more times than not when attempting to land. I really appreciate your advise and will definitely look into that.

Hey you! Welcome to the Dropzone.com forums. Smile

With your experience level, you should not be jumping in 35mph winds. Period. Say no, sit out the load and come back the next day or weekend. Skydiving is a load of fun (as you know!) but is not very forgiving when it comes to mistakes made and even less so for stupidity. (Sorry! Tongue)

Keep your cool, take it slow and stay safe and you'll enjoy jumping for many years.

Seems like you need some advice on landings and wind. Here's an article by Gary Peek. Read it and ask questions in the Safety & Training forum. Gary, and many others with loads of experience hang out there and will gladly help. Hope to jump with you some day! Smile

http://www.dropzone.com/...etail_page.cgi?ID=38


bluegremlin  (Student)

Oct 21, 2003, 2:52 PM
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granted I shouldn't have been jumping anyway due to 35mph winds and me just being a student, but I am so hard headed some times


Your DZ Let you jump in those conditions???

And how did you hit a car with your head, Share the stories?

Welcome to DZ.com, Blue Skys and NILL WINDS


selbbub78  (C 34824)

Oct 21, 2003, 3:35 PM
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Hey,

Welcome to the forums, and to skydiving. Scott Miller's canopy class is great. I took it, and it has done miricles to my landings, along with playing with my canopy in the air!!!! Granted, i don't have many jumps, but 35 miles/hour? I don't know if that's a great idea... Welcome to the forums, and to skydiving. Good luck with the rest of your jumps. I know you'll be able to get them in. That is if the weather will hold upCrazy


SkydiveNFlorida  (C License)

Oct 21, 2003, 4:43 PM
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oh, my. I would never jump in 35mph winds! I don't know of many people who would. I don't even think our dz sends loads up in winds like that.

Good luck with your 'a' license. You can always finish up your requirements in Florida if you can't do them there, just make sure you stay current. what are you missing on the card?

PM me when it gets closer to coming to Fla, my home dz is Sebastian but I frequent others as well and maybe we can meet up:)

Cya soon, welcome to the forums !
Angela.


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Oct 21, 2003, 5:29 PM
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>With your experience level, you should not be jumping in 35mph winds. Period

I totally agree! At much over a gusty 20 I'm sitting out too. But... Accourding to the National Weather Service the max winds recorded that weekend in the area of the DZ were only 15mph. Clicky

To someone thats lightly loading a large canopy like Rachel does, 15mph is a lot of wind to be fighting through.

Looks like there is another one that needs to get the canopy class that corrected WrongWay and his tendency of landing in odd places and off the DZ Wink

Nice to see you posting Rachel. Smile


JadedLady

Oct 21, 2003, 6:06 PM
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Forgive me everyone, I am very very new and I apparently misunderstood the readings. Thankfully I have dear friends who let me know when I am making a complete fool of myself. (sheepish grin) For some reason or another I was thinking the winds on the ground were 35 mph, heaven knows where I picked that up. This whole time (been about three weeks) I've had that in my head, not even considering how fast that really is. I will have to go back and find out how fast they were going before I can give a true answer. All I know is my much more experienced friends were telling me it was not advisable that I jump, and I stupidly disregarded them. I hadn't jumped for two weeks and was dying to go again. Once at the DZ there was just no stopping me. The fall was amazing, but under canopy I realized I got in way over my head. I had a difficult time fighting the winds, and finally I thought I had myself on track, but at about 1k I realized I was not doing as well as I had thought. I tried to turn to come in over our runway, but was falling very fast. At about 500 it seemed I would just clear the parking lot area where several cars were, but suddenly I just dropped. It kind of felt like all of the air dissappeared from under the canopy for a brief moment. (I later found out about turbulence ::grin::)I was coming in way too fast to even consider turning, I was so afraid of hooking it into the ground. I tried to dodge between two cars, but lack of skill did me in. I hit the car basically from behind, leaving a nice little dent (sorry Brian!) and ended up laying between the two cars. I can only imagine what it looked like to see someone's canopy laying over a car and hearing an angry spew of profanity coming from somewhere on the other side. I was numb with shock and with the help of a few friends, I was checked over and helped up. Fortunately there wasn't too much damage to myself. I had a huge bruise across my thigh and opposing knee and both ankles were swelling quickly. Strangely enough, though, it did not hurt nearly as bad as one would imagine. In fact, I got right on the next load. (If you fall off the horse.) My next landing really lifted my spirits too. I think I could have stood it up if I hadn't felt an extreme jolt of pain stab through my ankle as soon as my foot touched. I was so pleased, but needless to say, that was my last jump for the day. With any luck, and a good deal of coaching, I hope to get much better at my canopy skills. I am absolutely terrible, but everyone has been so helpful already. So that's my best story so far, but with my luck, I am sure I will have many more (wink). I will be more than happy to keep you all informed of my mishaps! Take care.


Lee03  (B License)

Oct 21, 2003, 8:40 PM
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Re: [JadedLady] naive newbie, go ahead, poke fun (grin) [In reply to] Can't Post

Hiya Rachel,

Great to meet ya. Smile No worries here, I'll never poke fun at you. Sounds like you got the addiction as bad as me. Laugh Know what it's like to live so far away from the DZ, 1 to 1 1/2 hour drive for me. Worth every second of it though. I've thought of a way to beat that though, I'm a pilot, so I can rent a plane from the flying club I belong to and fly up to the DZ, will be allot quicker that way Laugh Flying the canopy really isn't that hard for me.. JM told me that he noticed that pilots generally tend to have little trouble with canopy control, because they understand about flying, pattern work etc. My biggest problem is relaxing, for some reason, I just can't seem to get relaxed, regardless of what I do. Don't understand why, just can't seem to relax. Not afraid of jumping out of the plane, just seens thatI'm naturally tense/stressed. Hey, on your way to Florida, why don't you drop off at Atlanta and jump with us Laugh Love to have you. Just a thought. Winters are usually pretty mild here in Georgia, so I believe our DZ stays opened all year round. Write me sometime, I'll be glad to answer and chat Cool


bluegremlin  (Student)

Oct 22, 2003, 12:43 PM
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In fact, I got right on the next load. (If you fall off the horse.)
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No offence but
ARE YOU CRAZY
You were told the winds were too high, then you experience the winds being too high, you have a bad landing because the winds were too high, then you get on the next load up.

Glad to hear that you didnt hurt your-self too much, Good luck for future jumps


Fireflyer  (A 43955)

Oct 22, 2003, 3:48 PM
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nice story on the car landings Smile. glad you are OK. welcome to the forums!


JadedLady

Oct 22, 2003, 7:08 PM
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Crazy? Well, that's what the doc says, but I think he's wacko... ::grin:: Not crazy, just stupid. We all have our moron moments, mine just seem to come around more often than not ::wink::
At the time, I just did it because I had to prove something to myself. I was afraid that if I didn't get right back on the plane, I would be hesitant to do so the next time around. It may not have been the most brillant of schemes, but it was just someting I had to do.


Paige

Nov 22, 2003, 7:01 AM
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Silly monkey, no jump in crazy wind! That's alright, I am sure the car has forgiven you Tongue Sorry had to poke fun a little Wink We all do way stupid things I just hope we all live through them, in the air and on the ground.

Can't wait to see ya in a couple of hoursCool


Airborne03  (D License)

Nov 25, 2003, 2:19 PM
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I have PLFed more times than not when attempting to land.reply]

Sounds like youd be a good candidate for Army Airborne School...you dont even get the choice...even if you can stand up the landing, you still have to PLF or get kicked out of the course...
so keep your head up..and just think, if u ever go, your going to be far ahead! Smile


ACMESkydiver  (B License)

Nov 26, 2003, 9:45 PM
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Ow-y! Unsure Well, glad you're Ok. I try to be sooo careful about overeagerness...it can be a very bad thing. -But I feel ya, I just have to get back up in the sky sometimes! Thanks for the story though; it'll sure remind me to keep it cool when I'm rarin' to go. Cool


sunshine  (D License)

Nov 27, 2003, 10:34 PM
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Ok, so i'm late welcoming you to the forums, but i hardly check this one. Anyhoo, i'm glad you're a dzcommer now!! Hanging out with you over Labor Day was fun, and next year we will actually JUMP together!! Until then, be safe and listen to those OH peeps. Especially that phreezone guy, he's pretty smart. Smile


bch7773  (C License)

Nov 28, 2003, 6:37 PM
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welcome to the forums

so do you all not jump in the winter in ohio? well, feel free to come on down to KSUPC in kansas... we jump all winter. usually pretty short load wait times when its 10 degrees... don't know why Tongue


pleifer  (A License)

Nov 29, 2003, 9:12 AM
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welcome to the forums

when I was on my fifth jump winds were about 10-15 miles an hour. my jumpmasters waited around half the day hoping the winds would die down. and when the afternoon hit they kinda did, well long enough to get in the plane and get to altitude. I was jumping like a 290, which is a 0.5 to 1 wing loading for me. htey briefed me about jumping in winds blah blah blah. but when it came down to it and i turned to final. I was pretty much going strait down. ie no forward movement. then I flaired then it picked me up 5 foot and took me backwards about 20 feet and continued to drag me into a corn field until I could colapse the canopy. IMHO on of the most grasful landings to date. but like everybody recomendations here if you don't feel comfy jumping in a conditions don't.


Chute  (Student)

Dec 8, 2003, 6:47 AM
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Welcome to the forums.
When someone on DZ.com makes fun it is fun because we like you love this sport. What I have noticed is all to keep us coming back and or to get us motivated to jump. Don't get me wrong. But some of those mishaps need to have a laugh.Laugh

Blue Skies


sdgregory  (B 26817)

Dec 8, 2003, 3:26 PM
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Hey Jaded!

Funny how I am just noticing this post. Crazy Thanks for the story and just to make you feel better I did a hop and pop for my 12 jump and the winds were coming over the buildings and I planned my landing pattern but then somehow allowed myself to get too far downwind and well ended up landing in that turbulent zone behind the manifest building. Needless to say that like you I was at 500 one second and on the ground the next. Hurt, scared me and I knew I had to go up agin or I might never. Frown No . . . wait . . . I would have because . . . well . . . you knowWink.


aprilcat

Dec 9, 2003, 2:23 PM
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Had I read this beforehand, I would have NEVER gotten into a plane, but I understand the excitement to get back up. I'm a sky-hitcher (tandem freak) who got into the sport during my last two years of university. I do EVERYTHING late! I swore once I graduated I was going to run away and join the skydiving circus, but I have kids to send out on into the world first (they think their mom is a Hard-ass now) On my maiden voyage, we (my friend John B and Bill & Brenda G. of the Golden Knights) drove 5 miles from Asheville to Raeford, and we listened to great music all the way. After some really bad karaoke from me (I thought I could sing just as well as fly after the tandem) we drove back the next day and there were 5 hours of horror stories of bouncing, crashing, people walking into the propellers, you name it. I asked them why didn't they tell me beforehand and they said: what? and SCARE you? (Sidebar: not too many women in New York KNOW who Dana Bowman is, he's my HERO).

When I went back to do a photo study (and get in some more tandems) I spend a LOT of time with Bill Rafferty and the 82nd on the hot targets. Bill taught me how to get out from behind the beer line and not be afraid of what was coming at me in the lens and I got swooped, damn near killed at the tuffet rode right-side with the pilot. My claim to fame? I never ran! I learned to watch the wind socks and tree tops and knew when a load was not going to go up. Those guys were hard-core and they wouldn't jump in high winds. You are lucky, JadedLady, please listen when someone tells you its not safe.

hmmm. a quick memory. I was terrified on my second tandem, but I went out like a maniac on my third and fourth. There is a glitch in my head.

And yes, I will be taking classes and getting a license. So don't call me a leg or I'll break yours! (J/K). Blue skies.


Soozie

Dec 9, 2003, 6:35 PM
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As long as each jump teaches you something....and I've seen you learning. Your gonna be...well you know the rest. I had fun jumping with you. Keep learning Rachel and I will too.


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