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Funneling the exit

 


rendezvous  (C License)

Jan 11, 2002, 8:10 AM
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Ok, very basic question but I need to know the exact meaning. What is Funneling the exit.



freeflir29  (D 10000000)

Jan 11, 2002, 8:16 AM
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A belly fly group exits......usually the front float doesn't present enough and the people exiting from the inside flip over forward because of the speed differential. The entire formation ends up folding up and then it "explodes" as people let go and try to get stable again.

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RemiAndKaren  (C 2328)

Jan 11, 2002, 8:23 AM
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It can funnel for a very large number of reason: as you said, F Float doesnt present enought, but also if he present too much, if the people in the door dove too steep or not steep enough, rear float dragging the formation down if they go too early, front person in the door not presenting their upperbody.... you name it!

I think the reason its called a funnel is due to the shape of the chaos that follows: you end up with people pilling one of top of each other in the middle typicaly, and then they drop, creating a "funnel like" shape.

Remi
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Albatross  (D 32026)

Jan 11, 2002, 3:53 PM
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Bottom line is that a Funnel is an exit that ends up bad: Splits apart or has one or more people not belly to earth.

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lazerq3  (C -34113)

Jan 11, 2002, 5:07 PM
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Although I have been in a couple funnels , that was actually pretty fun!!!! Not that I would want to make a habit outof it though.

jason



Premier skybytch  (D License)

Jan 11, 2002, 5:49 PM
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Actually you can have a funnel other than on exit... like when someone docks hard on a larger RW formation and one whole side of the formation goes down the drain...

Not that that's ever happened to me of course Wink

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lisa
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tigra  (C 27417)

Jan 11, 2002, 7:10 PM
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or when someone flies under the formation and steals the air.
There's lots of ways to funnel formations.



skymedic  (C 33561)

Jan 12, 2002, 12:15 PM
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Well as Harry Parker of the Melon Heads says.....Funnel starts with the word FUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!..................

marc
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brokeneagle  (D 27414)

Jan 12, 2002, 12:47 PM
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Funneling is sometimes unavoidable with groups of low/high experience jumpers, and sometimes done on purpose to topple a "skygod" from his/her self-imposed pedestal-- FYI, in politically correct terms, a funneled jump is aka a "zoo load". In street skydiver, a FUBAR, and in gutter terms, the name "cluster fuck" has been seen in a few logbooks.... no matter the name, let's keep the "fun" in the occasional dive that doesn't go as planned....
Brokeneagle.

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Premier billvon  (D 16479)
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Jan 12, 2002, 5:48 PM
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>I think the reason its called a funnel is due to the shape of the chaos that follows: you end up with people pilling one
>of top of each other in the middle typicaly, and then they drop, creating a "funnel like" shape.

On large dives, it can look very much like a funnel. It's especially eerie when you have 100 people in the air and someone takes out someone else some distance from you. You see people falling out of the skydive, and you know there's a big problem headed your way, but you can't see or feel anything until it gets within 2-3 people of you.

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