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NtheSeaOrSky  (Student)

Jan 6, 2002, 9:40 AM
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I didn't know what to call them, those wind tunnels not associated with dropzones. Well there is one somewhat nearby (several hours) and I am having difficulty stopping my spins on my own. On my level 3 AFF when I turned, the JM's stopped and I fell stable on heading the rest of the time. On my level 4, it was a mess. I was backsliding and turning all over, no matter the corrections I tried (legs, arms, arch, breathe, relax) or the counter turns I attempted. I was at one time in a hard left spin banking (and looking) as hard as I could to the right. My JM's verdict was my legs need to be out more. Should I continue to do "practice jumps" at the current cost $150 or opt for a little training in the tunnel (much cheaper)? Are there any drawbacks to using the tunnel as a student at this level? I want to be able to recognize what is causing the problem and how to correct it, but with the very little time I have in freefall, it doesn't leave me much to work with. Can I get the basics in the tunnel and "finesse" them in freefall??



Premier PhreeZone  (D License)
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Jan 6, 2002, 9:44 AM
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Check out this threadhere for info on Tunnels.

PS goto the one in Orlando if you want the best coaches and service.

I want to touch the sky, I want to fly so high ~ Sonique


weid14  (D 20292)

Jan 6, 2002, 9:46 AM
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also, SkydiveU has a recognized tunnel AFF program (of course canpoy skills area little lacking Smile.



NtheSeaOrSky  (Student)

Jan 6, 2002, 9:52 AM
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Keep in mind this is a non-DZ type of tunnel. Doubt they would have great AFF theachers Laugh. I am looking to be able to correct myself not develop freeflying techniques.



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Jan 6, 2002, 10:01 AM
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If you are refering to Flyaway, you might be able to get a good coach, or you might not.... Go to SkyVenture for the best advice.

I want to touch the sky, I want to fly so high ~ Sonique


sportjumper  (A 36302)

Jan 6, 2002, 10:04 AM
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I think the tunnel in Orlando probably IS the best on account of the afforementioned reasons........I went there prior to my (2nd) level 3 jump @ Skydive Tampa Bay, bought 30 minutes w/a coach......Cured my stability problems for the most part, and I passed the rest of my AFF with no sweat. It certainly gave my body a better idea of how to fly.(Skydiving aint the most NATURAL thing!) I wouldn't hesitate to go to the tunnel, regardless of which one it is. (I've been to the one in Pigeon Forge Tenn. also) Guaranteed it'll help.
Gregg
P.S. If you can start a spin, you can probably stop one!



Premier billvon  (D 16479)
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Jan 6, 2002, 10:30 AM
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>Should I continue to do "practice jumps" at the current cost $150 or opt for a little
> training in the tunnel (much cheaper)?

Probably. I had a level 4 student yesterday who came to AFF with 6 minutes of tunnel time, and he did awesome in the air. He will probably make it through AFF in four jumps - we did all the level 4 and 5 TLO's on one jump, and he was rock-solid. (He also had half a dozen military round jumps, and so had a bit of canopy experience as well.) He trained at the tunnel in Orlando.

-bill von


weid14  (D 20292)

Jan 6, 2002, 4:44 PM
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Keep in mind that Skyventure has two employees that are now jumping on world class 4way teams and skydive U is all about belly flying. you can't do free fly in teh tunnel until you can belly fly in there proficiently.



rezz92  (Student)

Jan 6, 2002, 5:31 PM
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Something to think about. Midway airlines is offering $49 flights from RDU to Orlando.



nick  (D 103197)

Jan 7, 2002, 12:51 AM
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Does anybody know if there are any wind tunnels in the UK, they all look to be the states and thats a long way to go!!

Nick



RemiAndKaren  (C 2328)

Jan 7, 2002, 3:06 AM
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no wind tunnels in the UK.

There are strong rumours that plans are in place for one to be build in London (skyventure orlando type with fans sucking the air from the top), but untils its up, I wont really beleive it....

Besides, the cost of things in the UK will probably make serious tunnel time here more expensive then a cheap trip to Orlando...

Remi
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nick  (D 103197)

Jan 7, 2002, 4:32 AM
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Cheers for that, I'll keep my eyes open.

Nick



fab  (C License)

Jan 7, 2002, 11:37 AM
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hello nick,

the closest windtunnel for you would be in Germany I think...near the Holland/Germany border (www.air-power-arende.de)



fonz

Jan 8, 2002, 8:25 AM
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In reply to:
www.air-power-arende.de
Netscape is unable to locate the server:
www.air-power-arende.de
The server does not have a DNS entry.

krypton$ traceroute www.air-power-arende.de
traceroute: unknown host www.air-power-arende.de
krypton$ nslookup www.air-power-arende.de
[snip]
*** noc.liacs.nl can't find www.air-power-arende.de: Non-existent host/domain

I hope you simply made a typo, for I'm quite interested in this particular tunnel.

Alphons

http://www.liacs.nl/~avwerven


nick  (D 103197)

Jan 8, 2002, 9:57 AM
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Here's a link to a list that was posted on another forum.

http://www.primeline.com/~highwind/whp_vwt_list1.html

Nick




fab  (C License)

Jan 8, 2002, 11:43 AM
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so sorry...
www.air-power-arena.de
But it is a rather small one I think..not as sophisiticated as you would find them in the USA



fab  (C License)

Jan 8, 2002, 11:50 AM
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Hi Fonz,

Haven't seen you around www.parachute.nl for some time...you know Jarno right?...He was the one who went to the windtunnel in Germany..check out the posts on the dutch website.

bye
Fab



fonz

Jan 9, 2002, 4:45 AM
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In reply to:
www.air-power-arena.de
Thanks. I tried various corrections, but didn't think of this one.Blush

Pity that the site's font is hardly legible, but of course: when all else fails, read the source Wink

In reply to:
But it is a rather small one I think..not as sophisiticated as you would find them in the USA
But it's cheaper than the US tunnels as well Laugh

Alphons

http://www.liacs.nl/~avwerven


fonz

Jan 9, 2002, 4:46 AM
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In reply to:
Haven't seen you around www.parachute.nl for some time...
I'm there, believe me. It's just quiet there at the moment.

In reply to:
you know Jarno right?...
Not personally (never been to Flevo), but I do know that he was the one who went to the tunnel.

Thanks,

Alphons

http://www.liacs.nl/~avwerven


MarkM  (C 35089)

Jan 9, 2002, 12:50 PM
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Damnit. After reading this thread and the other one I ended up enrolling for a tunnelcamp at SkyVenture.

There really needs to be some sort of "warning: after reading this you will spend lots of money" icon for threads like this.



fab  (C License)

Jan 9, 2002, 2:43 PM
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I saw also on the wind tunnel homepage (adress to that page was also posted somewhere on this thread) there is a new wind tunnel (twister) in France which looks pretty nice and a lot better then the one in Germany. I don't think it's operational yet though...I would love to visit that one...
Are you thinking about going to Germany Fonz?




skymedic  (C 33561)

Jan 9, 2002, 5:35 PM
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which camp are you going to mark? I would recomend the magik boys.....they even have an all inclusive which includes two hours in the tunnel, 18 coached skydives, hotel, and transport while in FL........check it out...


marc
"...a mind stretched with new idea's will never regain its shape"


Albatross  (D 32026)

Jan 9, 2002, 6:03 PM
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I just got back from a tunnel camp today. I flew in the Airspeed tunnel camp (tunnelcamp.com) and it was incredible. We had 1 student who had 7 jumps and had almost quit the sport due to a high speed spin. By the end of the camp he was flying better than most people who have hundreds of jumps. Another guy with 2 tandems only, was turning star dougnut points well. Point is that in a few days these students who couldn't fall stable now were moving at will and had few is any issues with stability at any time. I ahve heard that the SkyVenture instructors are very good for basic stability as well.

God bless us and God Bless America
Albatross


prost  (D 24959)

Jan 9, 2002, 10:11 PM
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Where do we check it out?



MarkM  (C 35089)

Jan 10, 2002, 6:35 AM
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I'm going to the airspeed tunnelcamp skymedic. I live in Fort Lauderdale so Orlando's just a 3 hour drive. Really looking forward to it.



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