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3fLiEr

Dec 20, 2001, 5:21 AM
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I was just curious on how people break off after a Ffly dive I have been on a few dives where there have be collisions between Ffliers because people have turned 180 as they go flat or just peeled off backwards and have had people behind / above them. I know we should all be aware of where everyone is on the dive but sometimes you hear your dytter and you just peel off or turn 180 and flat.

I myself will turn to find a clear corridor before I go flat and this means I normally go flat and track around 4000ft (most go at 4,500) I then barrel role before deployment just to make sure no one is above me.

Sometimes we all jump with people of varying skill sets and it would be nice to brief everyone on how to break safely there is not enough thought about this IMHO.

Can you explain how you break from ffly dives to cut down the possibility of collisions or how do you explain to someone say who is on your 4 or 5 way who is not that used to jumping with that many people?

Just trying to get a bigger picture on how people jump safely. More knowledge more fun!


BSBD


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BenW  (C License)

Dec 20, 2001, 5:39 AM
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F3lier,

When engaging in darkside antics, our normal procedure is to break at 5,000ft, turn 180degs then instead of going flat, go into a v.steep dive/track, becoming a flat track. This stops the corking problem and gives you time to look around.

Works for us.

3B.



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Dec 20, 2001, 5:46 AM
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The first thing that I do is carefully Select the people I jump with, I'm not about to take someone that just got stable in a sit out on a 5+ way. During the entire dive you should be paying attention to where people are and were. If you launched a train, and the person behind you never comes around to the side, there is a good bet they are still behind you that type of stuff. Other wise what I've done on multiple occasions is with a break of 4500, at 5000 or 5500 I'll do a quick spin to make sure the air space is clean, but I don't have to leave early this way.

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skreamer

Dec 20, 2001, 7:47 AM
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In reply to:
I myself will turn to find a clear corridor before I go flat and this means I normally go flat and track around 4000ft
I think this might explain why you are always pulling low - do you really track for 4000 ft??? Shocked

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3fLiEr

Dec 20, 2001, 8:34 AM
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Shit man - very bad English.... I mean I start at 4,000ft.........

Will - I dont pull low ..................................4000...............................................................3000................................................................................................................2000....................................................................1000..........................................................................................700......."fire".............anymore................

bsbd



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freeflir29  (D 10000000)

Dec 20, 2001, 8:47 AM
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"very bad English"

and I speak English good!!!! Laugh

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Clay


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Dec 20, 2001, 10:14 AM
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I think the biggest issue is seeing everyone, just like it is during an RW breakoff. It's the jumper you don't see who's going to take you out.

First most important thing is keeping everyone in sight. Easy on a 2-way, not so easy on a 6-way. Obviously skill is a big issue here - if everyone is close, it's easy to keep track of people. If they're tracking all over the sky it's not so easy.

Second most important thing is looking where you're going. I don't do much head down, but when sitflying I roll and track so I can look ahead and below me - the two places someone can cause trouble for me. For head-down, I would guess that a transition to a track (either flat if you're low or steep if you have the altitude to spare) would be the ticket.

Third would be keeping your eyes open _after_ the canopy opens, just as on an RW dive. You can't avoid what you can't see.

-bill von



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