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skydog834  (C 18711)

Jul 24, 2003, 11:59 AM
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I have my gear listed for sale in the classifieds and have recieved some offers from Russia. They asked to pay me by credit card but I refused.

Has anyone had any experience selling gear to people from Russia? Itold them that I would only accept payment by PayPal or money order.

any help or info would surly be appreciated.

Blue Skies,

Glenn in Alaska


(This post was edited by skydog834 on Jul 24, 2003, 12:50 PM)


PhillyKev

Jul 24, 2003, 12:08 PM
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errrr...can't they use a credit card to pay through pay pal?


bwilling  (C 13618)

Jul 24, 2003, 12:14 PM
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errrr...can't they use a credit card to pay through pay pal?

Only if they have a premium account & pay the fees, and then the transaction goes from CC to buyers paypal account, then from buyers paypal account to sellers... but I'm guessing that if it's a stolen card or something, it could still hose up the seller... paypal had a horrible rep for holding up peoples funds in cases like this, and I don't know if those problems have disappeared since Ebay bought them.


Clownburner  (B 26842)

Jul 24, 2003, 12:38 PM
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From Russia? I'd only accept an international money order in US funds, or a wire transfer. Just too much fraud going on there right now... No offense to our Russian brethren, but it's true. Frown


skydog834  (C 18711)

Jul 24, 2003, 12:48 PM
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Thanks for the info. Since I posted this msg. I received another email saying his friend in Washington would call me to arrange the sale. Also another Russian.

Skydog834


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WFFC  (D 24610)

Jul 24, 2003, 1:13 PM
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Thanks for the info. Since I posted this msg. I received another email saying his friend in Washington would call me to arrange the sale. Also another Russian.

Skydog834

A couple words: certified funds


NightJumper  (D License)

Jul 24, 2003, 1:32 PM
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A couple words: certified funds

A few more words: Bank Wire Transfer


Premier Remster  (C License)

Jul 24, 2003, 1:45 PM
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A couple words: certified funds

A few more words: Bank Wire Transfer

Dont know... I'm not a banking expert, but the least people hout there with any of my banking details, the better off I fell. I'd rather waith for a certified check or money order to be delieved snail mail rather then giving my account info...... or do I not understand the data you need to give for a wire transfer?


NightJumper  (D License)

Jul 24, 2003, 1:52 PM
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Dont know... I'm not a banking expert, but the least people hout there with any of my banking details, the better off I fell. I'd rather waith for a certified check or money order to be delieved snail mail rather then giving my account info...... or do I not understand the data you need to give for a wire transfer?

I use what is called a clearing or sweep account. As soon as the funds hit the account they are transferred to another account. I have used this system for over ten years and have never had a problem.


phonics1981  (A License)

Jul 24, 2003, 3:23 PM
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My mate has got a pay pal account and he pays money into it from his credit card. He doesnt pay any fees. He pays pay pal and they pay the seller. Should be ok...?


tbrown  (D 6533)

Jul 24, 2003, 3:25 PM
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I've seen some stolen gear notices that involved credit card fraud from Russian buyers. Cash, money order, or tell 'em nyet !


bch7773  (C License)

Jul 24, 2003, 6:46 PM
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I don't know a whole bunch about international money transfers, but what about an escrow service? They receive the money, you send your gear via certified mail, and so you have proof that you sent it, and the escrow service then gives the money to you... minus a fee


MonkeyLip  (D 26041)

Jul 24, 2003, 8:51 PM
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I sold my cobalt to a guy in Novosibirsk, Russia in May and the only real acceptable way to do this is via wire transfer to your bank account. I had no problems with my transaction. This is the fastest and the most secure way to conduct bussiness as there is a lot of credit card fraud in that country at this time. Once the funds were received I sent the canopy to the requested mailing location insured.

MonkeyLip


skydog834  (C 18711)

Jul 24, 2003, 9:22 PM
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Smile Many thanks to everyone that responded to this post. I solved this problem by sending my rig to Skydive Snohomish in Washington. They will inspect it and hold on to it until a friend of the buyer sends payment by western union and I have the funds in hand. The buyers friend will send the rig on to Russia for me. This was the best of all possible solutions for me.

Again thanks to all.Cool

Blue Skies from 32 miles above the Arctic Circle.

Glenn lodge



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