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sewing the chest strap permanently routed

 


andy2

Jun 30, 2003, 2:12 PM
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Maybe this idea has been thought of before (probablyTongue). But would it be too hard to sew the END of the chest strap to the point where the chest strap originally connects, permanently routed. That way when you put on your rig, youd pick it up, slip your head under the chest strap, put on the rig, then you'd have to step into the leg straps standing up. Then tighten the chest strap to where you like it, s fold the excess chest strap, and lock it down.

The only problem I see is that getting on your rig would be a little more awkward at first, especially if you cant get into your leg straps with the rig on your back, standing up (read not flexible!).

What do you think? Is there an inherent problem I am not realizing here?


lizzieb  (D 27386)

Jun 30, 2003, 2:20 PM
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what if you have a water landing and need to quickly get out of your rig?


andy2

Jun 30, 2003, 2:21 PM
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yeah ok, I thought of that a few moments after posting Shocked. I guess that would kind of make this not feasible.


hookitt  (D License)

Jun 30, 2003, 2:50 PM
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Actually a much more radical form of that design was nearly implimented or shall I say, thested. The harness was far from conventional. It was pretty cool.

You're not too far off.


Blahr

Jun 30, 2003, 3:11 PM
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Might work more easily on rigs set up with B-12's on the leg straps


andy2

Jun 30, 2003, 3:14 PM
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yeah! Thats actually what got me thinking about it. Some dude had leg straps that came off completely, and I was like well, if those are open, then you might as well close off the other loop, the chest strap. Now that everyone's been talking about chest straps lately it got me thinking.

Hookit, was that a manufacturer testing what you are talking about or was it just some random dude? (maybe theres not much difference between the two with some manufacturers!!! Sly)


ChileRelleno  (D 24868)

Jun 30, 2003, 3:58 PM
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Its not a good idea... if it was it would be a common mod.


Premier billvon  (D 16479)
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Jun 30, 2003, 4:03 PM
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>Its not a good idea... if it was it would be a common mod.

Doesn't mean it's bad. The Skyhook, airlocked canopies, the Collins Lanyard - those aren't that common, and none of them is a bad idea (in my opinion.)

As an alternative suggestion, why not just leave the chest strap threaded the normal way, get a bunch of rubber bands to keep it there, and then just never unroute it? Same result and no mods to the gear needed.


Scrumpot  (D License)

Jun 30, 2003, 4:06 PM
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Quote:
what if you have a water landing and need to quickly get out of your rig?

You can always trade off (or balance considerations for) one perceived risk vs. another. We do it every day! How much more likely is it (to you) for one risk over the other to occur? Which one do you want to feel more prepared for? ---Just some (devils advocate type) thoughts.


lizzieb  (D 27386)

Jun 30, 2003, 4:43 PM
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yes, i know...i was just bringing up 1 possibility where a sewn chest strap could be a disadvantage


tb62871  (A 23465)

Jun 30, 2003, 5:14 PM
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What if the chest strap had a B-12? You would never completely un thread the the friction lock and if it wasn't hooked therre would be nothing across the chest to see. And you should feel the B-12 bouncing on your leg or something. Not that I'm looking to change anything . The chest strap just needs to be checked for proper routing and all will be well as is.


darkwing  (D 4164)

Jun 30, 2003, 5:20 PM
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Hey Chile, that seems to mean that all good ideas have already been thought of? I think not.


ChileRelleno  (D 24868)

Jun 30, 2003, 5:31 PM
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Never said it was a "bad" idea.

Now the idea of some sort of B-12 snap on a chest strap ain't a bad idea either, it would probably be easier than unthreading your chest strap in the event of unintentional water landing. That is if the end of your chest strap if folded over and tacked to prevent it inadvertently coming completely undone thru the hardware.

But if those were truly "good" ideas they would probably already be common.


(This post was edited by ChileRelleno on Jun 30, 2003, 5:33 PM)


ChileRelleno  (D 24868)

Jun 30, 2003, 5:32 PM
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In no way meant to mean that...Crazy


markbaur  (D 6108)

Jun 30, 2003, 6:03 PM
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In reply to:
The idea of some sort of B-12 snap on a chest strap ain't a bad idea either ...
[If this were a truly "good" idea, it] would probably already be common.

(Showing my age...)
I can remember when snaps (B-12s or quick-ejects) were the standard way to hook up leg straps and chest straps. That was acceptable because, after all, folks used similar snaps to connect their reserves to their harnesses. (Great idea! If you had a malfunction and used your reserve, you could just borrow someone elses to snap to your harness, and continue jumping!) Who was it posting here recently about wanting to jump a Stylemaster?

Mark


Premier billvon  (D 16479)
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Jun 30, 2003, 9:58 PM
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>Now the idea of some sort of B-12 snap on a chest strap ain't a bad
>idea either, it would probably be easier than unthreading your chest
>strap in the event of unintentional water landing.

They used to be common. They actually used quick ejectors instead of B-12's. You can release those in seconds.

>But if those were truly "good" ideas they would probably already be common.

They work well but are heavy, ugly and uncool. Cool sells.



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