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rendezvous  (C License)

Jun 30, 2003, 6:52 AM
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Does anyone know if the 727 or whichever jet that was is going to be there this time or is being worked on. I don't see it in the current fleet available on the web and there seems to be no sales pitch around it.


ojf1982  (D 25629)

Jun 30, 2003, 7:01 AM
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If they say that the jet will be there dont believe them until it shows up. Last year, on the website the jet was "confirmed", and durng the convention leading up to the day the jet was supposed to show up, they said it was going to be there, but the day it was supposed to show up, some "insurance problems" came up.


apoil  (D License)

Jun 30, 2003, 9:09 AM
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If they say that the jet will be there dont believe them until it shows up. Last year, on the website the jet was "confirmed", and durng the convention leading up to the day the jet was supposed to show up, they said it was going to be there, but the day it was supposed to show up, some "insurance problems" came up.

The last Jet at the WFFC was in 2000
The last Connie at the WFFC was in 1997

If you go, expecting one of these aircraft, expect to be disappointed.


Premier PhreeZone  (D License)
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Jun 30, 2003, 9:21 AM
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Call the WFFC and get them to fax you the paperwork that the airplane owner had to send them about the canceled insurance. The Jet was sitting on the ramp in Detroit I believe just waiting for the word to fly, same with the Connie. The plane was as good as there except the insurance company pulled at the last day or two. Word was the owner was even going to fly it uninsured for the WFFC but the insurance company shot that one down fast.

They are not even advertizing a jet but I'd put money on Kirlin trying to work on some special planes for us again.

If you are going to a boogie just to make 1 or 2 jumps odds are you're missing out on the really good things at the boogie. The C130 was back for the first time in years, the DC3 is back, there is a new chopper, the biplane, the ballons, the normal planes...

If you really want a jet jump the Espace boogie has the jet this year again.


WFFC  (D 24610)

Jun 30, 2003, 10:04 AM
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We are working on specialty planes. There are some that won't be announced until the webteam can run over and take a picture of said elevator sitting on the tarmac. I've got copies of both letters from the plane owners who backed out at the last minute as their insurers changed their mind at the last minute. Phree is correct. The &%# operator was going to fly without insurance, but the insurer threatened to cancel all the policies on the rest of his fleet if he did. There were some (me) that suffered a credibility hit due to the &%# being listed as confirmed. I guess having copies of the preliminary approval for insurance and personal phone calls from the operators was not enough. The boogie is not entirely about one plane. Come for the fun. Besides, the door on the C130 is much bigger than the other...

P.S. will post copies of the letters if anyone wants.


ojf1982  (D 25629)

Jun 30, 2003, 11:09 AM
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I was only planning on going that year for a few days, but when i heard the jet was confirmed i asked for a few more days off from work, just to jump the jet. Regardless, wffc2002 was a shitload of fun, and i wish i could go back this year, but hopefully i will be able to go in 2004.


rendezvous  (C License)

Jun 30, 2003, 2:12 PM
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Oh ! I'm definitely going to be there Jet or no Jet. All set for that. Just wanted to know if the big plane was planned for this year.


WFFC  (D 24610)

Jun 30, 2003, 3:21 PM
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Oh ! I'm definitely going to be there Jet or no Jet. All set for that. Just wanted to know if the big plane was planned for this year.

Always plan for the unexpected at the WFFC... Wink


skymedic  (C 33561)

Jun 30, 2003, 10:14 PM
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any gathering of DZ.comers is always a blast..whatever we have to jump out of!!!!!!!!!!SmileSmileSmileSmile


apoil  (D License)

Jul 1, 2003, 6:25 AM
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We are working on specialty planes. There are some that won't be announced until the webteam can run over and take a picture of said elevator sitting on the tarmac. I've got copies of both letters from the plane owners who backed out at the last minute as their insurers changed their mind at the last minute. Phree is correct. The &%# operator was going to fly without insurance, but the insurer threatened to cancel all the policies on the rest of his fleet if he did. There were some (me) that suffered a credibility hit due to the &%# being listed as confirmed. I guess having copies of the preliminary approval for insurance and personal phone calls from the operators was not enough. The boogie is not entirely about one plane. Come for the fun. Besides, the door on the C130 is much bigger than the other...

P.S. will post copies of the letters if anyone wants.

That may be true, and I'm inclined to believe it, but you flat out LIED about the Connie in 1998, 1999 and 2000.

So regarding these aircraft, the bottom line is, believe it when you've boarded it.


WFFC  (D 24610)

Jul 1, 2003, 7:42 AM
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That may be true, and I'm inclined to believe it, but you flat out LIED about the Connie in 1998, 1999 and 2000.

I did not have anything to do with website or anything else those years so your response would be incorrect.


apoil  (D License)

Jul 9, 2003, 11:05 AM
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I did not have anything to do with website or anything else those years so your response would be incorrect.

By you, I mean "the WFFC". You are posting under that name. You are speaking for them. You can't just disassociate yourself from what was said by people in your position before. And even though, like I said, I'm inclined to believe you, it's a simple fact: 3 consecutive years with no jet, 5 consecutive years with no Connie. So expecting such aircraft to be in attendence would be setting oneself up for a disappointment.


WFFC  (D 24610)

Jul 9, 2003, 1:05 PM
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By you, I mean "the WFFC".

I assumed that, but had to post what I did. My rules are simple, if it's not going to be there, we're not putting it up. I've got a list of 'rules' that I have to have before I'll put it up. Even if the aircraft that has been discussed in this thread is 'confirmed', I don't belive we'll post it until we can take pictures of it sitting on the tarmac. Smile



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