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If you quit jumping, are you still a "skydiver"?

 

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Poll: If you quit jumping, are you still a "skydiver"?
Made one tandem and quit, skydiver for life 9 / 5%
Made one tandem and quit, no longer a skydiver 26 / 13%
Made 100 jumkps and quit, skydiver for life 46 / 23%
Made 100 jumps and quit, no longer a skydiver 25 / 13%
Made 1,000 jumps and quit, skydiver for life 51 / 26%
Made 1,000 jumps and quit, no longer a skydiver 40 / 20%
197 total votes
 
Chowder

Nov 13, 2017, 7:06 PM
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If you quit jumping, are you still a "skydiver"? Can't Post

If you quit jumping, is it legit to still call yourself a "skydiver"?
Does it make a difference the number of jumps you accumulated before you quit?


LeeroyJenkins  (D License)

Nov 13, 2017, 9:29 PM
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Re: [Chowder] If you quit jumping, are you still a "skydiver"? [In reply to] Can't Post

These results are fun.


obelixtim  (D 84)

Nov 14, 2017, 5:10 AM
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Re: [Chowder] If you quit jumping, are you still a "skydiver"? [In reply to] Can't Post

 IMO if you have made one intentional freefall jump, solo, out of a plane, you are a skydiver.

One static line jump, means you are a parachutist.

One emergency jump means you are a member of the caterpillar club, and a lucky mofo.

That can't be taken away from you.

A tandem is just a carnival ride.


DiverMike  (D 35026)

Nov 14, 2017, 5:58 AM
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Re: [obelixtim] If you quit jumping, are you still a "skydiver"? [In reply to] Can't Post

I can understand some people looking down at tandems as 'carnival rides', but what is up with the hating of static line? In the 1970's, there really wasn't AFF. If you intentionally let go of the strut, I consider you a skydiver. You would have 2-3 seconds of freefall before the canopy deployed.

I tried to join S.R.A - Skydivers Ressurection Award, but was told that because my static line jump in 1974 wasn't 'freefall', it didn't qualify. Interestingly enough, to qualify for SRA, the return jump after a 10 year layoff can be a tandem carnival ride.

Quit hating the static line jumpers Tongue


obelixtim  (D 84)

Nov 14, 2017, 6:17 AM
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Re: [DiverMike] If you quit jumping, are you still a "skydiver"? [In reply to] Can't Post

 I don't hate static line jumps, I regard it as the best, safest, and most efficient method of learning to jump. My jumping predates AFF by quite a few years (1974).

AFF by comparison is a very difficult way to teach and learn. I've never liked it as a method of instruction.

I make the distinction between SL and FF simply because at no point is the jumper on SL physically separated from the plane, before his parachute is deployed. He's not really in free fall. A skydiver has to deploy his own parachute after separation from the plane.

Anyone who jumps out of the plane on their own, whatever method they use, deserves huge respect, because they alone have to deal with any problems that might arise. Their fate is in their own hands.

And that is why a tandem is not the same. A tandem rider is just a piece of meat strapped to the front of a skydiver. Any problems, they don't have to do anything to save themselves.

Not saying any method requires more or less courage. All are a leap of faith.

I always found my SL students got a bigger sense of achievement than any tandem rider, simply because they did it on their own, so it was much more personal to them.

You could sometimes sense a feeling of jealousy from the tandem riders because of it, even though they had the buzz of freefall.


(This post was edited by obelixtim on Nov 14, 2017, 6:28 AM)


countzero  (D 32712)

Nov 14, 2017, 6:20 AM
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Re: [Chowder] If you quit jumping, are you still a "skydiver"? [In reply to] Can't Post

To me once a licensed skydiver, always a licensed skydiver.


DanG  (D 22351)

Nov 14, 2017, 10:29 AM
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I haven't made a real jump in almost eight years.

I'm not a skydiver. I'm a former skydiver.


HPC

Nov 14, 2017, 11:01 AM
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Re: [Chowder] If you quit jumping, are you still a "skydiver"? [In reply to] Can't Post

If you made one tandem jump, you're not a skydiver. You're just someone who made a skydive.
If you're currently jumping, even off and on due to family, job, or life just getting in the way, you're a skydiver.
If you no longer jump nor intend to, you're a former skydiver.
Not really all that complicated.


(This post was edited by HPC on Nov 14, 2017, 11:04 AM)


DougH  (D License)

Nov 14, 2017, 11:26 AM
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My ratio of TI jumps to fun jumps has sucked lately.

I am not a skydiver, I am just a carnival ride cargo plane. SlySly


JerryBaumchen  (D 1543)

Nov 14, 2017, 3:07 PM
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Re: [DanG] If you quit jumping, are you still a "skydiver"? [In reply to] Can't Post

Hi Dan,

Quote:
I'm a former skydiver.

About 5 yrs ago I was looking for an attorney in southern California. I found Chuck ( Scratch ) Harris, and old-time jumper in the San Diego area.

I introduced myself as a former skydiver. He told me point-blank, 'Once a skydiver, always a skydiver.'

We each define it for ourselves,

Jerry Baumchen


wmw999  (D 6296)

Nov 14, 2017, 3:18 PM
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Re: [JerryBaumchen] If you quit jumping, are you still a "skydiver"? [In reply to] Can't Post

When I wasn't jumping (13 years), I don't think I ever called myself a former skydiver. I'd say I used to skydive, or used to jump.

I am myself; I do my actions.

Wendy P.


mbohu  (A License)

Nov 14, 2017, 6:46 PM
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Re: [wmw999] If you quit jumping, are you still a "skydiver"? [In reply to] Can't Post

Yeah, it's a "doing" not a "being".


jerolim  (F License)

Nov 15, 2017, 2:49 AM
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Re: [Chowder] If you quit jumping, are you still a "skydiver"? [In reply to] Can't Post

Red Line: Everyone thinks that I love this life, that I chose THIS. Who would choose this? It's a God damn curse! Infructus!

Turbo took only way out !


nicsoew  (B License)

Nov 15, 2017, 5:37 AM
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Re: [DanG] If you quit jumping, are you still a "skydiver"? [In reply to] Can't Post

DanG wrote:
I haven't made a real jump in almost eight years.

I'm not a skydiver. I'm a former skydiver.

Define real jump please.


DanG  (D 22351)

Nov 15, 2017, 7:35 AM
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Re: [nicsoew] If you quit jumping, are you still a "skydiver"? [In reply to] Can't Post

I did a tandem a year and a half ago to celebrate my 20th sky birthday. I would have rented gear and done a currency jump, but a physical disability requires me to use custom gear.

I haven't made a solo skydive in almost eight years.


HPC

Nov 15, 2017, 7:59 AM
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Re: [JerryBaumchen] If you quit jumping, are you still a "skydiver"? [In reply to] Can't Post

Hugh Hefner felt the same about Playmates - once a Playmate, always a
Playmate.


akarunway  (A 143885)

Nov 17, 2017, 10:11 PM
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Re: [nicsoew] If you quit jumping, are you still a "skydiver"? [In reply to] Can't Post

nicsoew wrote:
DanG wrote:
I haven't made a real jump in almost eight years.

I'm not a skydiver. I'm a former skydiver.

Define real jump please.
A head down clocked at 225 mph maybe. TongueShocked


DBCOOPER  (D 24112)

Nov 18, 2017, 8:31 AM
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DougH wrote:
My ratio of TI jumps to fun jumps has sucked lately.

I am not a skydiver, I am just a carnival ride cargo plane. SlySly

I know a few people with a whole lot of recent jumps and a whole lot of total jumps that I wouldn't call a skydiver...


Justincblount

Nov 18, 2017, 2:42 PM
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Re: [DBCOOPER] If you quit jumping, are you still a "skydiver"? [In reply to] Can't Post

I only have 2 AFFs and a tandem, but I voted if you do 100 and quit you're not really a skydiver, I've heard people say around 200 you get used to it, but 100 isn't 200. At least not for them. I think when you no longer have that fear of the jump, at that point you are always a skydiver because it will affect other areas of your life. It's like if you go around making a bunch of prank videos on strangers, eventually you'll be so boss at socializing that you can hit on chicks like it's nothing, cause you're so used to getting negative or positive feedback that you just aren't afraid of dealing with either. That kind of thing.


jclalor  (B 33202)

Nov 18, 2017, 3:37 PM
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What I really want to know is at what jumping milestone do I get to call myself an Extreme Athlete?


jackwallace  (Student)

Nov 18, 2017, 4:31 PM
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Re: [Chowder] If you quit jumping, are you still a "skydiver"? [In reply to] Can't Post

I'd guess its in your heart. I've known people that were jumpers before they ever stepped out of a plane. They are/were magic to jump with and watch. Its like the circus. When it gets in your blood, you're always there.
I'm a has-been. I hasbeen a skydiver and am proud of it.
I know people who haven't been out of a plane for 40 years and you can see it in their eyes and hear it when they talk. That they have never really left the air.


jimmytavino  (A 3914)

Nov 26, 2017, 8:38 AM
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Re: [jackwallace] If you quit jumping, are you still a "skydiver"? [In reply to] Can't Post

jackwallace wrote:
I'd guess its in your heart. I've known people that were jumpers before they ever stepped out of a plane. They are/were magic to jump with and watch. Its like the circus. When it gets in your blood, you're always there.
I'm a has-been. I hasbeen a skydiver and am proud of it.
I know people who haven't been out of a plane for 40 years and you can see it in their eyes and hear it when they talk. That they have never really left the air.


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Nice Post...
For Anyone who has ever enjoyed exiting a plane and Freefalling.....
Try to Never say.. " My Last Jump / Skydive was..... " even IF it has been years ago or decades ago....Unimpressed
Instead try to say " My Most Recent Jump / Skydive was ..... " !!!

See the difference?? Wink jmytSmile


raftman  (D 22337)

Nov 27, 2017, 8:19 AM
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Re: [Chowder] If you quit jumping, are you still a "skydiver"? [In reply to] Can't Post

I Haven't done scuba in 20 years, am I still a scuba diver??


Bigfalls

Nov 27, 2017, 9:03 AM
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Re: [Chowder] If you quit jumping, are you still a "skydiver"? [In reply to] Can't Post

Skydiver Emeritis


ChrisL  (C 35323)

Nov 27, 2017, 9:41 AM
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Theres an option missing from this poll, and its the option I would have picked, so I cant play.


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