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photognat

Jun 24, 2016, 1:02 AM
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http://www.sony.jp/.../products/FDR-X3000/

Flat bottom for easy mounting, BOSS in 4K and 1080/120. $500.


jtiflyer  (D 27430)

Jun 25, 2016, 10:33 AM
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Looks interesting, for fear of bad translation, I await information in english (being half japanese and unable to speak or read, I feel so american).


CTSkydiver  (D 18461)

Jun 28, 2016, 3:41 AM
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Figures, as I just bought an FDR-X1000V. Unsure


artard  (C License)

Jun 28, 2016, 11:26 AM
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Does this mean the X1000 already has BOSS for 1080/720? And for all framerates?


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Zlew  (D 21616)

Jun 28, 2016, 11:55 AM
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The idea of BOSS in an action cam is pretty incredible. GoPro better come out with something pretty sweet for the hero5.


photognat

Jun 29, 2016, 12:33 AM
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Nope. This is the first action camera (other than the Kickstarter Revl) with optical stabilization (BOSS). The X1000 and other Sonys only have electronic stabilization at 1080/60 and they make the image look like smeared puke. Optical stabilization is what allows the X3000 to still work at 4k/30 & 1080/120 since it doesn't require electronic image processing.


Dos  (C License)

Jun 29, 2016, 12:53 AM
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The video is quite impressive indeed ! I didn't find anything on that cam on the net. Does someone knows when this little beauty is going to be released in europe ?

Here's another video compared to the X1000

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ew5S5EFoudU


(This post was edited by Dos on Jun 29, 2016, 12:59 AM)


DougH  (D License)

Jun 29, 2016, 8:16 AM
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Looks excellent, I have one of the first Sony's with BOSS but I haven't been flying outside video much, so I never get any further than having exit equipment make me a custom box.

This would be so much smaller and lighter.

I am guessing the bigger camera body would still handle low light and other conditions better overall though.


mathrick  (C 2763)

Jun 29, 2016, 10:19 AM
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Interestingly enough, it seems to have much less fisheye lens distortion, despite having a nearly identical FOV. I wonder if they changed the sensor area?


Maxx  (D 9594)

Jun 30, 2016, 3:16 AM
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Translation:

https://translate.google.de/...ducts%2FFDR-X3000%2F


gowlerk  (C 3196)

Jun 30, 2016, 8:03 AM
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mathrick wrote:
Interestingly enough, it seems to have much less fisheye lens distortion, despite having a nearly identical FOV. I wonder if they changed the sensor area?


Wide angle lenses don't have to be fisheyes, they can be more rectilinear. Although every lens, and especially wide lenses have distortion. It just costs more money to make better lenses. Hopefully they did not shrink the sensor instead of improving the optics.


Edit, it appears they did shrink the sensor 1/2.5 as opposed to 1/2.3.


(This post was edited by gowlerk on Jun 30, 2016, 8:08 AM)


Cloggy  (D License)

Jul 1, 2016, 10:45 AM
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Looks like there will be a slightly cheaper version that doesn't do 4k http://www.sony.jp/.../products/HDR-AS300/. From the pictures it looks like it will have BOSS too.


RMK

Jul 8, 2016, 3:18 AM
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See this Amazon ad (for Japanese model) with a few better photos of the camera:

https://www.amazon.com/...mestic/dp/B01HAVKTF2


artard  (C License)

Aug 9, 2016, 7:24 PM
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Anyone know when this thing is actually coming out in the US? Hopefully in time for the holiday season?


RMK

Sep 4, 2016, 9:43 AM
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In news this week, the unit will be available in November:

https://www.cinema5d.com/...-optical-stabilizer/

http://www.sony.co.uk/...m/fdr-x3000-body-kit


(This post was edited by RMK on Sep 4, 2016, 9:47 AM)


RMK

Sep 9, 2016, 12:02 PM
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new info & pricing announced today:

https://www.dpreview.com/...-stabilized-4k-video


mathrick  (C 2763)

Sep 9, 2016, 5:45 PM
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I like the smaller remote, the old one is a tad too bulky to fit on a Viso wrist strap easily. It can be done, but it just sticks out.


degeneration

Sep 23, 2016, 2:41 PM
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Anyone know if the X3000 or AS300 are backwards compatible with the old remote the RM-LVR2 or will they only work with the new remote the RM-LVR3?


milo54

Nov 19, 2016, 8:28 AM
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Has anyone used one of these yet, I'm curious to see how the footage holds up against the gopros


CTSkydiver  (D 18461)

Nov 20, 2016, 12:02 AM
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Shot my first 4K video with the X3000 during 40-way day, dusk, and night dives last week in AZ (POV). I also shot 1080P wide with an X1000 and some backwards shots with an AS200. No direct side-by-side comparison available to GoPro, because I only had one of those and was using it to back-up my A6300 for stills.

I'll try to post some links in the next day or two.

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I'll also try checking if the old remote works with the new cameras (and vice versa). I haven't used the remotes yet, so there may be a bit of a learning curve.

If weather and scheduling cooperates, and I can get out to the DZ in the next few days, I'll try a direct comparison between the X3000 with BOSS and the X1000 without in the same 4K mode. If someone has a 4K/30 capable GoPro they want to loan me, I'll shoot that too.


(This post was edited by CTSkydiver on Nov 20, 2016, 12:08 AM)


evh  (D License)

Nov 20, 2016, 10:23 AM
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What is your first impression?


CTSkydiver  (D 18461)

Nov 21, 2016, 8:51 AM
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evh wrote:
What is your first impression?

That my very expensive, under two year old powerhouse laptop (4th gen i7-4810MQ, GeForce GTX980M, 32GB DDR3 1600, 3x SSD) needs an upgrade to smoothly handle the high-bitrate 4K streams put out by these cameras. Mad

Other than that, I'm very happy with the quality so far. Looking forward to compare it side-by-side with my AX-53, if I ever get around to building a new top-plate to mount them both on.

Haven't been able to work with the footage yet. Will update when I do.


johnmatrix  (E 9999)

Nov 21, 2016, 1:03 PM
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CTSkydiver wrote:
evh wrote:
What is your first impression?

That my very expensive, under two year old powerhouse laptop (4th gen i7-4810MQ, GeForce GTX980M, 32GB DDR3 1600, 3x SSD) needs an upgrade to smoothly handle the high-bitrate 4K streams put out by these cameras. Mad

Maybe that is the case but you could try checking the power settings, if I unplug my laptop it automatically changes to a power-saving mode which results in video not playing well.
Make sure it's on a 'high power' setting.


mircan  (D 32291)

Dec 1, 2016, 4:14 AM
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degeneration wrote:
Anyone know if the X3000 or AS300 are backwards compatible with the old remote the RM-LVR2 or will they only work with the new remote the RM-LVR3?

It seems that it is compatible.

https://www.sony.net/...bilty_Chart_lvr2.pdf


degeneration

Dec 1, 2016, 5:02 AM
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mircan wrote:
degeneration wrote:
Anyone know if the X3000 or AS300 are backwards compatible with the old remote the RM-LVR2 or will they only work with the new remote the RM-LVR3?

It seems that it is compatible.

https://www.sony.net/...bilty_Chart_lvr2.pdf

Interesting. Seems you can do everything on the RM-LV2 on these cameras that you could on the AS200 for example, EXCEPT change the steadyshot settings...

So unless the BOSS is on always, seems strange you can't toggle it on/off with the old remote.


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