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Gloves and risers?

 


freeflir29  (D 10000000)

Oct 2, 2001, 7:28 PM
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OK...I was jumping last weekend and the first couple loads it was still pretty nippley. I put the gloves on...tried both some Franklin batting gloves and military Nomex. The entire jump went well except for the turns to final. I love to heeve down on my front riser when I make that last turn. I was having a very hard time holding on to the risers. The gloves just don't have the grip I need. I heard one suggestion of having some foam sewn on the risers. As I sit here I was just thinking of grabbing the risers palm facing out instead of in. What suggestions does the P-nut gallery have?

P.S. I can't use the dive loops cause my brakes are just barely too short. If I grab the risers up at the connector links it turns great but does the porpoise thing with the loops. I love the way the canopy glides with my arms straight out so I hate to move the brakes.....Am I just bitching too much?

"The sky resembles a back lit canopy...with holes punched through it"- Incubus
Clay


Aviatrr  (D 27349)

Oct 2, 2001, 8:23 PM
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Either get some tackified gloves(such as Neuman's - but they're expensive), or take the redneck way out....go to Wal-Mart, buy something called Shoo-Goo, and slather it all over the palms of the gloves.. It's the same thing that many people use on booties to keep 'em from wearing so fast..

Mike



freeflir29  (D 10000000)

Oct 2, 2001, 8:31 PM
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"take the redneck way out"

Being born and raised in Georgia I speak that language very well. Good idea! I have some at the house.

"The sky resembles a back lit canopy...with holes punched through it"- Incubus
Clay


Aviatrr  (D 27349)

Oct 2, 2001, 8:35 PM
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Being born and raised in Georgia I speak that language very well.
Hell, I grew up in Southern California, and for some strange reason, I speak redneck pretty well......and of course, my winter gloves have Shoo-Goo all over 'em.. Smile

Mike



mccordia  (D 94775)

Oct 3, 2001, 3:38 AM
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You might want to check out some of the sports-stores.
The sometimes have cheep-ass soccer gloves for the goaly/keeper.
Those gloves have rubber/ribbed stuff on the fingers and inside of palms that makes grabing onto balls real easy (not ment as dirty as that just sounded:) and should also help you in giving those risers a slight pull without them slipping from your hands..



Premier SkymonkeyONE  (D 12501)

Oct 3, 2001, 9:23 AM
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Lots of CReW dogs have foam sewn around the tops of their risers for easier "gripping". Still, what you might want to do is just move the damn dive loops on your risers since you are so dead-set on keeping the brakes right where they are. Do what feels best to you, my brother, but if were my rig, I would just loosen the brakes a tad so you don't porpoise in front risers.

Chuck



Tee  (C License)

Oct 3, 2001, 12:26 PM
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My girlfriend (also not as naughty as it sounds Wink ) is a real horse buff and when she and I were in a western store I came across some roping gloves. I got 2 pairs for $11 and they have small dabs/drops of rubber all over the palms and fingers. If you ever need gloves to hang on to a plane or your risers with, these certainly do the trick. They are quite thin though, so in winter, liners will be a must.

Tee



Premier PhreeZone  (D License)
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Oct 3, 2001, 12:59 PM
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I'm agreeing with Chuck here... If the brakes settings wont allow you to reach the front risers without deflecting the tail that could be a sign that they are not near the correct settings. When you are in full flight is there any tension on the steering lines? If they are not blowing due to the wind then the brakes are way too short and need let out by a bit. If the lines are under tension then of course you'll get a good glide rate in full flight since the canopy is actually flying in brakes at that point.

Be safe, be smooth, be fast..... and most importantly.... be phree Smile


freeflir29  (D 10000000)

Oct 3, 2001, 1:55 PM
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Phree- The brakes do have quite a bit of slack at full flight. I went through discovering how short they were and then lengthening them this summer. I'm about out of brake line now. By the time I tie 2 knots and the loop in it I'm pretty much out of line. I would have to get new lines put on at the eye to get them any longer. Plus I just love the way it glides when stick my arms straight out. It's perfect for swooping. Believe me, it takes some 100% brass to get a real swoop out of a PD-190. The only real swoop (20+ feet of level flight) I ever did about scared the shit out of me. I let the riser up at about 10 feet off the ground. Man was it sweet though! I may get Wendle to put some new lines on and tinker with it some more. I have to run it out in no wind right now so I would hate to see it with even longer brakes! I may also just look into getting a new canopy before long as I may have just about reached all the flight envelope edges with this one.

"The sky resembles a back lit canopy...with holes punched through it"- Incubus
Clay


jumpervali  (D 19338)

Oct 3, 2001, 8:15 PM
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I've got bicycle inner tube (about 3 inches) slipped over my front risers and sewn in place on my accuracy canopy. This has been an old trick for a lot of CREW dogs for years, and it works well.

jumpervali



Designer  (D 5771)

Oct 13, 2001, 10:48 AM
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Just by pure Accident I found something that works well.I,m sold on "Bike" gloves.They must have rough surface on palm and be second nuckle and above free of material.This grip just can,t be beat.I have several pair,one you can,t buy anymore that I keep sewing together.Fingertips can get cold!When it gets really cold you must wear full fingertip gloves and "Beware" that you are losing feel.Hope this helps,Rob.



mnischalke  (D 26290)

Oct 19, 2001, 4:07 PM
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I wanted to throw my two cents before this thread became an antique. I jump with SealSkinz gloves when it's cold. They are waterproof, quite thin, tight, have a hundred rubbery bumps on each paw and transfer the sense of touch amazingly.

Just my two cents.
mike



Grogs  (D 24265)

Oct 22, 2001, 6:36 AM
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By the time I tie 2 knots and the loop in it I'm pretty much out of line. I would have to get new lines put on at the eye to get them any longer.
Yeah, I'd say go for it. I had some new longer lower brake lines put on this Summer. All the rigger had to do was replace the line from the finger trap/eyelet down to the toggles, costing me a grand total of $15. The difference it made in canopy performance was incredible. Not only was I killing performance on riser turns because it was deflecting the tail, I was also defeating the whole purpose of the riser turn since the riser turns were distorting the canopy.




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