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Quagmirian  (A 110392)

Jun 18, 2013, 12:44 PM
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I don't know if this has already been posted, but it's only been up for two weeks.

Video Playlist

It's a nice video series that covers all malfunction scenarios. I don't know if this is a new series that's just been made or whether it's been around for ages and just uploaded recently. Maybe someone form Oz can help us out?


ChrisD  (No License)

Jun 18, 2013, 1:25 PM
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Smile

Great call:

Thanks!!!

C


Fuzzwah  (A License)

Jun 18, 2013, 2:25 PM
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It seems they've busted the playlist by removing one of the videos.

I recreated a working playlist here:

https://www.youtube.com/...X8WQwC8NlS-4-ogWOEAR


(This post was edited by Fuzzwah on Jun 18, 2013, 2:26 PM)


LavaLady  (F 387)

Jun 18, 2013, 8:24 PM
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It's new. From the Description:

"Cutaway! Australian Parachute Federation's malfunction training video is designed to be used as an educational supplement to the required first jump course.
Featuring demonstrations by Australian skydiving champion, Michael Vaughan, it shows the different types of malfunctions that can occur and how to deal with them effectively using emergency procedures.

Produced, Directed and Edited by Andrew Forsyth
Written by Don Cross, Ralf Jaeger and Gary Myors
Aerial Performances by Michael Vaughan
Director of Aerial Photography Shane Sparkes
Safety Skydiver and Hand Model Rob Douthat
Director of Photography Craig Hardiman
Sound Design by Andrew Forsyth & Post OP Group
Graphics by Andy Eisenberg & Andrew Forsyth

The APF wishes to thank the following for their generous support:
Glenn Singleman, Don Cross, Mike Carre, Michael Vaughan, Jules McConnel, Paul "Poo" Smith, Jai Campion, Jo Chitty, Nigel Brennan, Simon "Sas" DiSiascio

Executive Producer Don Cross. Chief Instructor Skydive Nagambie.

Produced by Pemberton Productions Pty. Ltd. 2013
Proudly presented by the Australian Parachute Federation"


Divalent  (C 40494)

Jun 19, 2013, 7:34 AM
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Fuzzwah wrote:
It seems they've busted the playlist by removing one of the videos.

I had no problems viewing all in the original playlist. (perhaps they fixed it after you made your comment).

This really should be cross posted in the Instructor's forum (with a more descriptive title).

IMO, getting some of those videos of actual mals took some real balls! I mean, who would actually volunteer to be the subject demonstrating how to fire your reserve into an actual horseshoe and into a PCIT?

They do teach the "cutaway-then-reserve" method for all mals (even hard/no pulls on the main), and the terminology/checklist they use for assessing your main after opening differs from what I was exposed to in the US. But these are great quality examples of the situations students need to be familar with and know how to handle. (And which more experienced jumper need to review from time to time). Most excellent.


nigel99  (D 1)

Jun 21, 2013, 3:19 AM
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Peter, never underestimate the craziness of people who do CRW. Read up on Michael he's an awesome jumper - was lucky enough to do a canopy course with him last month.

It's a brilliant video series.


degeneration  (C 106811)

Jun 21, 2013, 7:15 AM
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Nice videos!

I'm currently on chapter 5, but so far it seems every problem ever can be solved by "2 full flares"!


nigel99  (D 1)

Jun 22, 2013, 7:11 PM
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degeneration wrote:
Nice videos!

I'm currently on chapter 5, but so far it seems every problem ever can be solved by "2 full flares"!

Laugh I don't think that works on a PC in tow for some reason.


JeffCa  (C License)

Jun 23, 2013, 1:30 AM
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Divalent wrote:
IMO, getting some of those videos of actual mals took some real balls! I mean, who would actually volunteer to be the subject demonstrating how to fire your reserve into an actual horseshoe and into a PCIT?

What about waiting until 1,000 feet to pull, knowing that the reserve was also coming out?


nigel99  (D 1)

Jun 23, 2013, 3:12 AM
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JeffCa wrote:
Divalent wrote:
IMO, getting some of those videos of actual mals took some real balls! I mean, who would actually volunteer to be the subject demonstrating how to fire your reserve into an actual horseshoe and into a PCIT?

What about waiting until 1,000 feet to pull, knowing that the reserve was also coming out?

Which video? I missed that, but can't believe that was done. Are you sure an offset wasn't entered on the aad to simulate the situation?


JeffCa  (C License)

Jun 23, 2013, 5:25 AM
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nigel99 wrote:
JeffCa wrote:
Divalent wrote:
IMO, getting some of those videos of actual mals took some real balls! I mean, who would actually volunteer to be the subject demonstrating how to fire your reserve into an actual horseshoe and into a PCIT?

What about waiting until 1,000 feet to pull, knowing that the reserve was also coming out?

Which video? I missed that, but can't believe that was done. Are you sure an offset wasn't entered on the aad to simulate the situation?

It's in the 7th video, two times, but seems it's the same event doubled-up. Check it out at 0:45. What do you think of the altitude from looking at the ground? Looks low, but I'm not sure if it's 1,000 feet low. I guess a simulation makes more sense, but they've done a lot of crazy shit in those videos.


Squeak  (E 1313)

Jun 23, 2013, 5:36 PM
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"JeffCa wrote:
I guess a simulation makes more sense, but they've done a lot of crazy shit in those videos.

There's no "crazy shit" in any of the videos. the guy in the vids, is a professional skydiver HP canopy coach and test pilot.
As well as being arguably the best all round skydiver in the country.
Ill pretty much guarantee everything in those vids was very well planned in advance.
Michael is nobodies foolWink


(This post was edited by Squeak on Jun 23, 2013, 5:37 PM)


nigel99  (D 1)

Jun 23, 2013, 5:57 PM
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Squeak wrote:
"JeffCa wrote:
I guess a simulation makes more sense, but they've done a lot of crazy shit in those videos.

There's no "crazy shit" in any of the videos. the guy in the vids, is a professional skydiver HP canopy coach and test pilot.
As well as being arguably the best all round skydiver in the country.
Ill pretty much guarantee everything in those vids was very well planned in advance.
Michael is nobodies foolWink

A carefully planned, risk assessed horseshoe is still crazy shit, just not stupid shitWink

By the way, it things like these videos and the apf incident reports that go along way to show that our higher membership fees are worth every cent. There aren't many skydiving bodies that provide this quality of service to their members and the skydiving community at large.


Quagmirian  (A 110392)

Jun 23, 2013, 6:27 PM
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That reminds me, I was going to ask. Are these emergency procedures standard for every APF dropzone?


Squeak  (E 1313)

Jun 23, 2013, 6:29 PM
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Quagmirian wrote:
That reminds me, I was going to ask. Are these emergency procedures standard for every APF dropzone?

The APF has standarised training


Eddles  (C License)

Jun 30, 2013, 2:11 AM
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Sweet videos - they're getting downloaded!

I'm hoping someone will have subtitles or transcription for those videos somewhere, I'm deaf and don't understand the dialogue. Also would be useful for other deaf skydivers, present & future.


strife  (D 5457)

Jun 30, 2013, 3:52 AM
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Eddles

I might be telling you to suck eggs but have you tried turning on automatic captions in you tube.
https://support.google.com/.../answer/100078?hl=en

I just tried and it worked, but not sure if its what your looking for ?


AdD  (D License)

Jun 30, 2013, 6:20 AM
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Did anyone else think it a bit strange that AFP isn't recommending you throw or otherwise attempt to clear the PC in a horseshoe? Would be interested in hearing from AFP - AFF guys on this. Is the idea that you don't want to teach any variation in the EPs in the FJC?


Squeak  (E 1313)

Jun 30, 2013, 5:38 PM
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AdD wrote:
Is the idea that you don't want to teach any variation in the EPs in the FJC?

pretty much.


Eddles  (C License)

Jul 1, 2013, 2:05 PM
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strife wrote:
Eddles

I might be telling you to suck eggs but have you tried turning on automatic captions in you tube.
https://support.google.com/.../answer/100078?hl=en

I just tried and it worked, but not sure if its what your looking for ?

Good idea, unfortunately they have to be enabled by the owner of the video - which for these videos, doesn't seem to have been done. Also, if you read the captions on other videos, you'll quickly figure out that they're based on voice recognition and is usually very inaccurate with occasionally laughable results. If you chance on those rare videos with perfect captions, chances are that it was transcribed by a human operator. Good try, though!


strife  (D 5457)

Jul 1, 2013, 5:40 PM
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yeah worth a shot I should have turned off the sound and see if it made sense. I think all they have to do is transcribe it and add a txt file for you tube might be worth an email to the producer.


gregpso  (Student)

Jul 2, 2013, 12:57 AM
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Squeak wrote:
Quagmirian wrote:
That reminds me, I was going to ask. Are these emergency procedures standard for every APF dropzone?

The APF has standarised training

Way to go DON !! Excellent training tool
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AdD  (D License)

Jul 2, 2013, 5:24 AM
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@Squeak - Do you retrain this at some later point, ie A license EP review?


Squeak  (E 1313)

Jul 2, 2013, 7:15 AM
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AdD wrote:
@Squeak - Do you retrain this at some later point, ie A license EP review?
From my personal experience ONLY.
Im a nosy fuck and seek out information, I have sought out and learned variations on the basic AFF EP teachings.


AdD  (D License)

Jul 2, 2013, 7:25 AM
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I'm also a believer in keeping it simple for FJC, but at some point I think the variations need to be introduced so that people can make an informed decision.


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