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RobertMBlevins

Jan 31, 2013, 10:48 PM
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Robert99 says in part:

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'Jo, If you bothered reading this thread, you would know that I don't think any viable suspect has been named here. In fact, I doubt very much if anyone has the slightest idea who Cooper was. And that includes you, Blevins, Sailshaw, Marla, and everyone else.

Robert99...'

'And everyone else' is a pretty bold statement. If you don't believe anyone here has the slightest idea, then why do you continue to post here?

Think about it. Maybe you should go to wherever the place is where the 'real' suspects are. You're obviously wasting your time here, right? (*laughs*) Smile

No use hitting your head against the wall. Crazy

That post of yours gave me the best laugh I've had this month, no kidding.


(This post was edited by RobertMBlevins on Jan 31, 2013, 10:50 PM)




Amazon  (D License)

Feb 1, 2013, 1:20 AM
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The funny thing about antagonizing people is they tend to antagonize back Jo...

Trust me... certain people just IRK THE FCK out of me .. but if you let them get under your skin... you are the one who loses.Unsure


georger

Feb 1, 2013, 2:39 AM
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In reply to:
'And everyone else' is a pretty bold statement. If you don't believe anyone here has the slightest idea, then why do you continue to post here?

Think about it. Maybe you should go to wherever the place is where the 'real' suspects are. You're obviously wasting your time here, right? (*laughs*) Smile

No use hitting your head against the wall. Crazy

That post of yours gave me the best laugh I've had this month, no kidding.


LaughLaughCrazySmile

Yea! Ever wonder why Robert99 posts on this thread. Whoever he is! Obviously he is WASTING his time or is that EXACTLY why he is here. Infiltrate and destroy from within! In fact I do NOT believe I can remember him making a positive statement about anyone poster!

WHO is Robert99?
WHY is he posting here?
WHAT is his purpose?
DOES he have a suspect?

Does ANYONE else know why Robert99 posts here - other than to make negatives about other posters. Has Robert99 made and productive posts about any part of this old crime. Perhaps I only remember the negatives and the digs.

Certain won't offer to go back and see what GOOD he has offered - he HATES me - so who is he. Perhaps he is just a WRITER posting here to get material for a book or maybe even a made TV spoof?

Who is Robert99 and what are his contributions to any subject or to the facts of the crime or even theories as far as that goes?

If you have to ask who is Robt99 then maybe you
shouldn't be here! That's a little like asking who is
Sluggo, or Ckret, or 377, Amazon, or . . .


(This post was edited by georger on Feb 1, 2013, 2:40 AM)


Orange1  (B 2638)

Feb 1, 2013, 5:46 AM
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I'm beginning to remember why I left this thread Unsure


RobertMBlevins

Feb 1, 2013, 8:38 AM
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After some overnight thought, I guess it's normal to check the box marked 'None of the Above' on the current suspects.

No one can prove that any of them were Cooper.

I am wondering if Robert99 has any theories about the suspect, though. For example, does he trust the majority of the work by Tom Kaye? If so, which parts?


airtwardo  (D License)

Feb 1, 2013, 9:42 AM
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I'm beginning to remember why I left this thread Unsure

Sly Yup!


Robert99

Feb 1, 2013, 9:48 AM
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In reply to:
Robert99 says in part:

'And everyone else' is a pretty bold statement. If you don't believe anyone here has the slightest idea, then why do you continue to post here?

Think about it. Maybe you should go to wherever the place is where the 'real' suspects are. You're obviously wasting your time here, right? (*laughs*) Smile

No use hitting your head against the wall. Crazy

That post of yours gave me the best laugh I've had this month, no kidding.

Blevins, The above also applies to you. What are you doing here? You even admit that you don't know if your "suspect" is what you have claimed he is in books, internet articles, and your famous posts here on DZ.com.

As far as I can see, you haven't done anything to advance the search for Cooper. Your initial posts on this thread appeared to be solely to sell your book. And don't forget that you said about five times that you were leaving the thread. Nevertheless, in all but one case you were back the very next day and in two or three days in the other case. Were you just looking for love?

Sending the FBI and media a pile of rehashed baloney can best be viewed as a lame attempt to establish yourself as "a prominent Cooper researcher", a label you apparently covet.

Laugh on.

Georger has got your number.

Robert99


Robert99

Feb 1, 2013, 10:07 AM
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CrazySmile

Yea! Ever wonder why Robert99 posts on this thread. Whoever he is! Obviously he is WASTING his time or is that EXACTLY why he is here. Infiltrate and destroy from within! In fact I do NOT believe I can remember him making a positive statement about anyone poster!

WHO is Robert99?
WHY is he posting here?
WHAT is his purpose?
DOES he have a suspect?

Does ANYONE else know why Robert99 posts here - other than to make negatives about other posters. Has Robert99 made and productive posts about any part of this old crime. Perhaps I only remember the negatives and the digs.

Certain won't offer to go back and see what GOOD he has offered - he HATES me - so who is he. Perhaps he is just a WRITER posting here to get material for a book or maybe even a made TV spoof?

Who is Robert99 and what are his contributions to any subject or to the facts of the crime or even theories as far as that goes?

Jo, I don't HATE you, but I do think you are NUTS (sorry JC).

Blevins is an easy study. But you are different.

The REAL mystery of the Cooper thread is Jo Weber. Despite your protests to the contrary, you are here for some reason and it doesn't seem to have anything to do with finding the "truth" about Duane Weber.

Level with us Jo, what are you doing here? There has got to be something in it for you and it sure isn't Duane.

Robert99


Robert99

Feb 1, 2013, 10:33 AM
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After some overnight thought, I guess it's normal to check the box marked 'None of the Above' on the current suspects.

No one can prove that any of them were Cooper.

I am wondering if Robert99 has any theories about the suspect, though. For example, does he trust the majority of the work by Tom Kaye? If so, which parts?

Blevins, I do specifically recall having made some comments over the years about D.B. Cooper. But no comments about "the suspect", whatever you mean by that. You and Jo Weber apparently have zero retention about matters that don't support you candidates.

On the matter of Tom Kaye. I will defer to Tom Kaye and Georger on anything that involves a microscope or telescope. Otherwise, I will accept at face value anything Tom and Georger do until I have reasons not to.

However, I will not defer to Tom Kaye, Georger, Farflung, RobertMBlevins, or anyone else, on matters related to aircraft performance and flight dynamics.

And for the record, I am not aware of any disagreements between Tom, Georger, and myself on anything of substance.

Robert99


georger

Feb 1, 2013, 10:44 AM
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In reply to:
After some overnight thought, I guess it's normal to check the box marked 'None of the Above' on the current suspects.

No one can prove that any of them were Cooper.

I am wondering if Robert99 has any theories about the suspect, though. For example, does he trust the majority of the work by Tom Kaye? If so, which parts?

Blevins, I do specifically recall having made some comments over the years about D.B. Cooper. But no comments about "the suspect", whatever you mean by that. You and Jo Weber apparently have zero retention about matters that don't support you candidates.

On the matter of Tom Kaye. I will defer to Tom Kaye and Georger on anything that involves a microscope or telescope. Otherwise, I will accept at face value anything Tom and Georger do until I have reasons not to.

However, I will not defer to Tom Kaye, Georger, Farflung, RobertMBlevins, or anyone else, on matters related to aircraft performance and flight dynamics.

And for the record, I am not aware of any disagreements between Tom, Georger, and myself on anything of substance.

Robert99

And I second that.

Good answer.

My feeling is Tom would approve also.


Robert99

Feb 1, 2013, 10:57 AM
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There seems to be some lack of knowledge among several "prominent Cooper researchers" (by that, I mean Blevins, Jo Weber, Sailshaw, etc.) about how real research is done in the real world.

First, it is not a good idea to give your conclusions before you have done your research.

Second, look at all the "facts" (check your dictionary for the meaning) before drawing conclusions.

Third, don't write books about your "conclusions" before you have valid data supporting those conclusions.

Fourth, don't agree to appear on national television as an "expert" on some subject until you have at least some idea of what you are talking about. Marla, please note.

Finally, when valid facts emerge that prove you have been talking through your hat, it is an excerise in futility to keep repeating your BS with the hope that someone is dumb enough to give you the benefit of a doubt.

I'm sure that there are other qualified people on this thread who can add to the above.

Robert99


Orange1  (B 2638)

Feb 1, 2013, 11:54 AM
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In reply to:
There seems to be some lack of knowledge among several "prominent Cooper researchers" (by that, I mean Blevins, Jo Weber, Sailshaw, etc.) about how real research is done in the real world.

First, it is not a good idea to give your conclusions before you have done your research.

Second, look at all the "facts" (check your dictionary for the meaning) before drawing conclusions.

Third, don't write books about your "conclusions" before you have valid data supporting those conclusions.

Fourth, don't agree to appear on national television as an "expert" on some subject until you have at least some idea of what you are talking about. Marla, please note.

Finally, when valid facts emerge that prove you have been talking through your hat, it is an excerise in futility to keep repeating your BS with the hope that someone is dumb enough to give you the benefit of a doubt.

I'm sure that there are other qualified people on this thread who can add to the above.

Robert99

This is a great post. However, it will be completely ignored by the people it's aimed at. They have too much emotionally invested ...your other post also spot on when you said these two have zero retention on anything not related to their suspects.

Not sure quite how long I was away for, but it's been a long while, and it's quite depressing to come back to see Blevins sounding like a stuck record and Jo continuing to alternatively cast aspersions on people's motives/background or try get them to back off by feeling sorry for her. It's clear to me there's been progress on some things or theories at least judging from some of the discussion, but quite what they are is lost in the noise.

My husband can't believe I'm back on here Laugh


airtwardo  (D License)

Feb 1, 2013, 1:17 PM
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In reply to:
There seems to be some lack of knowledge among several "prominent Cooper researchers" (by that, I mean Blevins, Jo Weber, Sailshaw, etc.) about how real research is done in the real world.

First, it is not a good idea to give your conclusions before you have done your research.

Second, look at all the "facts" (check your dictionary for the meaning) before drawing conclusions.

Third, don't write books about your "conclusions" before you have valid data supporting those conclusions.

Fourth, don't agree to appear on national television as an "expert" on some subject until you have at least some idea of what you are talking about. Marla, please note.

Finally, when valid facts emerge that prove you have been talking through your hat, it is an excerise in futility to keep repeating your BS with the hope that someone is dumb enough to give you the benefit of a doubt.

I'm sure that there are other qualified people on this thread who can add to the above.

Robert99

There you go again with that logic stuff...Crazy


Will you NEVER learn?? Wink


Guru312  (C 6814)

Feb 1, 2013, 1:25 PM
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There you go again with that logic stuff...Crazy

Will you NEVER learn?? Wink

Yeah! What he said...




377  (F 666)

Feb 1, 2013, 1:46 PM
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Orange wrote
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My husband can't believe I'm back on here

Hey, when he married a jumper he shoulda known it wasnt gonna be a straight ahead fully predictable deal.

Didn't you fully disclose the risks?

He's lucky to have you and that your excursions are so harmless. Wink

377


(This post was edited by 377 on Feb 1, 2013, 2:27 PM)


377  (F 666)

Feb 1, 2013, 1:51 PM
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Jo wrote
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I do NOT believe in letting wrong doing go unpunished!

And how did you punish Duane for stealing coats, Kool Aid etc? I know I'm giving you a hard time, but I wanted to call you on your statement. I think you made a lot of exceptions for Duane.

Jo, you teased that the case would be closed soon. How soon and on what basis?

377


georger

Feb 1, 2013, 1:57 PM
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In reply to:
There you go again with that logic stuff...Crazy

Will you NEVER learn?? Wink

Yeah! What he said...

Care to elaborate? Is it the logic, the conveyor of, or ...?


Guru312  (C 6814)

Feb 1, 2013, 2:15 PM
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In reply to:
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There you go again with that logic stuff...Crazy

Will you NEVER learn?? Wink

Yeah! What he said...

Care to elaborate? Is it the logic, the conveyor of, or ...?

Mostly, I second almost anything Airtwardo posts because he's so old and wise. Of course, that's not very logical but it does fit with the reasoning expressed by many here. You being an exception to the norm, of course.




RobertMBlevins

Feb 1, 2013, 2:38 PM
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In reply to:
Robert99 says in part:

'And everyone else' is a pretty bold statement. If you don't believe anyone here has the slightest idea, then why do you continue to post here?

Think about it. Maybe you should go to wherever the place is where the 'real' suspects are. You're obviously wasting your time here, right? (*laughs*) Smile

No use hitting your head against the wall. Crazy

That post of yours gave me the best laugh I've had this month, no kidding.

Blevins, The above also applies to you. What are you doing here? You even admit that you don't know if your "suspect" is what you have claimed he is in books, internet articles, and your famous posts here on DZ.com.

As far as I can see, you haven't done anything to advance the search for Cooper. Your initial posts on this thread appeared to be solely to sell your book. And don't forget that you said about five times that you were leaving the thread. Nevertheless, in all but one case you were back the very next day and in two or three days in the other case. Were you just looking for love?

Sending the FBI and media a pile of rehashed baloney can best be viewed as a lame attempt to establish yourself as "a prominent Cooper researcher", a label you apparently covet.

Laugh on.

Georger has got your number.

Robert99

Okay...I probably deserved that, but there are a few things I'd like to mention in my defense.

First, I never claimed to be a Cooper expert, or even a Cooper researcher. I'm mostly a sci-fi novelist and book editor who reluctantly accepted the job of interviewing everyone that could be found who knew Kenny Christiansen. I have some experience doing interviews and having them published. Plus, unlike Skipp Porteous, I lived in the same area where these people lived who knew KC.

Second...I'm not here to sell anyone on the book. 95% of sales come through the Ingram Catalog, which is a private catalog (online and print) provided to wholesalers, retailers, and bookstore managers. The remainder of sales come mainly through Amazon. If a hundred people posting here each bought a book, I would make exactly a hundred bucks, (50% of total royalties) which isn't much after three years of posts, right? We get that much via Amazon alone in a week. Also...I've offered the book up for free to anyone who posts here as long as they email me. The file is too big to post in PDF here, because of the pictures.

Third, I think I have contributed in a few small ways to the search for Cooper. Remember, I wasn't the first one to investigate Christiansen. Geoff Gray did that. I only took it further. And I still don't completely buy the FBI's explanation on the Amboy chute and I think my article about it is solid.

Finally...the reason I say I don't know if KC was the hijacker is HONESTY. I just don't know for sure. Geestman's lies, along with the available circumstantial evidence, make me believe something is there, but without a smoking gun I have to be honest about it. I don't know.

NOTE: Sending the FBI the 16 documents, the pictures, and the PDF report wasn't 'rehashing'. Until I did that, I had not actually condensed the case against Christiansen into a solid document they could read in a reletively short time. And the reason I waited was because I had to check a few other things out until I felt we had all that we were going to get on Christiansen. It was an ongoing process.

I left a for a day or two a few times because I thought if I didn't cool off, I'd end up like Meyer Louie...who by the way I think should be allowed to return.

Sincerely, Robert


(This post was edited by RobertMBlevins on Feb 1, 2013, 2:40 PM)




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