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Trev_S  (B 7866)

Jan 10, 2013, 12:27 AM
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I'm looking at getting an N3 audible alti. Is anybody able to clarify something for me?

The N3 audio requires earbuds for audio whereas the standard N3 does not as it has a speaker. Does the standard N3 still read "break off break off" "deploy deploy" and give you the option to read out 12,000ft 11,000ft etc as you decend or is that only available with the N3 audio?

http://www.chutingstar.com/skydive/n3
http://www.chutingstar.com/skydive/n3-audio

Has anyone been able to permanently mount a good quality speaker in their helmet for this purpose? I have some I use in my bike helmet but can't hear shit at 100km+ so pretty useless in freefall and I'd prefer speakers over earbuds that would be a nuisance and could fall out.


IanHarrop  (C 1152)

Jan 10, 2013, 6:46 AM
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The standard N3 does not emit "verbal" sounds. It does however emit a series of tones

You can read about it in the manual here http://forum.altimaster.com/...php?do=file&id=5

Page 19 has detailed information on the alarms available on the N3

You can also post questions about Alti-2 products here: http://forum.altimaster.com/forum.php


(This post was edited by IanHarrop on Jan 10, 2013, 6:50 AM)


Trev_S  (B 7866)

Jan 10, 2013, 12:32 PM
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Ahh awesome. Thanks, Ian.


NeonLights  (D License)

Jan 10, 2013, 2:53 PM
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I emailed alti-2 about voice tones yesterday. From what i understood in the response email it said you can make custom and pick which ever tone you want.


NoCoSkyDiver  (B License)

Jan 10, 2013, 4:30 PM
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I use the n3 audible with the following speakers : http://www.amazon.com/Tork-Motorcycle-Helmet-Speakers-Control/dp/B004I6HOQA/ref=pd_sbs_auto_2

Sorry, do not know how to clickify. The speakers have Velcro on the back and rest on the padding directly against the ear. Can hear fine in freefall. I tried different speakers between padding and helmet and could not hear anything in freefall.


strife  (D 5457)

Jan 10, 2013, 5:22 PM
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Trev I have a N3A I havent played with if you want to have a look at Picton when Im there next


Trev_S  (B 7866)

Jan 10, 2013, 7:26 PM
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In reply to:
I use the n3 audible with the following speakers : http://www.amazon.com/Tork-Motorcycle-Helmet-Speakers-Control/dp/B004I6HOQA/ref=pd_sbs_auto_2

Sorry, do not know how to clickify. The speakers have Velcro on the back and rest on the padding directly against the ear. Can hear fine in freefall. I tried different speakers between padding and helmet and could not hear anything in freefall.

I had a set like that in my bike helmet. Worked OK but outside noise at speed made it hard to hear. I might try them and if it's no good I'll just use earbuds or even get moulded iplugz.

In reply to:
Trev I have a N3A I havent played with if you want to have a look at Picton when Im there next

That'd be great. I'm usually there most weekends if the weathers good :). Is your name Cam?


VectorBoy  (F 321)

Jan 10, 2013, 8:12 PM
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 I have the N3A hooked up with $20 Moto-Com( USA) speakers. It plays music via an Ipod shuffle. Has a user created sound bite for ascending thru 1K, or a snippet of silence in my case. They are fairly loud under canopy without the pod being turned up to max. This would depend on your source MP3 I bet. I get a nice female voice reading off altitude in 1k increments ( bare in mind under the slow canopy descent.)then the 1500-1000-500 foot downwind, base and final announcements in that same voice.

This is in a custom helmet used strictly for CRW video. I venture for free fall I might need in the ear bud type speakers or much more expensive headsets stripped down to the bare driver for use at 120 MPH sound levels to hear the alarms.

The thing about all of the standard alarm audibles regardless of brand is that the alarm is thru a piercing peizo element that is very easy to hear at most surrounding sound levels. That can't be said of soundbites you program thru a system also designed to play music in the back ground. You will be doing a lot of testing of various drivers or possibly earbuds depending on what you want it to do.


strife  (D 5457)

Jan 10, 2013, 8:50 PM
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Yep


Trev_S  (B 7866)

Jan 10, 2013, 9:57 PM
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Ordered the tork speakers, if they don't do the trick then I'll just use em in bike helmet.

Thanks all for the info.


IanHarrop  (C 1152)

Jan 11, 2013, 6:45 AM
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In reply to:
I emailed alti-2 about voice tones yesterday. From what i understood in the response email it said you can make custom and pick which ever tone you want.

Using the NMU software:
On the N3 you can design your own series of tone alarms
On the N3A you can record your own voice alarms

Be aware that at this time the NMU software only runs on Windows


chemist  (A License)

Oct 5, 2013, 1:41 PM
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NoCoSkyDiver wrote:
I use the n3 audible with the following speakers : http://www.amazon.com/Tork-Motorcycle-Helmet-Speakers-Control/dp/B004I6HOQA/ref=pd_sbs_auto_2

Sorry, do not know how to clickify. The speakers have Velcro on the back and rest on the padding directly against the ear. Can hear fine in freefall. I tried different speakers between padding and helmet and could not hear anything in freefall.

do you have an open face or closed face helmet?


chemist  (A License)

Oct 5, 2013, 2:04 PM
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did anyone ever answer your question? I'm trying to find some speakers for N3A for an open face


roostnureye  (D 32166)

Oct 8, 2013, 12:13 PM
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i use "chatterbox" speakers from a motorcycle helmet communication system. i had to turn the volume down for my alarms. i have a full face cookie gas. also i am deaf in one ear so i cut off one speaker.


Trev_S  (B 7866)

Oct 15, 2013, 7:04 PM
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chemist wrote:
did anyone ever answer your question? I'm trying to find some speakers for N3A for an open face

the tork speakers work great in my cookie ozone with n3a. no problems hearing it.



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