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Amazon  (D License)

Dec 10, 2012, 10:24 AM
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Please don't be crushed....... nope

the one on the site you gaveCool do you need to wear glasses when viewing on your lappy? or just certain vids?


Nope.. did not watch that one either....And no I did not watch the video from Ariel either. LaughLaugh

Yes you do need to watch with the glasses.. you get used to it.. really. Then again. I have to use glasses to read my monitor. I used to have stupendous eyesight but alas.. one of the penalties of surviving this long appears to be degraded vision.

I also need to use another set of glaases to watch my Sony 3D LED TV. The glasses are a function of the technology at this point.

sounds good but I think I will pass on that one, if I make videos of my simulation peeps would also need to have those glasses, not just the ordinary 3D glasses. probably go with a Nvidia gtx660, 640 card, not sure yet. still shopping Sly

You do realize.. it will work just fine in 2D mode... but when you want 3D turn it on and get WOWed



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As a side note.. there are people doing 3D skydiving vids for the last 5 years.

Different glasses and technology... it is getting better.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G37WCShxQBc


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnFN6Xg8M_M


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Amazon  (D License)

Dec 10, 2012, 10:29 AM
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I will give anyone the benefit of the doubt, even Jo Weber, as long as they aren't deliberately making stuff up to further a means to an end. You can be wrong, but lying is something else entirely. Have to draw the line somewhere. There's enough BS going on the Cooper case already.

Blevins, How do you personally determine if someone isn't "deliberately making stuff up to further a means to an end"?

Would you care to offer some names of the people who are responsible for all the BS that is already on the Cooper case? Don't be modest.

Robert99

You mean like LSD boy??


Robert99

Dec 10, 2012, 10:30 AM
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Then again. I have to use glasses to read my monitor. I used to have stupendous eyesight but alas.. one of the penalties of surviving this long appears to be degraded vision.

Amazon, You have probably done this already, but if not, get an appointment with a good eye doctor for a complete evaluation.

As a teenager and for two or three decades after that, I had 20/20 or better distance vision. Thanks to some skilled eye surgeons and lasers, I still have essentially 20/20 distance vision. But I also need some strong glasses for reading.

And I have survived a lot longer than you have.

Robert99


Robert99

Dec 10, 2012, 10:40 AM
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I will give anyone the benefit of the doubt, even Jo Weber, as long as they aren't deliberately making stuff up to further a means to an end. You can be wrong, but lying is something else entirely. Have to draw the line somewhere. There's enough BS going on the Cooper case already.

Blevins, How do you personally determine if someone isn't "deliberately making stuff up to further a means to an end"?

Would you care to offer some names of the people who are responsible for all the BS that is already on the Cooper case? Don't be modest.

Robert99

You mean like LSD boy??

You mean that a snort of LSD or smoking a joint opens the door to "true wisdom"?

I must confess again that I have apparently led a very sheltered life. I have never even seen any illegal drugs much less use any of them.

Robert99


mrshutter45

Dec 10, 2012, 11:01 AM
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Please don't be crushed....... nope

the one on the site you gaveCool do you need to wear glasses when viewing on your lappy? or just certain vids?


Nope.. did not watch that one either....And no I did not watch the video from Ariel either. LaughLaugh

Yes you do need to watch with the glasses.. you get used to it.. really. Then again. I have to use glasses to read my monitor. I used to have stupendous eyesight but alas.. one of the penalties of surviving this long appears to be degraded vision.

I also need to use another set of glaases to watch my Sony 3D LED TV. The glasses are a function of the technology at this point.

sounds good but I think I will pass on that one, if I make videos of my simulation peeps would also need to have those glasses, not just the ordinary 3D glasses. probably go with a Nvidia gtx660, 640 card, not sure yet. still shopping Sly

You do realize.. it will work just fine in 2D mode... but when you want 3D turn it on and get WOWed



edited to add....
As a side note.. there are people doing 3D skydiving vids for the last 5 years.

Different glasses and technology... it is getting better.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G37WCShxQBc


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnFN6Xg8M_M

as Johnny Carson often said, "I did not know that" Cool Hmmm, I'll take a better look at the Nvidia 3D system, this is why I wanted you to view the video on that site, it was pretty clear and no need for glasses.

had to break out the glasses for those vids Cool


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RobertMBlevins

Dec 10, 2012, 12:06 PM
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Robert 99 says in part:
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'Blevins, How do you personally determine if someone isn't "deliberately making stuff up to further a means to an end"?

Would you care to offer some names of the people who are responsible for all the BS that is already on the Cooper case? Don't be modest...'

On your first question, usually by fact-checking or interviewing them, or...by catching them in outright lies. Or...by examining their Facebook posts, which can sometimes reveal a lot about someone.

Second question: Marla and BK come to mind immediately.

Meyer Louie says in part:

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'I must admit Blevins, that thought has crossed my mind -- are you jealous? You came around like 3 or so years ago, you were here for such a short time, then you co-wrote a book and you appeared on the History Channel -- and somehow I get the feeling you think all that automatically puts you in the "DB Cooper Hall of Fame." You have repeated yourself and your theory so many times you've lost pretty much all credibility...'

Well, it's better than coming aboard and then changing your story constantly. I've made a few errors, but the basic theory has always remained constant. I've explored other things here that have nothing to do with whether or not KC was the hijacker, such as the Tena Bar money and the Amboy chute. The only person who belongs in the Cooper Hall of Fame so far is Snownman, IMHO. I've read his posts. Jealous of anyone, NO. Hard on people who BS on the Cooper case just for personal gratification, or to fit the square peg to the round Cooper suspect hole? YES.

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'Moreover, I have seen you react, almost violently, to anyone who's thinking about coming out with a book. There's Marla, then there's Galen Cook, and there's Bruce Smith. You seem so threatened and jealous of anyone who might get something over on you or who might get more notoriety than you. I don't think anyone asked for your opinion on what Bruce should call his book. Bruce can spreak for himself, but it seems your advice and criticism of Bruce's work were totally unsolicited. That's so blatantly arrogant, Blevins. Lighten up!! Quit trying so hard...'

I think Bruce should not copy the title of Geoff Gray's book. And yes, I read what he has so far and I think he needs an editor. But then all writers need an editor, even I get edited. Both those suggestions were professional advice to Bruce. It's cheesy to ride someone else's coattails by using the title of THEIR book, especially when they are about the same subject. How about 'The Search for DB Cooper'? One practical reason is because of the way books are cataloged with their ISBN and on Amazon/internet searches. If your book is titled close to another in the same subject, some of your sales will go to the OTHER book. On editing: Most people think editing means 'cut and slash' on a manuscript, when in reality it means 'clean up and improve'.

You probably noticed I hinted to Bruce that I might be willing to help him release his book in six/nine paperback and for the Kindle. Since I know Bruce isn't any richer than I am, I would have to do this for free. And not so AB of Seattle would publish it, but so HE could publish it on his own via Kindle and maybe Lightning Source for paperback. Establishing accounts at both those venues is free. Then they pay you once a month. That's not jealousy. That's helping him reach his goal. In my thinking, Bruce's upcoming book is just fine with me because it's based on truth. And remember: Bruce ASKED for comments. So I gave him my honest opinion. Needs an editor - change the title a bit.

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'I met you Blevins. In real life you're a nice, respectful, and kind person -- I saw it with my own eyes. Why don't you try to be that person here? Nobody will fault you for that, and you just might get a better, more respectful response from people around here. Just be yourself. You can be a really good guy, Blevins...'

I do try most of the time. Once in a while even I get tired of being insulted, although lately that is mostly one person anyway. I've pretty much put him on my ignore-that-post list.

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'Earning respect takes time. Only people who've been around for a long time and who have earned a good reputation by their body of work deserve our respect. And you will get no respect if you have no credibility and if you have not "put in your time and paid your dues...."

I disagree with this statement. Suppose tomorrow a new person posted up here with 100% definitive proof on who was DB Cooper. I mean irrefutable evidence that even the FBI supports, to the point they declare the case solved. THAT person would be respected beyond everyone else. If you are basing respect on 'body of work,' mine is less than some, more than others. The Amboy chute, Marla sheet-pulling, or coming up with the best way for Cook to prove or disprove his case on Gossett. (Interviewing the servicemen Gossett actually worked with at Fort Lewis at the time of the crime) Other stuff, I suppose. There are others who have done a lot more, of course. Snownman comes to mind right away. He's The Man, as they say. Others in line for that Hall of Fame are Himmelsbach, (spent the rest of his career on the case) Tosaw, and a few others. I'm WAY down the list from those guys.

Oh, I almost forgot.

Seattle Seahawks - 58 Arizona Cardinals - ZEEE-ROW.

Ha ha ha. Cool

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"How do you like us NOW?"


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MeyerLouie

Dec 10, 2012, 12:22 PM
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nothing personal, just seems far fetched to think you hold the key to this crazy case we call DB Cooper, many claim Marla is nuts, Jo is nuts, cook is nuts etc etc.......Cool

For the record:

I don't think Marla is nuts. I think she has ADD and is an opportunist.

I don't believe Jo is nuts, either. She could even be right. But you need evidence to prove a case, or at least some witnesses who might be able to further that case a bit.

Cook isn't nuts. But he's motivated to somehow prove Gossett was the hijacker, even if he has go out on some nutty limbs in the attempt. The Janet Fable, etc. All the guy has to really do is interview the people who worked with Gossett at Fort Lewis around the time of the hijacking, and he hasn't done that. This is counterproductive to his appearances on Coast-to-Coast radio, since he might find out that Gossett was Present and Accounted For at the time of the crime. Can't have that happen...Crazy

Everyone is nuts except RobertMBlevins aka 'Marilyn
Monroe'.

Blevins is just jealous and in need of a personality
transplant!

Sly

I must admit Blevins, that thought has crossed my mind -- are you jealous? You came around like 3 or so years ago, you were here for such a short time, then you co-wrote a book and you appeared on the History Channel -- and somehow I get the feeling you think all that automatically puts you in the "DB Cooper Hall of Fame." You have repeated yourself and your theory so many times you've lost pretty much all credibility.

Moreover, I have seen you react, almost violently, to anyone who's thinking about coming out with a book. There's Marla, then there's Galen Cook, and there's Bruce Smith. You seem so threatened and jealous of anyone who might get something over on you or who might get more notoriety than you. I don't think anyone asked for your opinion on what Bruce should call his book. Brue can spreak for himself, but it seems your advice and criticism of Bruce's work were totally unsolicited. That's so blatantly arrogant, Blevins. Lighten up!! Quit trying so hard.

I met you Blevins. In real life you're a nice, respectful, and kind person -- I saw it with my own eyes. Why don't you try to be that person here? Nobody will fault you for that, and you just might get a better, more respectful response from people around here. Just be yourself. You can be a really good guy, Blevins.

Earning respect takes time. Only people who've been around for a long time and who have earned a good reputation by their body of work deserve our respect. And you will get no respect if you have no credibility and if you have not "put in your time and paid your dues."

I have another point to make Blevins. For some reason you think you are on the same level as Georger and others. Well, you're not. Co-writing a book and appearing on Decoded does not make you an expert. Some folks here are playing in the Big League with the big boys. You aren't there yet. Spending years and years on this case, interfacing with the FBI and the key players on a regular basis, for years, make one an expert -- makes one "Cooper royalty" if you will. There are only a handful of people in this elite group. You're not there yet -- and you want to be so badly. Give it time Blevins. Try to be credible, offer up your stuff in a respectful way, back it up with quotes, citations, references. Your unfounded, ridiculous assumptions continue to destroy your credibility. Some people here, who have been here for years, think you're a total idiot. That's going to be tough to overcome. Quit locking horns with Georger, you are not in his league! Give it time, quit trying so hard. Gee Blevins, c'mon. I've seen the good guy, let him come out.

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RobertMBlevins

Dec 10, 2012, 12:58 PM
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Meyer Louie says in part:

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'I have another point to make Blevins. For some reason you think you are on the same level as Georger and others. Well, you're not. Co-writing a book and appearing on Decoded does not make you an expert. Some folks here are playing in the Big League with the big boys. You aren't there yet. Spending years and years on this case, interfacing with the FBI and the key players on a regular basis, for years, make one an expert -- makes one "Cooper royalty" if you will. There are only a handful of people in this elite group. You're not there yet -- and you want to be so badly. Give it time Blevins. Try to be credible, offer up your stuff in a respectful way, back it up with quotes, citations, references. Your unfounded, ridiculous assumptions continue to destroy your credibility. Some people here, who have been here for years, think you're a total idiot. That's going to be tough to overcome. Quit locking horns with Georger, you are not in his league! Give it time, quit trying so hard. Gee Blevins, c'mon. I've seen the good guy, let him come out...'

And yet...none of those people you mentioned have been able to solve the case, even after all those years of working on it. I don't care what posters on an internet forum think of me. I do care what the people I know in real life think of me. To a certain extent.

See, here's the Real Deal: I never claimed to be a Cooper Expert, and that book was probably my one and only (supposedly) non-fiction work. But that book really isn't about DB Cooper, it's about Kenny Christiansen and whatever evidence exists on him as it relates to the Cooper case. Wasn't even an idea I thought up on my own. Let's face it...the groundwork was done by Geoff Gray and Skipp Porteous. If it's proven later that KC was definitely NOT DB Cooper, then I probably would stop posting here anyway. There wouldn't be any purpose to it because I'm not really interested in pursuing the case any further than I have already. I'm not a crime investigator or crime writer, like Ann Rule. I'm just Robert the Sci Fi Guy who Occasionally Edits Books. When I'm not doing that, I'm out in the mountains or something listening to Mariner or Seahawk games or MP3's of old radio shows like 'Dimension X' or 'X-Minus-1'. Or popping off my .45 S/W or that 30/30 Winnie I love so much. That's who I am, nothing more.

Look, if I considered myself Cooper Royalty I would have showed up at the Portland Symposium with my slideshow gear and countered Marla's claims with some of my own. Or, I would have gone around at Ariel saying, "I'm the guy who wrote that Cooper book..." Mostly I try to stay anonymous. I may go to the 2013 Symposium in Tacoma, but unless something new emerges on KC, then I'm just going to be in the audience.

On Georger: He jumps on every post I make, no matter what it is. So IMHO his credibility, his opinions, mean zip to me. You have to pick and choose when to jump down someone's throat, and that should be for 'ridiculous assumptions' only, not because you just don't like someone. So I don't care what he says. That situation probably isn't going to get any better. We've both been banned twice now, mostly for arguing. These days I either ignore his posts, or respond to them in a comedic manner, rather than getting angry. Once in a while he brings up a sensible point on something without insults, and then I will answer that normally, more or less.


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mrshutter45

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where exactly has Georger lost credibility? I'll admit I don't have half the knowledge G does, the personal battle you guys has carried on too far, but I still wouldn't put his credibility on the line over this.

perhaps giving the time frame we are in (Holiday's) it just might be appropriate for a cease fire similar to what the Brits and Germans did during Christmas in 19 hundred and fourteen? Angelic


RobertMBlevins

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where exactly has Georger lost credibility? I'll admit I don't have half the knowledge G does, the personal battle you guys has carried on too far, but I still wouldn't put his credibility on the line over this.

perhaps giving the time frame we are in (Holiday's) it just might be appropriate for a cease fire similar to what the Brits and Germans did during Christmas in 19 hundred and fourteen? Angelic

Suppose I made fun of every post by one particular person on this thread, even if the point was legit. (BK excluded) People would soon start ignoring me, or think I had an agenda.

On the other hand, I get insulted a lot just for bringing up legit questions. For example, when I questioned the results of the FBI's investigation (if you can call it that) into the Amboy chute. Or when I showed pretty good reasons why Marla was full of it, and kept changing her story?

My credibility would suffer, because people would say I was doing that solely to 'push' KC as the only suspect. You see...you have to pick and choose about slamming on someone's claims. You can't just slam everything solely because you don't like someone personally. I've tried to lead by example with Georger, but he hasn't gotten the hint. If you look back, sometimes he makes points and I actually agree with him. This proves I'm not necesarily slanted against him personally. You have to keep it non-personal, whenever possible. 'Just the facts, ma'am' as the saying goes.

I didn't 'drive Marla Cooper away'. I pointed out flaws in her story, and everyone knows I even tried to help her by urging her to get her other family members to stand up on portions of her story...the ones who were there on that Thanksgiving. For some reason, a lot of people saw that as an attack on Marla when it was not. Same thing with my suggestion that Cook interview the servicemen who served alongside William Gossett at Fort Lewis at the time of the hijacking. This seemed like an obvious course for Cook, something he should have done from the very beginning. Yet...some saw that as an attack, as well. The Amboy chute, same thing. If you look at that story, the FBI's investigation on it just doesn't add up. Why wasn't Kaye's team allowed access to it? Why did the FBI quote Earl Cossey as saying it was silk, not nylon, and that is the reason it couldn't come from Cooper? Why did they try saying it probably belonged to Lt. Walling...when a simple fact-check would show the chute was made AFTER his jump, and that he jumped in a different area anyway? Where are the container and harness? Why weren't independent people in the Puget Sound skydiving community offered a chance to examine it and publish the results?

Those are legit questions, yet Georger jumped on every one of them. Credibility. A lack of an open mind on legit questions. Not answering those questions and going with personal insults instead. That's my opinion on it, anyway.

Christmas cease-fire? Okay with me. I don't hate the guy. I've never met him. And I do have a certain amount of respect for the work he's done.


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well, let's ask this, why are you here? "My credibility would suffer, because people would say I was doing that solely to 'push' KC as the only suspect"

now just a post or two above you said this: "If it's proven later that KC was definitely NOT DB Cooper, then I probably would stop posting here anyway."

it's ok to have a suspect such as you have, but I don't understand why you would leave if KC is found not being Cooper? this tells me you are not a Cooper investigator and probably shouldn't be on here because most of the evidence against him has been challenged here. Jo also falls in this category but has been at much longer than most.

if you were to ask me, I think your "agenda" seems to be surrounding KC?

sorry, I'm a little confused Cool


RobertMBlevins

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well, let's ask this, why are you here? "My credibility would suffer, because people would say I was doing that solely to 'push' KC as the only suspect"

now just a post or two above you said this: "If it's proven later that KC was definitely NOT DB Cooper, then I probably would stop posting here anyway."

it's ok to have a suspect such as you have, but I don't understand why you would leave if KC is found not being Cooper? this tells me you are not a Cooper investigator and probably shouldn't be on here because most of the evidence against him has been challenged here. Jo also falls in this category but has been at much longer than most.

if you were to ask me, I think your "agenda" seems to be surrounding KC?

sorry, I'm a little confused Cool

'Probably would stop posting here anyway' could be an exaggeration. More like, wouldn't post up so much unless I had something important to add to the investigation. If KC were proven NOT to be the guy, most of my work would be complete anyway. As I said, I'm not a Cooper Expert.

On the challenging of the evidence, that's normal. But then no one else has questioned the people I have named as witnesses, either. I left that option open by naming them publicly, all except Bernie's sister, and a good investigator could find her easily.


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mrshutter45

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nothing wrong with you having KC as a suspect, I strongly disagree with most of your findings just as I have done with Jo, I am far from perfect myself, so I do appreciate the work you are sending the FBI, just don't get those hopes up too high Cool


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nothing wrong with you having KC as a suspect, I strongly disagree with most of your findings just as I have done with Jo, I am far from perfect myself, so I do appreciate the work you are sending the FBI, just don't get those hopes up too high Cool

I'll be lucky if Eng doesn't just glance at everything and then toss the whole package into the garbage can...Unsure


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mrshutter45

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nothing wrong with you having KC as a suspect, I strongly disagree with most of your findings just as I have done with Jo, I am far from perfect myself, so I do appreciate the work you are sending the FBI, just don't get those hopes up too high Cool

I'll be lucky if Eng doesn't just glance at them and toss them into the garbage can...

one can only try! take my simulation for example, if nothing is found I will brush myself off and climb right back on that horse and try another angle to provide some sort of evidence Cool at least you can say you tried!

maybe I should change my project name to the "Enterprise" and boldly go where one man has gone before CoolWink


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377  (F 666)

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...Marla sheet-pulling

Care to explain that term Robert? Wink

377


377  (F 666)

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Mr Shutter wrote:
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maybe I should change my project name to the "Enterprise" and boldly go where one man has gone before

One man has gone there before, and it was no simulation.

377


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...Marla sheet-pulling

Care to explain that term Robert? Wink

377

Catching her cheesy Facebook postings, catching her switching up the dropzone her father allegedly told her from Oregon to Washington, (after being reminded about the money on Tena Bar) switching the vehicle from an MG to 'maybe they drove a truck,' when reminded about Forest Service roads in wintertime....stuff like that. There's more.

The term 'pulling the sheets' on someone refers (in a general way) to revealing someone's BS.


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mrshutter45

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maybe I should change my project name to the "Enterprise" and boldly go where one man has gone before

One man has gone there before, and it was no simulation.

377

very perceptive......


377  (F 666)

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Farflung has proved again and again, by providing concrete examples, that whuffo skyjackers can make a jet jump and land alive.

I continue to ignore this evidence and focus on the perfectly qualified candidates such as Ted Braden and Sheridan Peterson. Why do I act irrationally?

In an earlier post I wrote
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The Cooper story created a huge buzz in the skydiving community (in 1971). The consensus was that he HAD to be a jumper and it was just a matter of figuring out which one. Speculation ran wild and many names were thrown around. There was almost a hope that Cooper was a skydiver as it would be humiliating for something so wild and cool to have been successfully executed by a mere whuffo.

Although it would arguably reflect badly on the skydiving community if Cooper, a felon, turned out to be one of us, I bet in their hearts most jumpers hope that he was.

Many if not most old school jumpers kinda like the cool bad boy outlaw image of skydivers and DB Cooper sure nailed that one.

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skyjack71

Dec 10, 2012, 5:17 PM
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Loose track of who said what, but I agree with the posters of the following statement:

"I don't think Marla is nuts. I think she has ADD and is an opportunist".

""I don't believe Jo is nuts, either. She could even be right. But you need evidence to prove a case, or at least some witnesses who might be able to further that case a bit.

"Cook isn't nuts. But he's motivated to somehow prove Gossett was the hijacker, even if he has go out on some nutty limbs in the attempt."

"I must admit Blevins, that thought has crossed my mind -- are you jealous? You came around like 3 or so years ago, you were here for such a short time, then you co-wrote a book and you appeared on the History Channel -- and somehow I get the feeling you think all that automatically puts you in the "DB Cooper Hall of Fame." You have repeated yourself and your theory so many times you've lost pretty much all credibility".

" You seem so threatened and jealous of anyone who might get something over on you or who might get more notoriety than you."

"Earning respect takes time. Only people who've been around for a long time and who have earned a good reputation by their body of work deserve our respect."

"I have another point to make Blevins. For some reason you think you are on the same level as Georger and others. Well, you're not. Co-writing a book and appearing on Decoded does not make you an expert. Some folks here are playing in the Big League with the big boys. You aren't there yet. Spending years and years on this case, interfacing with the FBI and the key players on a regular basis, for years, make one an expert -- makes one "Cooper royalty" if you will."

I do NOT really like to repeat things, but I thought the statements above sum up what has been going on with the thread. We are going to loose our VOICE (if the thread ends) and that would be a terrible loss.

The sharing of information and theories and word of mouth on this thread - may be the ONLY way the public will ever know who Cooper was. I (JO) try to stay neutral, but some individuals will come in an make statements that encite and some of them HURT. This kind of thing - I have heard about causing suicides on face book and all of those other sites kids go to.

We are supposed to be a group of adults who should ACT like ADULTS. The only thing Blevins does I totally disapprove of is promoting his BOOK. Galen does NOT post here - but, all of us wish we knew what he was up to.
Smile If he did post here - he would not be spending time defending himself - he would come in post his opinion and summary and WALK away. That is just Cook.

Geoffry Gray never posted here, but he wrote a book that has been read around the world. I feel Blevins should think about this. (
Note for Belvins -Promoting your stand on your book on this thread is NOT going to make you creditable - infact you have destroyed your credibilaty with some of your posts. Me I am exploring what ifs and I am not writing a book, just seeking the truths and HOPE beyond ALL HOPE that someone some place just might read about Weber and produce that piece of evidence the FBI need to look at him with some serious investigation or force the FBI to reveal what they have - or had in 1998 to dismiss him.

IF the FBI had been POSITIVE regarding Weber NOT being Cooper when they wrote that letter to me (2 paragraphs) in 1998 dismissing Weber based on prints alone....WHY did they then in 2003 ASK for DNA. Even more puzzling is WHY they did NOT test the DNA until 2007


(This post was edited by skyjack71 on Dec 10, 2012, 6:20 PM)


RobertMBlevins

Dec 10, 2012, 6:07 PM
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Sure you don't mean 2008? The Amboy chute was found in February/March of 2008.


skyjack71

Dec 10, 2012, 6:09 PM
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In reply to:

Catching her cheesy Facebook postings, catching her switching up the dropzone her father allegedly told her from Oregon to Washington, (after being reminded about the money on Tena Bar) switching the vehicle from an MG to 'maybe they drove a truck,' when reminded about Forest Service roads in wintertime....stuff like that. There's more.

The term 'pulling the sheets' on someone refers (in a general way) to revealing someone's BS.

I thought everyone knew what SHEET PULLING was. 377, you surprise me - are you that naive?

You are a lawyer - right?

Perhaps 377 - you know it more like "being caught with your pants down".


skyjack71

Dec 10, 2012, 6:14 PM
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Sure you don't mean 2008? The Amboy chute was found in February/March of 2008.

Yes, you are right I was just reading the post I made and when I did it - I said I needed to look up the dates, but just do not pull files - thanks for catching it.

Dates are the first thing to go.
Balancing check books is the other thing - all number related and for yrs I made my living with numbers - keeping books until Duane groomed me for sales.

The DNA was returned in 2007 and that WAS before the Amboy Chute find. I was NOT informed of the DNA not matching UNTIL after the Chute find. I was posting all of this as it happend. Carr called me on his cell on his way to a media things about the chute and told me Duane's DNA did not match.

Why he waited until that time - which was several months after the DNA was tested to tell me is what I questioned. He waits until he is on his way to an interview after the chute find to call me about the DNA. Why was I not informed of the DNA before hand and why did they way from 2003 to 2007 to even test the stuff.

Remember I have the receipts and the documents the FBI forgot to remove and he called telling me he was coming back to get it. I told him he couldn't have it and then he tells me he has a copy. It showed each item and the testing dates of each item - they only tested the items I told them probably didn't have Duane's DNA. I had little and I was a clean freak and I had remarried in 2004 - one doesn't keep lot of things belonging to a deceased spouse when they remarry - if so it is reduced to a very small box and put in a out of site storage - with me it was a hot humid attic.


(This post was edited by skyjack71 on Dec 10, 2012, 6:31 PM)


Amazon  (D License)

Dec 10, 2012, 6:27 PM
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In reply to:
In reply to:
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...Marla sheet-pulling

Care to explain that term Robert? Wink

377

Catching her cheesy Facebook postings, catching her switching up the dropzone her father allegedly told her from Oregon to Washington, (after being reminded about the money on Tena Bar) switching the vehicle from an MG to 'maybe they drove a truck,' when reminded about Forest Service roads in wintertime....stuff like that. There's more.

The term 'pulling the sheets' on someone refers (in a general way) to revealing someone's BS.


I managed to drive from Priest Lake Idaho over to Sullivan Lake in North East Washington in late December back in the 1970's. I was trying to get over to Mettaline Falls after a long weekend party. I was driving my 1967 Austin Healy Sprite ( just an MG Midget with different badging) and pushing powder snow with the front of the car up to the headlights on it. Not one of the smarter decisions I ever made. That one kinda skeered me.. I did know where I was.. and had driven that road a bunch... but it was a pretty bad snow storm and had been dumping for most of the day.. and it was getting dark.


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