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skyjack71

Dec 9, 2012, 10:01 PM
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Jo, nobody is calling you a liar! your perception of truth comes into question by claiming the smallest fact/clue revolving around Duane! he was a criminal period, known to lie, deceive, things Duane did is not as "out of the norm" as one would think when speaking about his past! perhaps you are just so "in the dark" you fail to see the light, I just don't know. I don't have anything against you, but, I just don't see any reason for the theories you claim! how can all the others be wrong just because Duane told you? believe it or not, you are in that category you suppress !!

Definitely NOT in THE DARK Darling, I am quiet well aware of the fact that he was a thief and an excon and known to lie. With me it was lie by ommision and telling me about himself in the third party.

Believe me I am NOT in the DARK!

Yes I chase theories - why not?

If you think I am like Marla she hears something and then suddenly she she changes her story to match the infomation.

NO way! I have told most things over and over from the very beginning and I mean before I ever talked to a TV program or the media. If you are thinking the Zona thing is NEW - think again? IT is not - I questioned this many many yrs ago. I found it on my own tracking down things Duane had told me over the yrs of our marriage...and I have the files to prove it. 85% of this was prior to my ever having access to a computer.


skyjack71

Dec 9, 2012, 10:17 PM
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Jo, nobody is calling you a liar! your perception of truth comes into question by claiming the smallest fact/clue revolving around Duane! he was a criminal period, known to lie, deceive, things Duane did is not as "out of the norm" as one would think when speaking about his past! perhaps you are just so "in the dark" you fail to see the light, I just don't know. I don't have anything against you, but, I just don't see any reason for the theories you claim! how can all the others be wrong just because Duane told you? believe it or not, you are in that category you suppress !!


Go back and read the post Jerry made.

You don't see a reason because YOU don't know me and the theories are just that. The ZONA thing is not a theory - finding out the reason Ed and Duane talked about Zona needs to be known.
And Duane said something regarding the Alcatraz thing and WHY I had knowledge of this before you came up with it and someone else in the thread before you. Perhaps it was ONE of his con-man lies - but, remember I did not know he was a con. He couldn't tell me he met someone in a jail cell. He couldn't tell me individuals he introduced me to he had known from a prison.

The FBI does NOT see fit that the public know who ED was! Why because he was in the same category as Duane - whatever that category was.

If the FBI actually went to talk to Tommy - why NOT make it public? WHY hide the interview? They make everything public now why from me about the past and individuals who are now deceased. WHY? Because they never interviewed these individuals.

Finding ED was NOT secret. The FBI could have done it easy, but I was NOT allowed access to private employement information. Yet the FBI could have made his background and statement public with his permission or they could have provided him with my information so HE could explain who Zona was and what he knew about Duane.


BELIEVE ME - I am not in the category with the writers who do research and try to sell a story nor and I someone looking for attention and to twist my butt all over. I kept my visit to WA a secret - because I was looking for TRUTHS and trying TO find out if MY memories could be false as JT tried to convince me.

WELL, lo and behold I find out JT was the one with the stories- but WHY? WHY did his man go to such efforts to discredit me and make my life horrible? WHY?

NOW that one is a sad sad case and I really feel sorry for the guy but he has never cared about me or the truth....just how much he could badger someone and be heard.


mrshutter45

Dec 9, 2012, 10:25 PM
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Jo, what strong evidence do you have Duane is DB Cooper?
yes, everyone chases's theories!
was Duane outside of prison in the NW?
where was Duane November 24,1971?
can you match the evidence with held about the jacking?
screw the prints and DNA?
what do you know the FBI doesn't?
these guy's hold the key, you have it?


RobertMBlevins

Dec 9, 2012, 10:45 PM
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nothing personal, just seems far fetched to think you hold the key to this crazy case we call DB Cooper, many claim Marla is nuts, Jo is nuts, cook is nuts etc etc.......Cool

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I don't think Marla is nuts. I think she has ADD and is an opportunist.

I don't believe Jo is nuts, either. She could even be right. But you need evidence to prove a case, or at least some witnesses who might be able to further that case a bit.

Cook isn't nuts. But he's motivated to somehow prove Gossett was the hijacker, even if he has go out on some nutty limbs in the attempt. The Janet Fable, etc. All the guy has to really do is interview the people who worked with Gossett at Fort Lewis around the time of the hijacking, and he hasn't done that. This is counterproductive to his appearances on Coast-to-Coast radio, since he might find out that Gossett was Present and Accounted For at the time of the crime. Can't have that happen...Crazy


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mrshutter45

Dec 9, 2012, 11:05 PM
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ask yourself this Robert, you made many claims that Marla was deceptive about who Cooper was correct? isn't this the same as calling her claims nuts? stop with the political correctness BS already,shall we? this is killing this County IMO!!


georger

Dec 9, 2012, 11:09 PM
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nothing personal, just seems far fetched to think you hold the key to this crazy case we call DB Cooper, many claim Marla is nuts, Jo is nuts, cook is nuts etc etc.......Cool

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I don't think Marla is nuts. I think she has ADD and is an opportunist.

I don't believe Jo is nuts, either. She could even be right. But you need evidence to prove a case, or at least some witnesses who might be able to further that case a bit.

Cook isn't nuts. But he's motivated to somehow prove Gossett was the hijacker, even if he has go out on some nutty limbs in the attempt. The Janet Fable, etc. All the guy has to really do is interview the people who worked with Gossett at Fort Lewis around the time of the hijacking, and he hasn't done that. This is counterproductive to his appearances on Coast-to-Coast radio, since he might find out that Gossett was Present and Accounted For at the time of the crime. Can't have that happen...Crazy

Everyone is nuts except RobertMBlevins aka 'Marilyn
Monroe'.

Blevins is just jealous and in need of a personality
transplant!

Sly


RobertMBlevins

Dec 9, 2012, 11:18 PM
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ask yourself this Robert, you made many claims that Marla was deceptive about who Cooper was correct? isn't this the same as calling her claims nuts? stop with the political correctness BS already,shall we? this is killing this County IMO!!

I presented evidence that Marla has changed her story to fit the circumstances, and viewed the Cooper case as her personal media platform leading to a big advance and a book by a major publisher.

One is true, the other never happened. You can decide which one is which. Smile

I will give anyone the benefit of the doubt, even Jo Weber, as long as they aren't deliberately making stuff up to further a means to an end. You can be wrong, but lying is something else entirely. Have to draw the line somewhere. There's enough BS going on the Cooper case already.


(This post was edited by RobertMBlevins on Dec 10, 2012, 12:31 AM)


BruceSmith

Dec 9, 2012, 11:26 PM
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Greetings Everyone,

With the flurry of activity surrounding the case over the past couple of weeks, I've decided to reframe the opening chapter of my book. The new chapter is posted at the Mountain News, and if you'd like to take a look at it, I'd welcome your comments.

Thanks,

-Bruce

http://themountainnewswa.net/...ase-and-the-mystery/


RobertMBlevins

Dec 9, 2012, 11:29 PM
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Greetings Everyone,

With the flurry of activity surrounding the case over the past couple of weeks, I've decided to reframe the opening chapter of my book. The new chapter is posted at the Mountain News, and if you'd like to take a look at it, I'd welcome your comments.

Thanks,

-Bruce

http://themountainnewswa.net/...ase-and-the-mystery/

I did read it. You need a good editor and a title change, that's my advice.

Ditch 'The Hunt for DB Cooper' since it's already been used by Geoff Gray.

Pro edit and format, six/nine paperback with B/W images, Amazon Kindle in color. This can be done by any number of people in the Puget Sound area. Smile


(This post was edited by RobertMBlevins on Dec 9, 2012, 11:33 PM)


BruceSmith

Dec 9, 2012, 11:43 PM
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Cook isn't nuts. But he's motivated to somehow prove Gossett was the hijacker, even if he has go out on some nutty limbs in the attempt. The Janet Fable, etc. All the guy has to really do is interview the people who worked with Gossett at Fort Lewis around the time of the hijacking, and he hasn't done that. This is counterproductive to his appearances on Coast-to-Coast radio, since he might find out that Gossett was Present and Accounted For at the time of the crime. Can't have that happen...Crazy

Can you elaborate on this please, Robert? Where was Wolfgang Gossett on November 24, 1971, and how do you know it?

Thanks.


RobertMBlevins

Dec 9, 2012, 11:46 PM
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Cook isn't nuts. But he's motivated to somehow prove Gossett was the hijacker, even if he has go out on some nutty limbs in the attempt. The Janet Fable, etc. All the guy has to really do is interview the people who worked with Gossett at Fort Lewis around the time of the hijacking, and he hasn't done that. This is counterproductive to his appearances on Coast-to-Coast radio, since he might find out that Gossett was Present and Accounted For at the time of the crime. Can't have that happen...Crazy

Can you elaborate on this please, Robert? Where was Wolfgang Gossett on November 24, 1971, and how do you know it?

Thanks.
I don't know where he was. Neither does anyone else so far. That's the point. Gossett was active duty military at the time of the hijacking, though.

It's Cook's job to answer that question, right? You should be asking him.

EDIT: Seattle Seahawks 58, Arizona Cardinals 0.

This franchise-record win was only overshadowed by Kirk Collins' and RG3's effort against the Ravens. True NFL fans need no further explanation.
It was a good week.

On December 23rd, the SF 49'rs come to Seattle, and Seattle is looking for a little payback. You can bet on it.

Celebrate with Creedence and crank it up. Cool


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skyjack71

Dec 10, 2012, 12:22 AM
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nothing personal, just seems far fetched to think you hold the key to this crazy case we call DB Cooper, many claim Marla is nuts, Jo is nuts, cook is nuts etc etc.......Cool

For the record:

I don't think Marla is nuts. I think she has ADD and is an opportunist.

I don't believe Jo is nuts, either. She could even be right. But you need evidence to prove a case, or at least some witnesses who might be able to further that case a bit.

Cook isn't nuts. But he's motivated to somehow prove Gossett was the hijacker, even if he has go out on some nutty limbs in the attempt. The Janet Fable, etc. All the guy has to really do is interview the people who worked with Gossett at Fort Lewis around the time of the hijacking, and he hasn't done that. This is counterproductive to his appearances on Coast-to-Coast radio, since he might find out that Gossett was Present and Accounted For at the time of the crime. Can't have that happen...Crazy

Congratulation Blevins, you actually summed up Cook as unobjective as any of us could do and you did it better than anyone else has.

One Post and you said a lot with out ONE word about the book.
Now if I could post without talking about Weber - we might get somewhere. I try!


MeyerLouie

Dec 10, 2012, 2:17 AM
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mrshutter45,

While I respect your work and talents you've brought to the case, I think this post is quite unkind toward Jo. Jo has every right to post her theory, ideas, and thoughts, without the unkind labels -- just like everybody else here. MeyerLouie


MeyerLouie

Dec 10, 2012, 3:04 AM
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nothing personal, just seems far fetched to think you hold the key to this crazy case we call DB Cooper, many claim Marla is nuts, Jo is nuts, cook is nuts etc etc.......Cool

For the record:

I don't think Marla is nuts. I think she has ADD and is an opportunist.

I don't believe Jo is nuts, either. She could even be right. But you need evidence to prove a case, or at least some witnesses who might be able to further that case a bit.

Cook isn't nuts. But he's motivated to somehow prove Gossett was the hijacker, even if he has go out on some nutty limbs in the attempt. The Janet Fable, etc. All the guy has to really do is interview the people who worked with Gossett at Fort Lewis around the time of the hijacking, and he hasn't done that. This is counterproductive to his appearances on Coast-to-Coast radio, since he might find out that Gossett was Present and Accounted For at the time of the crime. Can't have that happen...Crazy

Everyone is nuts except RobertMBlevins aka 'Marilyn
Monroe'.

Blevins is just jealous and in need of a personality
transplant!

Sly

I must admit Blevins, that thought has crossed my mind -- are you jealous? You came around like 3 or so years ago, you were here for such a short time, then you co-wrote a book and you appeared on the History Channel -- and somehow I get the feeling you think all that automatically puts you in the "DB Cooper Hall of Fame." You have repeated yourself and your theory so many times you've lost pretty much all credibility.

Moreover, I have seen you react, almost violently, to anyone who's thinking about coming out with a book. There's Marla, then there's Galen Cook, and there's Bruce Smith. You seem so threatened and jealous of anyone who might get something over on you or who might get more notoriety than you. I don't think anyone asked for your opinion on what Bruce should call his book. Brue can spreak for himself, but it seems your advice and criticism of Bruce's work were totally unsolicited. That's so blatantly arrogant, Blevins. Lighten up!! Quit trying so hard.

I met you Blevins. In real life you're a nice, respectful, and kind person -- I saw it with my own eyes. Why don't you try to be that person here? Nobody will fault you for that, and you just might get a better, more respectful response from people around here. Just be yourself. You can be a really good guy, Blevins.

Earning respect takes time. Only people who've been around for a long time and who have earned a good reputation by their body of work deserve our respect. And you will get no respect if you have no credibility and if you have not "put in your time and paid your dues."

MeyerLouie


mrshutter45

Dec 10, 2012, 8:37 AM
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mrshutter45,

While I respect your work and talents you've brought to the case, I think this post is quite unkind toward Jo. Jo has every right to post her theory, ideas, and thoughts, without the unkind labels -- just like everybody else here. MeyerLouie

unfortunately I tend to get caught up in one subject when I disagree, I did say "claim to be nuts" vs nuts, I'm not actually implying that Jo,Marla and Cook are nuts. if that is how people are viewing this, I am sorry for the misrepresentation.

Jo tends to bring out the bad part in me causing me to go into a "Knoss attack" I still strongly object to Jo's findings, but do not believe she or the others mentioned are actually nuts!....again for the record I did say "many claim" as for Mr Cook, I don't even know enough about the mans work, so I simply implied the word nuts, Marla......well....best way to sum her up, is, MarlaWink
Jo, Blevins and Marla all have the same right as I do to post what ever they wish, I believe I told Blevins that same thing a couple post's back. In the future I will respectfully disagree, I do appreciate your coming forward and correcting my statement and will try a more mature approach the next time during battle. Cool

Thank You
Dave Brown


Amazon  (D License)

Dec 10, 2012, 9:39 AM
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Note on computers, key is get all the GPU you can afford.Wink

blues jerry

I have a nvidia 1gig video card, not the best though. my processor was weak (AMD 2.61 GHZ) single core.

upgraded to 3.4 Pentium D dual core
better power supply for a better video card.
was maxed out at 2gigs memory. (old machine)
upgraded to 4 gigs, new puter allows up to 8 on 64 bit
this should be well in the limits of runing the system properly. the best option was to replace rather than
upgrading the processor, motherboard, power supply etc.

the system was running fine until I put upgrades onto the sim(addons) the final hit the machine took was
the new weather system addon. too many running programs for the processor Cool

It still is a bit lacking just sayin

I bought my lappie with the i7 and the 3D LED screen and built in NVIDIA 3D.. friggin AWSUMSmile


Amazon  (D License)

Dec 10, 2012, 9:42 AM
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Jo, nobody is calling you a liar! your perception of truth comes into question by claiming the smallest fact/clue revolving around Duane! he was a criminal period, known to lie, deceive, things Duane did is not as "out of the norm" as one would think when speaking about his past! perhaps you are just so "in the dark" you fail to see the light, I just don't know. I don't have anything against you, but, I just don't see any reason for the theories you claim! how can all the others be wrong just because Duane told you? believe it or not, you are in that category you suppress !!


Go back and read the post Jerry made.

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I never did understand JT's rabid need to persecute a little old lady. Crazy


mrshutter45

Dec 10, 2012, 9:45 AM
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Note on computers, key is get all the GPU you can afford.Wink

blues jerry

I have a nvidia 1gig video card, not the best though. my processor was weak (AMD 2.61 GHZ) single core.

upgraded to 3.4 Pentium D dual core
better power supply for a better video card.
was maxed out at 2gigs memory. (old machine)
upgraded to 4 gigs, new puter allows up to 8 on 64 bit
this should be well in the limits of runing the system properly. the best option was to replace rather than
upgrading the processor, motherboard, power supply etc.

the system was running fine until I put upgrades onto the sim(addons) the final hit the machine took was
the new weather system addon. too many running programs for the processor Cool

It still is a bit lacking just sayin

I bought my lappie with the i7 and the 3D LED screen and built in NVIDIA 3D.. friggin AWSUMSmile

what is lacking, the video card? if so yes I am changing it out, not really video friendly towards gaming or simulations.

the card I have now is a Nvidia Gforce 210, sounds good but performs bad Frown


Amazon  (D License)

Dec 10, 2012, 9:47 AM
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Note on computers, key is get all the GPU you can afford.Wink

blues jerry

I have a nvidia 1gig video card, not the best though. my processor was weak (AMD 2.61 GHZ) single core.

upgraded to 3.4 Pentium D dual core
better power supply for a better video card.
was maxed out at 2gigs memory. (old machine)
upgraded to 4 gigs, new puter allows up to 8 on 64 bit
this should be well in the limits of runing the system properly. the best option was to replace rather than
upgrading the processor, motherboard, power supply etc.

the system was running fine until I put upgrades onto the sim(addons) the final hit the machine took was
the new weather system addon. too many running programs for the processor Cool

It still is a bit lacking just sayin

I bought my lappie with the i7 and the 3D LED screen and built in NVIDIA 3D.. friggin AWSUMSmile

what is lacking, the video card? if so yes I am changing it out, not really video friendly towards gaming or simulations.

the card I have now is a Nvidia Gforce 210, sounds good but performs bad Frown


Check out the one I linked... it is comparable to the one I have built in. I DO so love my 17" XPS... I just wish EVERYTHING was in 3 D now... perhaps in a few more years <sigh>


mrshutter45

Dec 10, 2012, 9:52 AM
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I seen it and am looking into it, don't know about wanting to wear glasses while using it though, did you watch the video?


Amazon  (D License)

Dec 10, 2012, 9:57 AM
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Please don't be crushed....... nope


mrshutter45

Dec 10, 2012, 10:00 AM
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Please don't be crushed....... nope

the one on the site you gaveCool do you need to wear glasses when viewing on your lappy? or just certain vids?


Amazon  (D License)

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Please don't be crushed....... nope

the one on the site you gaveCool do you need to wear glasses when viewing on your lappy? or just certain vids?


Nope.. did not watch that one either....And no I did not watch the video from Ariel either. LaughLaugh

Yes you do need to watch with the glasses.. you get used to it.. really. Then again. I have to use glasses to read my monitor. I used to have stupendous eyesight but alas.. one of the penalties of surviving this long appears to be degraded vision.

I also need to use another set of glaases to watch my Sony 3D LED TV. The glasses are a function of the technology at this point.


mrshutter45

Dec 10, 2012, 10:17 AM
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Please don't be crushed....... nope

the one on the site you gaveCool do you need to wear glasses when viewing on your lappy? or just certain vids?


Nope.. did not watch that one either....And no I did not watch the video from Ariel either. LaughLaugh

Yes you do need to watch with the glasses.. you get used to it.. really. Then again. I have to use glasses to read my monitor. I used to have stupendous eyesight but alas.. one of the penalties of surviving this long appears to be degraded vision.

I also need to use another set of glaases to watch my Sony 3D LED TV. The glasses are a function of the technology at this point.

sounds good but I think I will pass on that one, if I make videos of my simulation peeps would also need to have those glasses, not just the ordinary 3D glasses. probably go with a Nvidia gtx660, 640 card, not sure yet. still shopping Sly


Robert99

Dec 10, 2012, 10:17 AM
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I will give anyone the benefit of the doubt, even Jo Weber, as long as they aren't deliberately making stuff up to further a means to an end. You can be wrong, but lying is something else entirely. Have to draw the line somewhere. There's enough BS going on the Cooper case already.

Blevins, How do you personally determine if someone isn't "deliberately making stuff up to further a means to an end"?

Would you care to offer some names of the people who are responsible for all the BS that is already on the Cooper case? Don't be modest.

Robert99


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