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RobertMBlevins

Dec 6, 2012, 1:06 AM
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I'm a big believer in equal time. The only folks I have a REAL problem with regarding the Cooper case aren't folks who might be wrong. It's the ones who make up stuff to suit a purpose. Not about screwing up, or making a mistake, but making stuff up. Like Marla, for example. There is a difference between seeking the truth and just using Cooper as a means to an end. I do have some pride, believe it or not.

I'll be first in line to admit I've been wrong plenty of times. But I won't lie to you, either.

You have to draw the line somewhere, and that seems as good a spot as any. And anyone who can't figure out the difference...

On a less serious note, I posted a video to my Facebook page today. Roger Daltrey of The Who provided some great footage from a filmmaker who shot them at the Railway Hotel in 1964 when they were still The High Numbers.

It's wacked. Looks like Pete Townshend is playing a hollow-body Rickenbacker through a Fender amp. Doesn't even have the strings trimmed. Keith Moon plays a Ludwig drum kit. John Entwhistle looks SO young. The first song of the three is great. Second, just so-so. Third is very good. Crazy Brits included, no charge.

Full screen and major speaker volume for best results. Smile


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airtwardo  (D License)

Dec 6, 2012, 2:10 AM
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I'm a big believer in equal time. The only folks I have a REAL problem with regarding the Cooper case aren't folks who might be wrong. It's the ones who make up stuff to suit a purpose. Not about screwing up, or making a mistake, but making stuff up. Like Marla, for example. There is a difference between seeking the truth and just using Cooper as a means to an end. I do have some pride, believe it or not.

I'll be first in line to admit I've been wrong plenty of times. But I won't lie to you, either.

You have to draw the line somewhere, and that seems as good a spot as any. And anyone who can't figure out the difference...

Well you're a better man than many.

Some on here have a favorite candidate, which is fine...they have their reasons and stand by them.

Others attempt to raise reasonable questions regarding the methodology & logic arrived at the focus on one - or even all of the Cooper 'could beeez'.

A select few seem to take joy in the personal assassination of various contributors for some dark reason that adds nothing to the conversation, and only muddy the water for everyone.

And then there are a couple of nutters that though are a bubble off plum are certainly entertaining none the less.

I don't know why someone would continually attack you as has been the case, but I do admire the restraint you show by merely deflecting the bullshit thrown.

Dropzone.com is nothing more than an Internet posting board and the bravado of certain keyboard cowboys is most telling. At a real world dropzone there is thankfully far less tolerance for that kind of immature behavior.


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RobertMBlevins

Dec 6, 2012, 2:29 AM
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Thanks.

In case you didn't get enough of The Who... Three years after they were playing Rickenbackers at the Railway, they stormed America with the best two synchs on TV. Back then they used pre-taped music backgrounds, or even special vinyl recordings, but it varied according to the needs/demands of the band. Sometime they did all the music, other times they would leave off the drum tracks. Or they would broadcast everything except the vocal track. Hullaballoo and Dick Clark usually went with total lip-synch. It was hard to tell sometimes, but the Smothers Brothers disguised it well with
The Who.

Or...they may have done it REALLY live. Can you tell?


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MeyerLouie

Dec 6, 2012, 12:43 PM
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I'm a big believer in equal time. The only folks I have a REAL problem with regarding the Cooper case aren't folks who might be wrong. It's the ones who make up stuff to suit a purpose. Not about screwing up, or making a mistake, but making stuff up. Like Marla, for example. There is a difference between seeking the truth and just using Cooper as a means to an end. I do have some pride, believe it or not.

I'll be first in line to admit I've been wrong plenty of times. But I won't lie to you, either.

You have to draw the line somewhere, and that seems as good a spot as any. And anyone who can't figure out the difference...

On a less serious note, I posted a video to my Facebook page today. Roger Daltrey of The Who provided some great footage from a filmmaker who shot them at the Railway Hotel in 1964 when they were still The High Numbers.

It's wacked. Looks like Pete Townshend is playing a hollow-body Rickenbacker through a Fender amp. Doesn't even have the strings trimmed. Keith Moon plays a Ludwig drum kit. John Entwhistle looks SO young. The first song of the three is great. Second, just so-so. Third is very good. Crazy Brits included, no charge.

Full screen and major speaker volume for best results. Smile
____________________________________________

We interrupt this program to bring you a special announcement..... we never liked Roger Daltrey or Peter Townsend. When they weren't fist fighting, they were making mediocre music most of the time.


377  (F 666)

Dec 6, 2012, 1:27 PM
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Meyer Louie wrote about the Who
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"mediocre music..."

I wasn't a big fan of the Who, but I'd never rank their music as just mediocre.

It's a free world though. Some folks think Beethoven was a hack.

To be fair, Meyer did say "...mediocre... most of the time"

So maybe even Meyer liked the Who's music on occasion.

DB Cooper must have had some favorite tunes. Wonder what they were? Jo thinks she knows.Wink

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mrshutter45

Dec 6, 2012, 1:36 PM
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Meyer Louie wrote about the Who
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"mediocre music..."

I wasn't a big fan of the Who, but I'd never rank their music as just mediocre.

It's a free world though. Some folks think Beethoven was a hack.

To be fair, Meyer did say "...mediocre... most of the time"

So maybe even Meyer liked the Who's music on occasion.

DB Cooper must have had some favorite tunes. Wonder what they were? Jo thinks she knows.Wink

377


DB Coopers likes music such as Free Bird- by Lynyrd Skynyrd, Free Falling- by Tom Petty, Jump- by Van Halen, Money-by Pink Floyd, Wanted dead or alive-by Bon Jovi and the ever so popular Rain Drops Keep Fallin On My Head- by BJ Thomas Cool


377  (F 666)

Dec 6, 2012, 4:46 PM
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Airtwardo wrote
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Dropzone.com is nothing more than an Internet posting board and the bravado of certain keyboard cowboys is most telling. At a real world dropzone there is thankfully far less tolerance for that kind of immature behavior.

Airtwardo is right. Most of what happens here wouldn't go over well at a real dropzone.

Real dropzones do, however, gladly tolerate a very different kind of immature behavior. It usually involves nudity, beer, and various chants, or combinations of the above.

I showed a candid video of typical evening revelry at WFFC 2000 to some whuffo friends. They were aghast, speechless, stunned.

Can I get a witness Airtwardo?Cool

377


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airtwardo  (D License)

Dec 6, 2012, 7:52 PM
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Airtwardo wrote
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Dropzone.com is nothing more than an Internet posting board and the bravado of certain keyboard cowboys is most telling. At a real world dropzone there is thankfully far less tolerance for that kind of immature behavior.

Airtwardo is right. Most of what happens here wouldn't go over well at a real dropzone.

Real dropzones do, however, gladly tolerate a very different kind of immature behavior. It usually involves nudity, beer, and various chants, or combinations of the above.

I showed a candid video of typical evening revelry at WFFC 2000 to some whuffo friends. They were aghast, speechless, stunned.

Can I get a witness Airtwardo?Cool

377

AMEN Brother! Angelic


Amazon  (D License)

Dec 6, 2012, 8:14 PM
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Not buyin it. I have seen way too many people subjected to extreme stress. They may appear ok at the time... but.. again.. the rest of her life.. speaks VOLUMES


georger

Dec 6, 2012, 8:41 PM
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I want you guys to look at these 2 photos.

The Camino Picture which was taken in 1945 of 5 guys - one of which I believe was Duane. But that is NOT the focus of what this is about. Take a GOOD look at the other guys - especially Unruh and Fleckinger.

Then look at the Salt Lake photo and tell me if you think any of those guys could be the Salt Lake guys.

Then someone find the name of the man who confessed in the 1990's that someone went over for him - FIND that news clip or special and when you do - Does the guy look like the Salt Lake photo 1979 and / or the Camino Picture 1945.

This had often bothered me, but I had never verbalized it on this thread. Perhaps in my quest to find answers about Duane's connection to the Salt Lake man and the stress of the entire 18 yrs - I am just seeing things that do not exist.

Since I only saw the man who confessed to allowing someone go-over for him on TV that one time - perhaps my mind just wants TO CONNECT the three things - the 3 visuals in my mind..

Attached find the Salt Lake photo 1979 and the Camino Photo 1945 - tell me what you see! Snowmman WHERE ARE YOU - I need you NOW! Find a picture of the man who confessed on a TV program - it was a very short clip - the man was sitting in a chair.

The 3rd photo of the man who made the confession to cleanse his soul (you guys will have to find). Did that man come forward because he was confronted by another or was it just that - the cleansing of the soul?

15+ years of 'Jesus in the toast'.

The internet has given you a platform. Not exactly
what we had in mind whenw e built the arpenet!

Do you drive and text?


georger

Dec 6, 2012, 8:48 PM
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Not buyin it. I have seen way too many people subjected to extreme stress. They may appear ok at the time... but.. again.. the rest of her life.. speaks VOLUMES

You know something nobody else knows?

Is she in danger fron nasturtiums and mums?

Her family told Bruce she was fine.

Maybe you and she could become good friends?
(Call her brother).


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Amazon  (D License)

Dec 6, 2012, 8:53 PM
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Not buyin it. I have seen way too many people subjected to extreme stress. They may appear ok at the time... but.. again.. the rest of her life.. speaks VOLUMES

You know something nobody else knows?

Is she in danger fron nasturtiums and mums?

Her family told Bruce she was fine.

Maybe you and she could become good friends?

How many Coffee, Tea or Me types of that era ended running to a convent?? CoolCool


mrshutter45

Dec 6, 2012, 9:09 PM
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Not buyin it. I have seen way too many people subjected to extreme stress. They may appear ok at the time... but.. again.. the rest of her life.. speaks VOLUMES

You know something nobody else knows?

Is she in danger fron nasturtiums and mums?

Her family told Bruce she was fine.

Maybe you and she could become good friends?

How many Coffee, Tea or Me types of that era ended running to a convent?? CoolCool

she was already very Religious during that time period wasn't she?


georger

Dec 6, 2012, 9:14 PM
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Not buyin it. I have seen way too many people subjected to extreme stress. They may appear ok at the time... but.. again.. the rest of her life.. speaks VOLUMES

You know something nobody else knows?

Is she in danger fron nasturtiums and mums?

Her family told Bruce she was fine.

Maybe you and she could become good friends?

How many Coffee, Tea or Me types of that era ended running to a convent?? CoolCool

Tina came from a deeply religious family
background, considered a devoted life in her teens,
had a high profile marraige after the hijacking, that
ended and she took time off to reflect and examine
her priorities in an environment commensurate with
her background - many people do that in one form
or another. Everyone has a place they retreat to to
think, reflect, rest, and plan ... including you.


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airtwardo  (D License)

Dec 6, 2012, 9:19 PM
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...took time off to reflect and examine her
priorities - many people do that in one form or
another.

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More should consider doin' it.


Amazon  (D License)

Dec 6, 2012, 9:21 PM
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Not buyin it. I have seen way too many people subjected to extreme stress. They may appear ok at the time... but.. again.. the rest of her life.. speaks VOLUMES

You know something nobody else knows?

Is she in danger fron nasturtiums and mums?

Her family told Bruce she was fine.

Maybe you and she could become good friends?

How many Coffee, Tea or Me types of that era ended running to a convent?? CoolCool

Tina came from a deeply religious background,
considered a devoted life in her teens, had a high
profile marraige after the hijacking, that ended and
she took time off to reflect and examine her
priorities - many people do that in one form or
another.


Umm yeah... I went to parochial school for most of my formative years. Most of my friends when I was a child did as well. The SEVENTIES changed a lot of people.... not to mention all those good little uniform wearing catholic school girls were probably the most promiscuous people I ever met in my life. SlySly


RobertMBlevins

Dec 6, 2012, 9:22 PM
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MeyerLouie says in part:

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'We interrupt this program to bring you a special announcement..... we never liked Roger Daltrey or Peter Townsend. When they weren't fist fighting, they were making mediocre music most of the time...'

What? That is heresy, sir. In some countries they scrub the skin from your body with pumice rock for saying that. Cool

Quote:
"I was born with a plastic spoon in my mouth... "

It was mostly Keith Moon who made the trouble. He liked to blow up hotel toilets. One time, he made his driver go back to a hotel while they were on the way to the airport. He forgot to blow up the toilet. After that one, the Who was banned from that chain. Can't remember which one, maybe Holiday Inns. Another time he dove into a swimming pool...but it was empty. Unimpressed It's in the book about his life.


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georger

Dec 6, 2012, 9:25 PM
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...took time off to reflect and examine her
priorities - many people do that in one form or
another.

In reply to:

More should consider doin' it.

A lot of people dont have such a place where they
really do feel safe and can make personal progress
in. Tina was lucky in that respect. Urbanisation has
removed lots fo places people used to go to and
use -

For some people its a book ...


(This post was edited by georger on Dec 6, 2012, 9:30 PM)


Amazon  (D License)

Dec 6, 2012, 9:35 PM
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...took time off to reflect and examine her
priorities - many people do that in one form or
another.

In reply to:

More should consider doin' it.

A lot of people dont have such a place where they
really do feel safe and can make personal progress
in. Tina was lucky in that respect. Urbanisation has
removed lots fo places people used to go to and
use -

For some people its a book ...

You get 200 miles over the horizon to the west of here and there is all the solitude in the world... been there many many times when people start to annoy me too much.


MeyerLouie

Dec 6, 2012, 9:39 PM
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Meyer Louie wrote about the Who
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"mediocre music..."

I wasn't a big fan of the Who, but I'd never rank their music as just mediocre.

It's a free world though. Some folks think Beethoven was a hack.

To be fair, Meyer did say "...mediocre... most of the time"

So maybe even Meyer liked the Who's music on occasion.

DB Cooper must have had some favorite tunes. Wonder what they were? Jo thinks she knows.Wink

377
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The Who's top 2 biggest were good. I think DB liked Peter, Paul, and Mary's "Leaving On a Jet Plane." MeyerLouie


RobertMBlevins

Dec 6, 2012, 9:41 PM
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Well, we know NWA didn't pay very well, either. I think after the hijacking, Mucklow was so shaken up she decided to 'split the whole scene' for good. How much are you going to put up with for five hundred bucks or less a month and 'all the toilet paper you can carry'. (Geoff Gray quote on the working conditions at Northwest Airlines)

Gray quotes Flo Schaffner as saying Tina occasionally tried to proselytize that 'old time religion' with other NWA employees.Angelic


(This post was edited by RobertMBlevins on Dec 6, 2012, 9:43 PM)


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