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Cleaning hot glue from webbing

 


Deyan  (D 322)

Nov 1, 2012, 2:23 PM
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It comes off easy from type VIII, but from type VII is pain in the ass. Crazy

Any tricks ?


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airtwardo  (D License)

Nov 1, 2012, 2:48 PM
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Ice...get it hard & solid and break it off.


mark  (D 6108)

Nov 1, 2012, 3:46 PM
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Windex, and the round end of your 6-inch ruler.

Mark


airtwardo  (D License)

Nov 1, 2012, 4:48 PM
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Windex, and the round end of your 6-inch ruler.

Mark
Isopropanol, 2-Butoxyethanol, Ethylene glycol n-hexyl ether, water, fragrance and blue dye, ~ the older stuff has amonia.

That sounds like solvents, isn't that rough on nylon?


theonlyski  (D License)

Nov 1, 2012, 6:14 PM
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Windex, and the round end of your 6-inch ruler.

Mark
Isopropanol, 2-Butoxyethanol, Ethylene glycol n-hexyl ether, water, fragrance and blue dye, ~ the older stuff has amonia.

That sounds like solvents, isn't that rough on nylon?

I've heard several experienced riggers say they would/do use windex to clean a rig.


airtwardo  (D License)

Nov 1, 2012, 7:53 PM
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Windex, and the round end of your 6-inch ruler.

Mark
Isopropanol, 2-Butoxyethanol, Ethylene glycol n-hexyl ether, water, fragrance and blue dye, ~ the older stuff has amonia.

That sounds like solvents, isn't that rough on nylon?

I've heard several experienced riggers say they would/do use windex to clean a rig.

Not MY rigger! Wink


From the msds~
Glycol ethers are primarily used as
formulation solvents in cleaning fluids,
paints, coatings, and inks. Ethylene glycol
monohexyl ether has excellent oil solubility
characteristics that make it useful in both
consumer (household) and industrial
cleaner applications.


It's an oil solvent...guess what nylon is made from? Sly

When we use to wrap the 777 engine rings with Kevlar there was a list of things that couldn't be in the shop...windex was like number 3.


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theonlyski  (D License)

Nov 1, 2012, 7:56 PM
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Not MY rigger! Wink

It's an oil solvent...guess what nylon is made from? Sly

Well, I'd be surprised to find out a No.2 pencil had any preference in cleaning chemicals!

I never said I would use it, just know I've heard people saying they would/do.

I wouldn't use it on my rigs though. Wink


airtwardo  (D License)

Nov 1, 2012, 8:03 PM
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Well, I'd be surprised to find out a No.2 pencil had any preference in cleaning chemicals!

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riggerrob  (D 14840)

Nov 2, 2012, 7:18 AM
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Windex, and the round end of your 6-inch ruler.

Mark
Isopropanol, 2-Butoxyethanol, Ethylene glycol n-hexyl ether, water, fragrance and blue dye, ~ the older stuff has amonia.

That sounds like solvents, isn't that rough on nylon?

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We asked for a list of solvents, not the stuff you drink to steady your nerves!
Hah!
Hah!


mark  (D 6108)

Nov 2, 2012, 7:43 AM
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Isopropanol, 2-Butoxyethanol, Ethylene glycol n-hexyl ether, water, fragrance and blue dye, ~ the older stuff has amonia.

That sounds like solvents, isn't that rough on nylon?

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From the msds~
Glycol ethers are primarily used as
formulation solvents in cleaning fluids,
paints, coatings, and inks. Ethylene glycol
monohexyl ether has excellent oil solubility
characteristics that make it useful in both
consumer (household) and industrial
cleaner applications.


It's an oil solvent...guess what nylon is made from?Sly

Thanks for your reply. It's been fun reading up on polymer chemistry!

What is the plastic bottle made from?Sly

Just because something is a solvent doesn't mean it dissolves everything. Water is a solvent, for example. It dissolves stuff like salt and sugar.

Poynter suggests using alcohol or lighter fluid to clean oil or grease contamination from nylon, and they work precisely because they are oil solvents. Poynter says further, "Hydrocarbons are not generally injurious to nylon."

Windex or other cleaners might attack the coatings on the nylon materials we use, which may affect permeability or UV resistance. That's usually not an issue with webbing or cordura, especially where hot glue needs to be removed.

I'd be more concerned about mechanical methods of removing glue.

Mark


airtwardo  (D License)

Nov 2, 2012, 9:12 AM
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Windex or other cleaners might attack the coatings on the nylon materials we use, which may affect permeability or UV resistance. That's usually not an issue with webbing or cordura, especially where hot glue needs to be removed.

I'd be more concerned about mechanical methods of removing glue.

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That's why you never use Windex on sunglasses...it removes the UV coating. Wink


' using alcohol or lighter fluid to clean oil or grease contamination from nylon, and they work precisely because they are oil solvents '

~They do...
They are also fast evaporators that leave 'almost' no residue.

Not so with Windex, spray it & alcohol on a white cloth and the difference is obvious.

It's in a plastic 'Windex' bottle because it's cheaper to do so, that & the solvents are somewhat diluted.
Ethylene glycol n-hexyl ether in a non-diluted state has to be kept in steel or copper IIRC. It eats through plastic & rubber pretty quick.

I may be overly cautious but when I was building airplane & rocket parts there were strict protocols regarding what the plastics & nylons could be exposed to.

You're right on the mechanical damage, we couldn't wear rings or watches when fabrication with nylon. ANY evidence of cut fibers was a 'defect in manufacturing' on our part.

That's why for glue over-run a couple of freezer packs would be used an ya had to make sure you 'broke' the bead of glue away from the fibers.


Bottom line~ using Windex on a rig probably won't make it un-jumpable.
But there ARE chemicals & dye in it that should at the very least be considered when using it...when other options are available why not use them instead?



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