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377  (F 666)

Oct 17, 2012, 9:39 PM
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Farf wrote
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Please, can’t we all just talk about Duane?

We sure can Farf. Can you imagine a smarter long range plan for the crime of the century? Duane mimicked an incompetent petty thief and con artist for decades in preparation for Norjack. With his record he could walk into an FBI office and confess to being DBC. He'd be asked to leave and not bother them again.

Absolutely brilliant.

377


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RobertMBlevins

Oct 17, 2012, 9:44 PM
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The first flight of the Boeing 727 was on February 9, 1963 and it's first revenue flight was with Eastern Air Lines on February 1, 1964.

Robert99

Thank You for that information and it fits!

Bernie Geestman had three main employers during his lifetime. From about 1947-1958 he worked as a mechanic on aircraft for NWA. First on Shemya Island, (recruited out of Minneapolis) and then later in Seattle.

Between 1959-1968 he worked for The Boeing Company, mostly a line guy on the 727 program. In other words, non-SPEEA.

After that, he went to work for Foss Tugs in Seattle, and worked for them as a marine mechanic until at least 1975. Logbooks found in a box in Twisp, WA cover the years 1968-1975, with the one for 1971 no longer in the box.


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Farflung

Oct 17, 2012, 9:51 PM
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Thanks 377,

Wow, I haven’t felt this good since my proctologist said ‘All done.’

Duane was an amazing person in that he served honorably in two branches of the service, rather that the loser one service I was associated with. Much smarter to ‘stick it’ to the man rather than working at a Quickie Mart, selling Cheesy Poofs, and Bladder Busters to the self important gubberment retirees who would clack into the store, with their cloven hooves and bore me with their ‘I was in the service for twenty years’ stories, which had me browsing the homo-erotic magazines as a form of relief. But they seem to think they are as interesting as Duane.

Well we all know better, because no matter what you did, Duane did more. No matter how illustrious your service record, Duane’s is more impressive. No matter where you worked, Duane worked more and at more places and had family that did the same. You think you know history? Well Duane IS history.

He is….. the most interesting entity, in the universe, and beyond.




Farflung

Oct 17, 2012, 10:35 PM
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Commercial on QVC AND Lifetime…… have time, must be quick, no Felix, not TOG…..

Duane was all things to aviation corrosion control and much more qualified than some slug retiree from the service. This is all so awesome to read and digest and ummm… I’m starting to need chocolate milk.. has anyone been in Duane for 21 and one half years?…. Tired…. Too much talk about…. un-stoopid… me need sleepy pee pee…. It was Duane…. Everything else not to be discussed…. Just Coo coo key choo…

Duane was a super secret paratrooper, invented airplane paint, you don’t even know.

Please, more Duane…. I hunger and thirst for more Duane… no… NO… not any TOG… just Duane, have mercy, stay on topic as I command.




377  (F 666)

Oct 17, 2012, 10:48 PM
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Jo wrote
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Boeing developed the mechanics, aerodynamics and navigational. The design for the interior design and exterior durability was left up to private contractors. These companies would not know the mechanics of the plane - but, the specifics they needed to develope the what was needed in their area of development...such as durability of the seat covers, the interior nd exteriour finishes. Impossible to make a bid or develope the product with out that specific information.

Wrong Jo.

I am interested in aviation history. I spent days in the Boeing archives researching the development history of one of my favorite planes, the Boeing 377. It was developed in the late 40s. Even way back then Boeing, not suppliers, did all the design for interior and exterior finishes. Once they knew what they wanted they published specs for suppliers who wanted to bid. I reviewed reams of materials just dealing with interior fabric color and weave density specs.

You want so desperately to prove that Duane was DBC that you spin any connection into allegedly probative evidence. Duane knew the terrain in the flight path area so he must be the jumper. Duane knew something about paragliders you watched so he must have been a jumper. Duane had some odd piece of hardware that you sold at a garage sale so it must have come from a parachute rig. Duane knew an airplane mechanic so he must be a jumper. The list is endless and at times is absurd, like the parachuting pipeline welders.

Obsessive beliefs. Read about it. I think you may suffer from it to some degree. In your case it's pretty harmless but it actually impedes your ability to rationally investigate Duane as a Norjack suspect. You sort evidence in a very biased manner.

Carry on. I still enjoy your presence here and wish you the best.

377


Farflung

Oct 17, 2012, 10:53 PM
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Stop teasing with low hanging fruit! We aren’t all Bozo’s who say one thing and do another! Please stop flaunting your knowledge of Duane, like some sort of Cooper related item, which appears to be the land of plenty; but like some retiree’s story about his military career, is nothing but a linguistic ‘La Brea Tar Pit’, which captures and vanquishes all from the mighty Woolley Mammoth to the ceaselessly boring lifer who insists on telling you stories about his career, till you jump into the tar pit as a sweet escape.

Please tell more about Duane, I beg.


377  (F 666)

Oct 17, 2012, 10:54 PM
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Jo wrote
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Had to delete the rest of the post I made as - it is about things and circumstances I am NOT supposed to talk about in this thread or in any written format.

Klaxon horn sounding. Loudspeaker blares: "Tease Alert Tease Alert. This is not a drill".

It must be tough being 007 Jo. So many secrets to protect. Never reveal the whole story. It would be akin to treason.

377


Farflung

Oct 17, 2012, 11:04 PM
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Ahhhh---ooooooooo----GAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZT

BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZT

Sky King, Sky King, Do NOT Answer…..

Delta….. Uniform….. Alpha…..November….. Echo….. I say again……

Delta……Uniform…….Alpha….. November….. Echo……..

This is not a drill, this is not a drill…….

BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZT

BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZTTTT!!!!!!

Launch codes verified?

What?

Launch codes verified!

Oh, yeah, I’m FIGMO ya know. Got 21 and a half, so it doesn’t matter. I got your launch verification pal, I got it…….. right here!


Robert99

Oct 17, 2012, 11:12 PM
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Jo wrote
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Had to delete the rest of the post I made as - it is about things and circumstances I am NOT supposed to talk about in this thread or in any written format.

Klaxon horn sounding. Loudspeaker blares: "Tease Alert Tease Alert. This is not a drill".

It must be tough being 007 Jo. So many secrets to protect. Never reveal the whole story. It would be akin to treason.

377

Jo, if you want to spin another story about Duane then please expand on this one.

A few days ago, you went to great lengths in a post to state that everyone, except maybe one former wife, really liked Duane and held him in high regard.

Okay. If the above is true, then why didn't Duane really like all these people in return.

Duane obviously felt that someone really didn't like him since he was still carrying a concealed pistol almost up to the day he died. And he felt it necessary to pack some heat.

Robert99


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377  (F 666)

Oct 17, 2012, 11:37 PM
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Ahhhh---ooooooooo----GAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZT

BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZT

Sky King, Sky King, Do NOT Answer…..

Delta….. Uniform….. Alpha…..November….. Echo….. I say again……

Delta……Uniform…….Alpha….. November….. Echo……..

This is not a drill, this is not a drill…….

BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZT

BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZTTTT!!!!!!

Launch codes verified?

What?

Launch codes verified!

Oh, yeah, I’m FIGMO ya know. Got 21 and a half, so it doesn’t matter. I got your launch verification pal, I got it…….. right here!

It's D5 on the SAC jukebox Farf. Thought you might like to hear it again.

http://youtu.be/oF-DMhpJOAI


That oughta get your manly military pilot juices flowing. One Buff could flatten Moscow and you would have been the guy to do it if Le May's first choice, Duane Weber, got shot down en route.

The Kremlin celebrated your retirement, but you had no way of knowing that and are too modest to brag if you did know.

377


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Farflung

Oct 17, 2012, 11:52 PM
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‘Bombs Away’ LeMay gave, ‘Disdain’ Duane his moniker. No better Left Seat since Bud Holland or any other braggart with 21 and a half years. Because you measure input in the government, output be damned. Gawd damn Duane was a natural on the Christmas Tree. He would smoke a pipe while wiring starter cartridges, because he knew they wouldn’t ignite out of fear.

Fawk could that guy weave himself into every conversation we had. Like how convincing some ‘Ladyboy’ was outside U-Tapao, when all along it was Duane playing a joke on everyone. Oh boy, how we all would laugh at that, well except the Bulldog, because he spent three months wages on Duane’s; or should I say ‘Diane’s’, engagement ring? Good times.


RobertMBlevins

Oct 18, 2012, 2:14 AM
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Who knows how it will turn out, but I'm planning another video soon on Christiansen. But this time I'm going to film it out in the Olympics. The last one I did was okay, but I had taken a headfirst tumble down the stairs from the office a day or two before I filmed it. Cool

My mother. She's beautiful. Gave me two cameras on my last trip to see her. She says to me: 'Sell one, keep the other...' (She's a retired pro shutterbug) So like a good boy I did what I was told. I sold the Canon with the lenses for a lot of money and kept the Sony video camera. This enabled me to buy a 1988 Nissan truck with less than 100k on it from a very nice senior citizen. Knowing Nissan hardbodies and their NAPS-Z two point four liter engines very well, I gave it a good home.

I cleaned it up, tuned it up, changed the oil, fixed the radio and antenna, and did a shakedown cruise on a recent Trip to the Mountains.

I'm currently planning another camping trip up near the Hamma Hamma river in the Olympics to film the video. Much recovered from my Trip Down the Stairs, it should be a breeze.

Hopefully, I won't meet any pissed-off bears previously wounded by stupid hunters. That's always a plus. Pictures are of the area where I'm heading to film the vid. Smile
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georger

Oct 18, 2012, 9:45 AM
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Who is to say DBC didn't have an inertial stability augmentation device? Makes as much sense as a back brace designed to vibrate upon receiving VOR radial signals. Wink

How about some support for a Snowmman pardon or at least parole?
He doesn't get distracted like we do. It would be good for the forum.

377

attached (left to right, down) 49 frames;
camera angle uncertain ... flat spin x,y,z

also that news conference so very good -

http://aksarbent.blogspot.com/2012/10/felix-
baumgartner-explains-how-he.html


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Robert99

Oct 18, 2012, 12:48 PM
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Some videos from Felix Baumgartner's jump are now available at "http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/49465" and include a few seconds of video during the free fall from a camera that appears to be mounted behind his head.

Robert99


mrshutter45

Oct 18, 2012, 1:53 PM
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have you seen this one? http://www.guardian.co.uk/...greatest-jumps-video


georger

Oct 18, 2012, 2:04 PM
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Newsweek announced its last printed magazine will
be Dec 31st 2012 - going full internet.


Farflung

Oct 18, 2012, 2:15 PM
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Well here’s another solution looking for a problem to solve. This has something for everyone, for the investor it’s a sure ‘short position’ and a definite purchase by those retired military types who think $900 hammers and $1600 toilet seats are bargains. And compared to the likely price of this thing, it would be a bargain too.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uno_(dicycle)

Yep, you know it had to come from Canada. Why use the functional, rotational mass built into every motorcycle, when you can remove the inherent stability then return it by adding a couple gyros? Like I said, this has DOD purchase written all over its total lack of usability. Look out! There’s a little bunny, instinctively hit the brakes, and you will be rewarded with an asphalt faceplant or becoming street pizza.

In this video you can see the gyro pack:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpYwgvLQRlM

How many people were involved in the prototyping of this thing? Were they all mute? Talk about the Kings Clothing Fable incarnate. Hey Dave, you do realize how stupid this thing is right? Clearly, Dave does not have a single friend.

Here’s a video of the DIE, DIE! You Yankee Pig-cycle in action:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2DgwY5QQBk

The good thing about A123 filing bankruptcy is the impediment it will serve in regard to the development of this type of vapor. But the gyro pack may be chest mountable for an astronaut to use as part of his bail out system to establish a stable descent in near space. Gawd, I hope this doesn’t detract too much from whatever. Oh yeah, Cooper. There Cooper is now mentioned, twice.
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377  (F 666)

Oct 18, 2012, 11:28 PM
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Jo wrote
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I have been trying to work with what John told me and what Duane told me regarding planes.
John DID not explain why he would have had the Boeing designs in his home and I did NOT ask why. He had stated he was a consultant for Boeing for 6 yrs.

Jo,

All those alleged 727 design documents would not have answered the basic questions about whether the plane was jumpable. The answer isn't found in system diagrams or schematics.

377


377  (F 666)

Oct 18, 2012, 11:46 PM
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Jo wrote
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Hey, YOU are an ATTORNEY! I am supposed to blurt out names and phone numbers of individuals and NOT expect consequences. I just do NOT do that. A few times I have slipped up and mentioned a name, but NOT in a really bad way.

Not asking for names Jo, just details about what the records you seek purport to prove.

Your selective partial disclosures and teases are counterproductive. They discourage people who might otherwise be inclined to help you with your investigation.

377


georger

Oct 19, 2012, 12:56 AM
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I have been trying to work with what John told me and what Duane told me regarding planes.
John DID not explain why he would have had the Boeing designs in his home and I did NOT ask why. He had stated he was a consultant for Boeing for 6 yrs.

Jo,

All those alleged 727 design documents would not have answered the basic questions about whether the plane was jumpable. The answer isn't found in system diagrams or schematics.

377

I always come back to the same thing - the ordinary.
Why would anyone suppose Cooper had to have
special info, to do what!? To know the 727 had rear
stairs that opened and closed. Like ducks have feet!

Seeing that alone could add up to an opportunity,
to a certain mindset.

Those stairs open and close. You go up the stairs
and down the stairs. If they open once, on the
ground, whynot in flight? The only question might
have been: can they be opened in flight? And
Cooper specifically asked a stewardess to take care
of the matter. And he didnt send the stew forward
until the matter was taken care of.

That seemed to be Ckret's take on the matter.

Give a good reason why this could not have been
the case (or definately was not the case) ?


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