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Age 35, 11,000 jumps and low turn fatality?

 


rmsmith

Oct 9, 2012, 5:01 PM
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Age 35, 11,000 jumps and low turn fatality? Can't Post

Just got the latest issue, and saw the low turn fatality by a highly experienced swooper. Was there a thread about it?


Shredex

Oct 9, 2012, 5:23 PM
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Re: [rmsmith] Age 35, 11,000 jumps and low turn fatality? [In reply to] Can't Post

http://www.dropzone.com/...rum.cgi?post=4384838

That what you're looking for?


rmsmith

Oct 9, 2012, 6:36 PM
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Re: [Shredex] Age 35, 11,000 jumps and low turn fatality? [In reply to] Can't Post

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Not sure; it's shocking how many highly experienced skydivers are paying the ultimate price.


stratostar  (Student)

Oct 9, 2012, 6:55 PM
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Re: [rmsmith] Age 35, 11,000 jumps and low turn fatality? [In reply to] Can't Post

The reaper is not picky as to who he takes.... it can happen to anyone of us as you know, or should know.


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Oct 9, 2012, 7:50 PM
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Re: [rmsmith] Age 35, 11,000 jumps and low turn fatality? [In reply to] Can't Post

http://www.dropzone.com/...rum.cgi?post=4275609


As to the video linked earlier... no clue as to that incident. Time to look in it it. Unsure


waveoff5500  (D 32087)

Oct 9, 2012, 9:31 PM
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Re: [rmsmith] Age 35, 11,000 jumps and low turn fatality? [In reply to] Can't Post

well swooping is an activity for very little room for error, especially at the speeds people can generate using modern swooping canopies. so its not very surprising to me that people die from it.


Premier SkymonkeyONE  (D 12501)

Oct 10, 2012, 10:09 AM
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Re: [waveoff5500] Age 35, 11,000 jumps and low turn fatality? [In reply to] Can't Post

Just read the older thread about the Perris fatality. There were some very good points made in that thread about "sight picture". The first time I competed at Perris in 2000 I was woefully unprepared for the pond. I, a Raeford guy, was used to dialing in my turn based on the sight picture I was used to at home. Tall pine trees, a flag pole, a very-well marked swoop lane. I used to throw my turn based on those land marks. The first time I threw a turn at Perris I was way too low, way too far back, and had to bail off to the side halfway across the pond. Jim Slaton laughed at me. It was at that meet that I learned that you MUST trust your devices and you cannot trust your senses. It really didn't matter since I still destroyed a canopy, piled in straight to the bottom of the pond and put an idiot lawyer in the hospital. There are ZERO references at the Perris pond. I've not competed professionally since 2005, but I never, ever take landing a parachute lightly.

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rmsmith

Oct 11, 2012, 12:31 AM
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Re: [stratostar] Age 35, 11,000 jumps and low turn fatality? [In reply to] Can't Post

I forgot an important detail, 3:1 wing loading too. Usually by your thirties you become aware of your mortality. Plus I can't imagine that there are that many 35-yr/old with 11,000 jumps out there. Anyone?


Squeak  (E 1313)

Oct 11, 2012, 1:46 AM
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I forgot an important detail, 3:1 wing loading too. Usually by your thirties you become aware of your mortality. Plus I can't imagine that there are that many 35-yr/old with 11,000 jumps out there. Anyone?
there are LOADS of folks with that many jump numbers, a lot are still in there 20s.


stratostar  (Student)

Oct 11, 2012, 5:45 AM
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Re: [rmsmith] Age 35, 11,000 jumps and low turn fatality? [In reply to] Can't Post

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I forgot an important detail
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Detail's don't matter to the reaper.


in2jumping  (C License)

Oct 11, 2012, 1:03 PM
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Re: [stratostar] Age 35, 11,000 jumps and low turn fatality? [In reply to] Can't Post

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I forgot an important detail
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Detail's don't matter to the reaper.

No, not in the end. But at "3:1 wing loading" the reaper is paying closer attention to you.


stratostar  (Student)

Oct 11, 2012, 4:24 PM
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Re: [in2jumping] Age 35, 11,000 jumps and low turn fatality? [In reply to] Can't Post

Yep, that is why if your going to dance with the devil there is no reason to go throwing banana peels out on the dance floor, but to each there own.



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