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TheDoctor2608

Oct 7, 2012, 12:39 PM
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Hey guys,

i started jumping with the gopro few days ago. But i really feel uncomfortable with this camera on my head. The big screw and the edges of the case just seem to be very unsafe. I mounted it with the curved adhensive mounts, because i hope that if a line gets stuck somewhere in the camera, the camera will be pulled off. Are there cases or other ways that make the gopro a safer camera for skydiving? Lower mounts?

Blue Skies Smile


Shredex

Oct 7, 2012, 1:01 PM
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http://www.chutingstar.com/...gopro-top-mount.html


piisfish

Oct 7, 2012, 1:07 PM
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But i really feel uncomfortable with this camera on my head. The big screw and the edges of the case just seem to be very unsafe. I mounted it with the curved adhensive mounts, because i hope that if a line gets stuck somewhere in the camera, the camera will be pulled off.

-if you don't feel comfortable with it, take it off.

-the "easy way of mounting" such a camera, has 2 advantages : it is provided, and it is easily mounted. It also has downsides : it is a line trap. Make your choice comrade.

-it will not be pulled off easily. Check, some tests have been done and documented. The plastic mount should break before the glue.

-mount a cutaway system on your helmet too.

-never forget that you have a camera on your head.

oh yeah, also welcome to the forums Smile
just a little lower there is a "camera" forum where you can also find great info. Be sure to read the "sticky" by moderator DSE about "small cameras".

Have fun and stay safe


(This post was edited by piisfish on Oct 7, 2012, 1:13 PM)


airtwardo  (D License)

Oct 7, 2012, 1:24 PM
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Can't find it now but yesterday I saw a YouTube vid of a go-pro mount being tested by purposely wrapping a pilot-chute & bridle around it.

It took 7 seconds for the adhesive mount to eventually peel off and release. That can be a lifetime in the wrong circumstance.

Personally I jump one with a side-mount L bracket.

The flat adhesive mount is positioned as far 'in' on the bracket as the housing will allow.

*I have a short bungee going over the GoPro housing and down through the bottom of the bracket, the bungee not only adds a bit of security against losing the camera it also creates a relatively smooth 45 degree angle of deflection front & back to possibly direct lines away from the protruding adjustment screw.

I filed the front & back horizontal plate corners of the L bracket into a more rounded minimal configuration and glued an angled piece of plastic to the underside of the bracket to direct lines out & away from it.

Then I completely covered the L bracket plate (front, back, top & bottom) with gaffers tape so there is no gap or seam between the bracket & helmet that might catch a line.

A completely enclosed housing might offer better protection against entanglements but I've haven't seen one that would offer unobstructed access to the buttons & full exposure for the lens.

*I do a lot of demos and as a point of procedure I try to always have a way to 'back-up' anything I attach to myself as insurance against dropping something from altitude that could potentially cause injury to spectators.

I've always used a bungee on larger format cameras but while configuring the GoPro I realized I could gain some advantage with extending the angle I made, 'rounding out' the over-all profile.

I like the concept so much I'm playing with the fabrication of a metal bracket that goes over the camera housing in the same fashion that wouldn't compress as the bugee might under the force a line under tension might apply.


gilead1  (D 26)

Oct 7, 2012, 1:25 PM
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I'm using the Low-Pro Mont,
BUT- I also have a chin-cup quick release, it is highly recomended to have a quick release, regardless of how "snag proof" your camera mount is.

be safe
Gilead


Shredex

Oct 7, 2012, 1:34 PM
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If you got a flattop you could mount it flush with one of these:
http://www.lifeisunruly.com/headcase-pro/index.html

Should add a nice 10lbs to your head! lol


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airtwardo  (D License)

Oct 7, 2012, 1:36 PM
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If you got a flattop you could mount it flush with one of these:
http://www.lifeisunruly.com/headcase-pro/index.html

Should add a nice 10lbs to your head! lol

I'm 6'4"...I don't wear top-mounts! Wink


Shredex

Oct 7, 2012, 1:37 PM
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Oh and here's the video of the bridle on the GoPro test:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsEI_6cErbM


virgin-burner

Oct 7, 2012, 2:02 PM
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last year a girl got killed at the BASEevent in KL (?), bridle wrap, didnt clear until impact..


TheDoctor2608

Oct 7, 2012, 4:13 PM
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Wow, that video really made me think! Thx for all the posts, i will now buy a case for the gopro to protect lines from wrapping around it!

Blue Skies and stay safe


nigel99  (D 1)

Oct 7, 2012, 5:06 PM
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The square one mount is very good, and can be bought from chutingstar for about $70.

For a few cents you can replace the big thumb screw with a standard M5 machine screw that is low profile. It really irks me to see the thumb screws on people's go pros, as it is so easy to get rid of. I have a handful of the right size screws in my gear bag and offer them to people who haven't bothered.


mstlaurent  (C 3321)

Oct 7, 2012, 6:23 PM
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-the "easy way of mounting" such a camera, has 2 advantages : it is provided, and it is easily mounted. It also has downsides : it is a line trap. Make your choice comrade.

So many people jump with the provided gopro mount and often without a cutaway... They can't all be wrong!
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Periapt  (D 3017)

Oct 7, 2012, 9:39 PM
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In reply to:
-the "easy way of mounting" such a camera, has 2 advantages : it is provided, and it is easily mounted. It also has downsides : it is a line trap. Make your choice comrade.

So many people jump with the provided gopro mount and often without a cutaway... They can't all be wrong!
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I realize this isn't strictly on topic, but can you imagine filming with this?
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jurgencamps  (D License)

Oct 8, 2012, 12:53 AM
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I realize this isn't strictly on topic, but can you imagine filming with this?
or this (sorry Henny)
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Abedy  (D 10153)

Oct 8, 2012, 7:37 AM
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I realize this isn't strictly on topic, but can you imagine filming with this?

My reserve helmet with both (reserve) video and photo cam mounted. Haven't used it for 2 years, though Wink


fcajump  (D 15598)

Oct 8, 2012, 8:59 AM
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In reply to:
I realize this isn't strictly on topic, but can you imagine filming with this?
or this (sorry Henny)
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I liked the picture Parachutist put in one of their April issues of a Norman Kent (I think) wearing a helmet setup with full IMAX camera... Wink


waveoff5500  (D 32087)

Oct 9, 2012, 1:35 PM
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cover any potential parts that could snag with gaffers tape for a quick cheap fix. if not, there are a number of mounts that are squared off that the whole gopro fits into and eliminates any snag points


jclalor  (B 33202)

Oct 9, 2012, 7:16 PM
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Wow!!! Someone with 100 jumps posting about their Gopro and no one yet has ripped into him?

The times they are a-Changin.


TheDoctor2608

Oct 10, 2012, 2:16 AM
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Yes, i see your point. I just want to make a video on few very special jumps. I did also train to quickly disconnect my helmet and asked some people what the important things that you have to be aware of are. The dangerous part about jumping with a camera isn't the fact that lines could wrap around it, which is quite rare, the most important fact is that before exit in the plane you don't check your gear completely anymore and you get distracted by the camera in freefall and while flying your parachute. But i turn on the camera very early, do my normal triple check in the plane and don't think about the camera. People say you need this routine to jump with a camera, so you don't forget you checks. And i can say since i did those 105 jumps in 2 month, i did get a routine, and got aware of all the risks. And the fact that i ask you people about how i can make the gopro safer to use, shows, that i do really care about my safety :-). But thank you for your comment. Blue Skies.


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piisfish

Oct 10, 2012, 2:49 AM
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I just want to make a video on few very special jumps.
get someone to film you on these jumps, you will have video OF you and not whirly blue-green video by you. There are some decent videopeople at your DZ.
You should NEVER forget you have a camera on your head.


TheDoctor2608

Oct 10, 2012, 2:55 AM
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Yeah, on my first jump with a camera (99th) there was also a camera guy filming everything from the outside. But we also wanted to have an inside view (jumped with a team partner). And i will never forget that i got a camera on my head. Thx for your comment. :-)


Premier skybytch  (D License)

Oct 10, 2012, 5:04 AM
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And i will never forget that i got a camera on my head.

Uh huh.

Puppies are so cute.


airtwardo  (D License)

Oct 10, 2012, 3:25 PM
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Yeah, on my first jump with a camera (99th) there was also a camera guy filming everything from the outside. But we also wanted to have an inside view (jumped with a team partner). And i will never forget that i got a camera on my head. Thx for your comment. :-)

Ya could always fabricate a chest mount bracket that gets it pointed in the right direction. Save you some $ on a helmet & mount that you'll only need for a few 'special jumps'.


danornan  (D 11308)

Oct 10, 2012, 4:43 PM
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Wow!!! Someone with 100 jumps posting about their Gopro and no one yet has ripped into him?

The times they are a-Changin.


Kinda like swooping, what's the use?


Premier DSE  (D 29060)

Oct 10, 2012, 4:59 PM
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Yes, i see your point. I just want to make a video on few very special jumps. I did also train to quickly disconnect my helmet and asked some people what the important things that you have to be aware of are. ....

How did you train for this? Do you have a cutaway? Or are you relying on being able to release a Fastex connector?


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