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skyjack71

Sep 29, 2012, 5:00 PM
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I will not bother to reply to any of the garbage Blevins has posted nor to the critics.

Today has been a HARD day and I called the FBI, but could only leave a message.

Then I just sat down and cried my heart out - IT IS OVER.

I am not going to even try to explain what I have found or what I am talking about. I have harped about something for yrs and I kept trying to find more information, but it evaded me.

None of YOU have walked in my shoes with the knowledge I had regarding Weber and with what has transpired on this day in Sept of 2012 - my convictions are enforced.

Will the FBI even return my call or spend a few hours regarding what I have to say - I don't know and right now I don't care? I found what I needed to find so my own heart and mind could rest in peace....

Not sure it is my health or the excitement of the potential in what I learned today...but, I am very tired.

Matt you were wrong to poke at me and NOT answer my questions - only showed what you were made of and projected your negative agenda regarding the Wavy Greene part of this. Pehaps showed u up for what you really are.

Blevins - just put down your pen and walk away before you make an ever bigger fool out of yourself....it is OVER.

To those of you who have been kind ThanK You. Even Blevins has been Kind to me - he for some reason never attacked me.

As for BK - GO TO HELL! If you had NOT got in my way and in the way of the FBI this would have been over yrs ago.

Going to go to bed after I finish crying - not because of bad new.
I have to sleep on what I have and try to figure out just how to proceed to project the information in a format that some of the Cooper xxxxx's can digest. Not in the thread and I do not expect the FBI to act on anything I have to say - but, it is time to do what has to be done and time is running out....so much to do and so little time to do it in.

Knoss is the biggest fool out there. Gray had enough sense to crawl into the rabbit hole with the Tomato cans and the Sheridan promoters will be eating crow.

Good Night.

377 now is the time to make that phone call if you are ever going to do it! You posted a picture several times - that I had a sense of familiarity about, but you never explained the significance of the pic. You know what the pic was - POST it again!
I need to see it one more time.


(This post was edited by skyjack71 on Sep 29, 2012, 5:13 PM)


mrshutter45

Sep 29, 2012, 5:34 PM
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Robert99 claimed that the times from the transcripts have problems at the start, so far it looks like Robert is correct!
I have been working on this project for several months now testing the ability of the simulator and found it it be pretty
realistic to "real flight" I have done test after test of the GPS and coordinates and found them to be as accurate as any
normal GPS. the maps I have on board also match for any Vector's I need to follow (V23) is matching up as well. I
have tested the accuracy of altitude many times even went as far as to run through the Space needle and was close
to the top with a altitude of 594, space needle is 608, the antenna or point of the needle was above me.

I check the Longitude & Latitude and found them to be accurate (with in a hundred feet or so) I put the plane on auto
pilot at 160 Knots and flew for 1 minute and flew 3 miles as Tom Kaye indicated with his calculations, I tested this
many times for sccuracy.

my Flight Engineer (Hominid) has been the best thing to this operation by keeping me with in the proper stats needed
to make the project work. he has done a outstanding job helping me with this project.

I ran two more tests today from take off to 14 miles out (DME)
I also found (Hominid) acually found the best take off time to be 7:36:33

Take off 7:36:33 jump on V23 with a average speed of 195 knots, it took 5:40 (7:41:40) seconds to reach 14 miles
out of SEA..

I then took off again at and average speed of 175 knots and the time was 6:30 (7:42:30)

I found the best time to match the slots at 7:36:33 take off time with a average speed of 180/190 until 7:40:37 then
backing down to a speed of about 160 making the 19 miles out at 7:43:30 at this point I go to 30 degree flaps.
the gear down of course! the next slot is at 7:51 flaps are now back to 15 degree's and start the climb to 10,000
my fuel flow average is about 4000 to 4500 at 160 gear down and flaps at 15, I level off at 10K and now have a
speed of 170/180 knots, coordinates around N46* 42.04 W122* 40.27 at 7:54 which seems to fit the path. at around
7:57:30 make the turn at Toledo/Maylay getting past by a little over one minute. this is where the project has ended
to date, I am now working on the 7:59 mark to 8:05.

we are still in the "testing stage" so nothing has been confirmed as of yet!

Robert I would like your take about the 7:54 mark, I belive you said something was wrong with this time as well?


RobertMBlevins

Sep 29, 2012, 5:35 PM
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Look, Jo...I'll admit I haven't read every detail on your story. The reason I never attacked you is because that would be the pot calling the kettle black. You haven't proven that Duane was the hijacker, and I haven't proven that it was KC. In fact, that 'Unscientific Height Comparison' thing I posted doesn't necessarily support the KC theory, because it shows that KC was probably shorter than my five feet ten and a half inch height. The witnesses, as we know, ranged the hijacker's height at anywhere from five nine to over six feet.

The difference between us, and the reason I haven't just 'gone away' is because of the witnesses, namely Helen Jones, Mr and Mrs Geestman, Geestman's sister Dawn, and to a certain extent, the former Mrs. Powell (She and ex-husband Robin were staying with KC when he died). I feel strongly that if the FBI were to interview these four people separately on the same day, in the same place (offices of the Seattle FBI) then they would find out for sure whether or not KC was the hijacker.

There is sufficient testimony from these people, I believe, to warrant a brief investigation by the Seattle FBI. But I've also accepted that without further evidence, or perhaps some of the witnesses approaching the FBI on their own, that this will never happen. Some of the reason I believe questioning is called for is because of Bernie Geestman's lies, and his attempts to get his sister to change her story. This isn't just Robert saying this. Both Pete Berg and Marisa Kagan would testify to the same thing, especially Kagan, who was the main contact between History Channel and Geestman before the actual filming began. My opinion is that if Geestman were truly innocent, he would not have lied, nor would he have done the things he did subsequently before and during filming of the show. It's hard to reconcile his behavior as anything but a guy who lied repeatedly, instead of doing as innocent folks do: Simply deny everything and offer a reasonable alibi.

I still think everything that can be said on KC has already been said, and that we should move on from discussing him. That is, unless something new comes up. Otherwise, I agree it's a rerun.


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Farflung

Sep 29, 2012, 8:00 PM
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Let’s try something totally scientific. Like the elevation of a roof line.

As anyone can see, by comparing these bald heads, against the roof line in the background. Kenny is at least two inches shorter than RobertMBlevins. There is simply no argument as this is science. Kenny was a little wimpy creampuff. This is confirmed and verified by living witnesses.
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RobertMBlevins

Sep 29, 2012, 8:40 PM
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Let’s try something totally scientific. Like the elevation of a roof line.

As anyone can see, by comparing these bald heads, against the roof line in the background. Kenny is at least two inches shorter than RobertMBlevins. There is simply no argument as this is science. Kenny was a little wimpy creampuff. This is confirmed and verified by living witnesses.

Guess you missed the part where I said the picture was taken in the adjoining building, in a unit with an identical floor plan to J-3?

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'NOTE: This picture is NOT from Kenny's original apartment, J-3, but from an adjoining building with a duplicate floor plan. We did measure the door sizes on both units, though, as well as the distance from the entry floor to the tops of the jambs. We also measured the distance between the centers of the light switches and the distance to both the top of the door jambs and the floor. All three parameters were identical. We couldn't use J-3 because it was occupied at that time. (They let us take measurements, but not set up inside.)'

As far as Kenny being shorter than my 5-10.5, think I said that already. Whether Kenny was a 'wimpy creampuff' is a matter of opinion.


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Robert99

Sep 29, 2012, 8:42 PM
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Let’s try something totally scientific. Like the elevation of a roof line.

As anyone can see, by comparing these bald heads, against the roof line in the background. Kenny is at least two inches shorter than RobertMBlevins. There is simply no argument as this is science. Kenny was a little wimpy creampuff. This is confirmed and verified by living witnesses.

Farflung, It is even worse than you say.

Note that Blevins apparently doesn't have any shoes on, just his socks. Also note that both of his heels are very close to the door threshold.

KC does have shoes on and is at least one-half step inside the door threshold. Those shoes should add about one-half inch to his height and would need to be substracted from his height for a direct comparison with Blevins.

KC's distance inside the door would move him closer to the camera and give the appearance that he was taller. I'll leave the estimation of how much taller to others.

But it is now almost certain that KC screwed up and gave the Department of Motor Vehicles something close to his real height, which is certainly going to be not more than 5 feet 8 inches.

Robert99


RobertMBlevins

Sep 29, 2012, 8:45 PM
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In reply to:
Let’s try something totally scientific. Like the elevation of a roof line.

As anyone can see, by comparing these bald heads, against the roof line in the background. Kenny is at least two inches shorter than RobertMBlevins. There is simply no argument as this is science. Kenny was a little wimpy creampuff. This is confirmed and verified by living witnesses.

Farflung, It is even worse than you say.

Note that Blevins apparently doesn't have any shoes on, just his socks. Also note that both of his heels are very close to the door threshold.

KC does have shoes on and is at least one-half step inside the door threshold. Those shoes should add about one-half inch to his height and would need to be substracted from his height for a direct comparison with Blevins.

KC's distance inside the door would move him closer to the camera and give the appearance that he was taller. I'll leave the estimation of how much taller to others.

But it is now almost certain that KC screwed up and gave the Department of Motor Vehicles something close to his real height, which is certainly going to be not more than 5 feet 8 inches.

Robert99

That is probably right. Let me know when you get all the witnesses in the case to agree on a description. Good luck.

You can't blame that one on me. This was IMHO one of the biggest surprises that came out of Geoff Gray's book, his claim that the witnesses were actually all over the place on the description of the hijacker, even the stews. He's the one who said he saw the FBI witness reports. He's the one who said those things about the witness descriptions in his book. I only quoted him, and this should be taken up with Geoff Gray.

Assuming he is correct in stating that witnesses placed the height of the hijacker at anywhere between five-nine and over six feet, this means two things:

First, no one was certain on the height of Cooper. In any case, they couldn't agree.

Second, unless the hijacker was either a 'little person' or an NBA player, the height description is practically useless.


(This post was edited by RobertMBlevins on Sep 29, 2012, 8:55 PM)


Farflung

Sep 29, 2012, 8:53 PM
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Gee then I guess you missed the part in the building code about the height requirements for light switches? Bzzzzt. Yes.

How about something like 43 to 48 inches? I’m sure you know the NEC and measured the switch elevation in J-3, since you’re all about quality and accuracy. Like estimating height in a fuselage being so friggin hard because you say so. I know I can’t do it.

You’re very open to external verification of your data and theories, no matter what dark recess they may originate.


RobertMBlevins

Sep 29, 2012, 8:57 PM
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Gee then I guess you missed the part in the building code about the height requirements for light switches? Bzzzzt. Yes.

How about something like 43 to 48 inches? I’m sure you know the NEC and measured the switch elevation in J-3, since you’re all about quality and accuracy. Like estimating height in a fuselage being so friggin hard because you say so. I know I can’t do it.

You’re very open to external verification of your data and theories, no matter what dark recess they may originate.

It was a casual, non-scientific effort, mostly done because we were curious, and had limited access to KC's old apartment. Yes...we measured the distances between the light switch and the floor, and between the center of the switch and the top of the jamb on both units. Big deal. It was easy to see Kenny was probably shorter than I am. Already said that...


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skyjack71

Sep 29, 2012, 9:42 PM
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For the record, I don't believe either one of your claims, i.e. your Gray quote on my honesty, and your statement on what Lyle may or may not have said in an old radio interview. It is not my job to check your empty allegations, but YOUR job to prove such allegations, since YOU were the one who said them.

PICK-UP the DAMN phone and Call LYLE. He goes to surgery in a week or so - you have a small window to verify YOUR source.

There are NO allegation by anyone - just pure truths from MORE than ONE source. Your 1st and only real source is Lyle and yet U have not even spoke to him in quiet some time. Well, have you?

Sorry Blevins I like you because you have always been respectful of me, but you have used some of your "key witnesses" in a way I do NOT respect. You have led them even if you think you did not do so. It is easy to "plant" knowingly or unknowingly false memories into the mind of some seniors when questioned about events and memories of long ago. I venture to say if you released the recording you claim to have of all of your interviews or even if you replayed them - you will hear yourself LEADING them by asking leading questions.

Sorry, this is just something that had to be said, because I do NOT
like countering someone who has been nice and very polite to me. This is one of the hardest post I have had to make.

You need to back off a little.


(This post was edited by skyjack71 on Sep 29, 2012, 9:43 PM)


RobertMBlevins

Sep 29, 2012, 10:03 PM
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Lyle isn't 'a source' to me. He's barely mentioned in the book, I didn't interview him, and he is merely a family member who pointed to his brother as possibly being the hijacker. But he had no evidence.

You will have to tell me exactly how I 'led' witnesses. Most of them answered key questions BEFORE they knew I was investigating KC for the Cooper case. In fact, I often went out of my way to avoid (when I would first meet them) telling them anything except I was doing a general bio on KC's life. Bernie Geestman and his sister are good examples. I did this because I didn't want them to go on the defensive, or taint their answers.

It's not my fault that Bernie Geestman chose to lie to me, and to History Channel. Funny thing for an 'innocent' guy to do.

I'm sorry that Lyle has to go in for surgery, though. I will contact him and offer my best wishes. He never was part of the case against Christiansen, though. I take the word of family members with a jaundiced eye. The only exception is maybe Kenny's nephew, Bruce Christiansen. He seemed embarassed about the whole thing when I talked to him at Ariel last year, and had no ax to grind.


skyjack71

Sep 29, 2012, 10:09 PM
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Blevins you stated;

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If you're going to quote me, get it right. I said it 'might be difficult to judge someone's true height within the confines of an airliner cabin, rather than out in the open...' Besides, unless you are ready to call Geoff Gray a liar, he says that according to the FBI witness reports he was allowed to view, the height of the hijacker ranged from maybe five-nine to over six feet, depending on who was being interviewed. So what's the truth?


With this one statement alone let me explain something to you.
Gray like yourself is a writer and he took liberties. I know this for a FACT because things he stated me I have scolded and ranted about to Gray himself.

He made me sound like a bar pick-up wearing a kerchief. Never wore a kerchief in my life and I was NOT in a pick-up bar, but a bar attached to the restuarant. I went there because I had been used to nice places and at that time could barely support myself and my daughter. I wanted to feel good about myself and remember how things used to be in my life. I was dressed very classy as the management job I had left required I wear the high end clothing we sold - and I loved that outfit.

Gray made it sound like I lived in the STICKS. Although I do live in a little known coastal treasure and a little laid back - it is not in the STICKS.

Gray engarnished many things in his book - just like you did, therefore do NOT take his book as GOSPEL.

Note that Cook was in the studio and Lyle was on the phone for that interview. Cook is an attorney and although he also takes liberties and uses other information - he has NOT written his book. What would you put on the table if Cook produced a recording of that program?

NOT one of us needs to call anyone to verify that radio program - YOU do! You have spent a lot of time arguing your point when ALL you need to do is pick up the DAMN phone! Talk to the commentator, talk to your subject, talk to Cook! Maybe Cook recorded it - he likes TV and radio talk programs.


Farflung

Sep 29, 2012, 10:22 PM
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OK, so this is kinda goof-ball, but it- just- might- work!

Were the light switches measured in J3 and the “Stunt Apartment” as has been claimed? The world may never know, but I do know this. The standardized measurements between the two apartments would be the light switch cover and the strike plate center on the door. I know, it’s so exciting and boner-y.

So I blew up the images of the strike plate in the jamb and the switch plates to epic proportions so they could be compared. Then I crafted a measuring tool for each image based upon the height of the switch plate which was halved from units I humbly named Farfs. No different than Fahrenheit getting degrees or a couple Roman dictators getting months named after them. So each cover plate represents a ‘Farf’ and the distance from the bottom of the switch plate to the center of the door strike plate was measured. Each image used their respective cover plates to offset any distortions.

As you can see, J3 has a total distance of 1.5 Farfs with the ‘composite’ unidentified apartment, having a full two Farfs of distance from the switch plate to the strike plate. The implications are staggering for this fledgling measurement system which men fear, and women desire.

Since the distance in the RobertMBlevins image is half a Farf, higher than in J3, that would induce a delta of 2.25 of your inches in the favor of Kenny. Oh my gawd! That means that using the light switch and the door striker as references that Kenny is half a Farf (2.25 inches) shorter than RobertMBlevins for an aggregate answer of 5’ 8 ¼ “.

There you have it, yet another dynamic bit of validation using open source techniques and processes. I’ll give everyone some time to rub down their goose bumps after viewing this treasure trove of photo measurement. You’re welcome.
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georger

Sep 29, 2012, 10:27 PM
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Gee then I guess you missed the part in the building code about the height requirements for light switches? Bzzzzt. Yes.

How about something like 43 to 48 inches? I’m sure you know the NEC and measured the switch elevation in J-3, since you’re all about quality and accuracy. Like estimating height in a fuselage being so friggin hard because you say so. I know I can’t do it.

You’re very open to external verification of your data and theories, no matter what dark recess they may originate.

It was a casual, non-scientific effort, mostly done because we were curious, and had limited access to KC's old apartment. Yes...we measured the distances between the light switch and the floor, and between the center of the switch and the top of the jamb on both units. Big deal. It was easy to see Kenny was probably shorter than I am. Already said that...

Blevins I dont fault your effort at matching in fact
what you did is better than the average person
might do - that aside .... what type of camera was
Your photo of you taken with? Do you happen to
know what the lens was and its focal length? Was
it a digital camera (cmos or ccd) or film camera
(35mm) or quick shot like one buys at a drug store?

I just need the camera info if you know it - of your
photo of you.

Im assuming Kenny's photo was taken with a 620
Brownie or something at f/8-f/12 fixed lens, if you
know that?


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georger

Sep 29, 2012, 10:42 PM
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Let’s try something totally scientific. Like the elevation of a roof line.

As anyone can see, by comparing these bald heads, against the roof line in the background. Kenny is at least two inches shorter than RobertMBlevins. There is simply no argument as this is science. Kenny was a little wimpy creampuff. This is confirmed and verified by living witnesses.

I think the scales are different - two different
cameras with different focal ratios (f# lenses).
That changes the magification, apparent size, and
depth of fields in the two photos, so they arent
strictly comparable. The switch plate in the Blevins
photo is 28pixel high ... and 23pixels high in the
Kenny photo, reflecting a difference in cameras, ie
lenses.

Within each photo however where dimensions are
comparable, isnt the standard switch plate 4.5" H
x 2.75" W. You can estimate Kenny's height in
each photo using the switch plate height as a ruler.

I tried this and Kenny comes out about 5'6-7".

I also tried a rectified photo attached and Kenny
comes out a little over 5'6" vs the first estimate
of 5' 10", using 36" as the standard door frame
width ...


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skyjack71

Sep 29, 2012, 10:43 PM
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Was unable to make out who was claiming what so just using the reply and them MY opinion.

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And what about the other witnesses? Not exactly on the same page, either:

George Labissioniere, a lawyer, got a good look at Cooper because of Cooper's trips to the bathroom. No older than 35, he said.

Exactly where did YOU get that info. Definitely NOT from Labissioniere himself! IF that is what he told the FBI at the time of the initial interviews after the crime - he CHANGED it.

You do know I exchanged communications with this attorney by phone and letter?

Maybe you need to take a vacation to FLorida.
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Bill Mitchell, the college guy, said the chin sagged.


Mitchell was the closest to Cooper and across from him. He said nothing about a sagging chin to me. He saw mostly a profile and noted what he thought was socks or long johns sticking out from under his pants. PROOF Cooper WAS not wearing BOOTS.

I also spoke with Mitchell and found him thru his daughter who was at a university. He viewed the few pictures I had at that time, but I didn't realize the witnesses mostly saw side views and not Cooper's face dead on.
My mistake 12 yrs ago not sending out profile photos.
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Robert Gregory thought perhaps Cooper's hair was 'marcelled,' created by hot irons. Gregory, who owned a paint company and prided himself on an attention to detail, says the suit was not brown or black, but a russet color. He thought the hair may have been dyed. How tall? Gregory pegged the hijacker at no more than five foot nine.

This is information provided to Gray and not to the FBI. YOU do know that Duane's hair was very wavy - and just as this man described. As Duane aged and grayed - the waves relaxed. SmileSo did mine along with everything else on my body.

I believe Gray may have taken some LIBERTIES in his interpretation of Gregory's description. Writers do those kind of things.


RobertMBlevins

Sep 29, 2012, 10:58 PM
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Sony digital. DSC- V-1. 5.1 megapixel. An oldie but a goodie. Look...there isn't any real mystery here. Kenny's license and Army records say the same thing. He was five eight. I am five ten and a half. I only did the comparison for something to do while I was at the apartments waiting for the manager to get Kenny's original rental app from the main office. I appreciate your effort, though.


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Farflung

Sep 29, 2012, 11:03 PM
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Georger,

I believe the “Ivory” plastic switch plate is 4 ½ inches give or take 1/8th. That’s one good thing about Kenny’s apartment being shabby, you won’t have to worry about decorator plates or odd dimensions.

My “Roof Line” attempt was done with the finest of Kentucky Windage and nothing more. I’m sure your measurements will be more refined since my software won’t even let me normalize pixels. At least the pump is running and this mystery of Kenny’s height can probably be narrowed to something resembling reason. Using the plate as a measure is a good technique since there are so many other unknowns, variables and road apples tossed into the mix.


georger

Sep 29, 2012, 11:10 PM
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Georger,

I believe the “Ivory” plastic switch plate is 4 ½ inches give or take 1/8th. That’s one good thing about Kenny’s apartment being shabby, you won’t have to worry about decorator plates or odd dimensions.

My “Roof Line” attempt was done with the finest of Kentucky Windage and nothing more. I’m sure your measurements will be more refined since my software won’t even let me normalize pixels. At least the pump is running and this mystery of Kenny’s height can probably be narrowed to something resembling reason. Using the plate as a measure is a good technique since there are so many other unknowns, variables and road apples tossed into the mix.

Pass the Kentucky Windage over!

I think 5'6" to 5'8" and no more is a good estimate
and if Blevins is happy with that ... Im happy!Laugh


georger

Sep 29, 2012, 11:15 PM
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Sony digital. DSC- V-1. 5.1 megapixel. An oldie but a goodie. Look...there isn't any real mystery here. Kenny's license and Army records say the same thing. He was five eight. I am five ten and a half. I only did the comparison for something to do while I was at the apartments waiting for the manager to get Kenny's original rental app from the main office. I appreciate your effort, though.

I may even have one of those in my closet crap!

Im just assuming Kenny's photo was pre-digital,
620 or 35mm ??? Im goign to look up the specs
on the Sony digital. DSC- V-1. 5.1 for the hell of it -

I CAN accept 5'8" and not a centimeter more.
You said in his stocking feet as I recall...

PS: You need to call Lyle after his surgery or
Fitzsimmons and get the staight dope.


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georger

Sep 29, 2012, 11:56 PM
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Sony digital. DSC- V-1. 5.1 megapixel. An oldie but a goodie. Look...there isn't any real mystery here. Kenny's license and Army records say the same thing. He was five eight. I am five ten and a half. I only did the comparison for something to do while I was at the apartments waiting for the manager to get Kenny's original rental app from the main office. I appreciate your effort, though.

Well that is a nice lens as are all of these Carl Zeiss
branded designs. Your lens is f2.8-4/7-28 (4x
zoom). Olympus etc followed the same lens design
paying nice royalties to Zeiss. So your camera is
f2.8 focused at infinity, with zoom clicks (3) to bring
it to f/4, f/7, and f/28. Each successive zoom click
crops the image accordingly, to a smaller frame with
the smallest frame at maximum magnification at
f/28.

Now, looking at Far's double photo the scale of the
two photos begins to make sense in terms of the
different cameras used. Im betting whoever took
your photo zommed in to frame you in the door
something like what Kenny's photo portrays, ie
same relative scale. And in order to do that with your
camera the operator hit the second zoom click and
thought 'that looks right, same scale", and took
your photo. So your photo is at around f/7.

Kenny's photo was probably f/8 being an old Brownie
620 fixed lens f/5.6-f/8 or Kodak 35mm shot at f/8.

That would explain why the scales in these photos is
roughly the same, except for the differences
Farflung noted.

Comments?


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RobertMBlevins

Sep 30, 2012, 12:08 AM
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Comments: Kenny's Army record says he was five eight. Same with the Washington State Drivers License. What I know about photography you can put into your hat.


georger

Sep 30, 2012, 12:16 AM
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Comments: Kenny's Army record says he was five eight. Same with the Washington State Drivers License. What I know about photography you can put into your hat.

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matthewcline  (D 21585)

Sep 30, 2012, 7:54 AM
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Jo, I do not "poke" at you, you just take every question personally.

There are many "Wavy Greenes", but it is not my job to prove Weber is Cooper, it is my job to call into question things I see or think are wrong.

I also see no "revelation" in Duane's fraudulent enlistment to the Army. He got caught before he could do much, so if there is a record, and it survived the fires in the warehouse, it would be pretty thin. But I also think the Navy record, IMO, would be thin, but to you it may be in "great detail".

I hope last night you found the evidence that proves us all wrong, and is the true story.

I never said he couldn't be Cooper, just doubt he was, as I have not seen any direct evidence that makes the logical leap.

Matt


Farflung

Sep 30, 2012, 10:20 AM
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RobertMBlevins offers yet another example of Cooper research logic with:

On the matter of Helen Jones saying that Kenny smoked Raleigh cigarettes, she was sure on this point. In her original interview, she named Camels as Kenny's brand (she is a former smoker) but later realized she had named her own brand. She then drove up to find me in Bonney Lake to correct her mistake.”

They were absolutely, positively, assuredly and without douchebaggery aforethought; Camel cigarettes. And that’s my final answer!

So Helen Jones (her real name) is an awesome source because she said that Kenny smoked Camels in her ‘original interview’, which was a general bio on some Northwest purser with an unknown author. Weird, but my suspension of disbelief hasn’t been pressed into an Atomic Wedgie yet.

Since Helen Jones is not a three alarm wacko, she goes home and thinks about this interview which she was “sure on this point” until she wasn’t sure on the point. Then she….. picked up the phone…. No, no… she hacked out a brief email that said ‘It was Raleighs NOT Camels, sincerely Helen”; nope not that either. This banal piece of information about some obscure person and the brand of cigarettes he smoked somehow grew to epic levels, while she was fermenting at home. It’s off to the Bat-shit-crazy-mobile and a drive to Bonney Lake where there is video being shot, this must be fixed! But she didn’t know this was about DB Cooper? Ummmm….. now my suspension of disbelief isn’t so happy anymore.

Does every Cooper story have to be packed with drama and behaviors which only exist on TV or in the movies? I mean really, who drives to Bonney Lake to change the brand of smokes? It is pure BS.
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