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Skydivers Land on Submarine Base

 


Deisel  (D 31661)

Aug 14, 2012, 7:20 AM
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http://abcnews.go.com/...se-ga-coast-17000020

I've never jumped at St Mary's but have to assume that this gets discussed. And for those that don't know; submarine bases have nuclear weapons on them. These are some of the handfull of places where Deadly Force is no shit authorized.

Act of God my ass. Crazy Learn to read weather, spot the aircraft, and fly your canopy. Amazingly, if you do this your chances of landing out decrease dramatically. If you exit later in the jump run, you must reverify that the spot is still valid from where the green light first came on. Don't assume that you're good just because everyone else got out! Let's stay heads up out there guys.

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riggerrob  (D 14840)

Aug 14, 2012, 8:12 AM
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Not a first, but the navy does not like to talk about it.

Richard Marcinko (sp?) used to do that for a living when he was a SEAL. He jumped, swam, crawled, into a variety of naval bases and embarrassed so many base commanders that he was "encouraged to retire from the navy."
Those sort of military skills may be valuable in war-time, but embarrass too many politically-important officers during peace-time.
Now Marcinco makes his living writing fictional versions of what he used to do for a living.


jimjumper  (D 11137)

Aug 14, 2012, 10:29 AM
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Actually he was asked to retire after a whole lot of expensive stuff that he signed for and authorized use of ended up missing! He was a whole lot better as a Seal than he was at logistics. He also got the Navy sued when he kidnapped the Seal Beach Naval Weapons Station civilain head of security at his home as a way to gain access to the base during an excercise. The civilian signed employment waivers so he couldn't sue but after waving guns in his wife's face at her civilian home, she sued and got a whole pile of money!


airtwardo  (D License)

Aug 14, 2012, 10:51 AM
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Didn't he get in trouble for 'capturing' Air Force One as well?


normiss  (D 28356)

Aug 14, 2012, 11:09 AM
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Yessiree!
LaughLaughLaugh

Dig his knives he designed as well....although I don't have one of the Striders, I do have a couple of Kershaws that seem to have based it's design on the RW-1 and 2.
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airsport  (D 12544)

Aug 14, 2012, 11:14 AM
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http://abcnews.go.com/...se-ga-coast-17000020

I've never jumped at St Mary's but have to assume that this gets discussed. And for those that don't know; submarine bases have nuclear weapons on them. These are some of the handfull of places where Deadly Force is no shit authorized.

Act of God my ass. Crazy Learn to read weather, spot the aircraft, and fly your canopy. Amazingly, if you do this your chances of landing out decrease dramatically. If you exit later in the jump run, you must reverify that the spot is still valid from where the green light first came on. Don't assume that you're good just because everyone else got out! Let's stay heads up out there guys.

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New jump pilot, working around some build ups. 2 landed on the DZ and the other 2 felt like the baseball diamonds were a better option... There's a good bit of no-mans land between the exit point and the DZ. As Roger Nelson used to say "Better mud than blood."

The DZ has a very complete drop zone orientation video that every new jumper sees prior to make their first jump. It shows P-50 and the base fence line.

From my position they did the best they could do under the circumstances.

No green light just a Cessna 182... I know big door with a great view.

I personally point out the "Nuclear Super Max Prison" that is P-50. I tell em that "there is a laser that will turn you to ashes before you hit the ground....." I'm pretty sure that gets the message across. The base extends quite far around P-50.


airsport  (D 12544)

Aug 14, 2012, 11:17 AM
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Not a first, but the navy does not like to talk about it.

Richard Marcinko (sp?) used to do that for a living when he was a SEAL. He jumped, swam, crawled, into a variety of naval bases and embarrassed so many base commanders that he was "encouraged to retire from the navy."
Those sort of military skills may be valuable in war-time, but embarrass too many politically-important officers during peace-time.
Now Marcinco makes his living writing fictional versions of what he used to do for a living.

I'm sure Dick wouldn't have as much success these days... Things have changed!


Arvoitus  (D 3917)

Aug 14, 2012, 10:02 PM
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Actually he was asked to retire after a whole lot of expensive stuff that he signed for and authorized use of ended up missing! He was a whole lot better as a Seal than he was at logistics. He also got the Navy sued when he kidnapped the Seal Beach Naval Weapons Station civilain head of security at his home as a way to gain access to the base during an excercise. The civilian signed employment waivers so he couldn't sue but after waving guns in his wife's face at her civilian home, she sued and got a whole pile of money!

Sounds like a guy who knew how to get things done.


riggerrob  (D 14840)

Aug 15, 2012, 10:43 AM
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Actually he was asked to retire after a whole lot of expensive stuff that he signed for and authorized use of ended up missing! He was a whole lot better as a Seal than he was at logistics. He also got the Navy sued when he kidnapped the Seal Beach Naval Weapons Station civilain head of security at his home as a way to gain access to the base during an excercise. The civilian signed employment waivers so he couldn't sue but after waving guns in his wife's face at her civilian home, she sued and got a whole pile of money!

Sounds like a guy who knew how to get things done.

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People like Marchinco (sp?) are valuable in wartime, but embarrassing in peace-time.

e.g. Yes, we told you to shoot officers, but please limit your shooting to ENEMY officers!


obelixtim  (D 84)

Aug 15, 2012, 3:53 PM
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People like Marchinco (sp?) are valuable in wartime, but embarrassing in peace-time.

e.g. Yes, we told you to shoot officers, but please limit your shooting to ENEMY officers

Sometimes the enemy officers are the less dangerous ones.


mjosparky  (D 5476)

Aug 15, 2012, 11:14 PM
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People like Marchinco (sp?) are valuable in wartime, but embarrassing in peace-time.

e.g. Yes, we told you to shoot officers, but please limit your shooting to ENEMY officers

Sometimes the enemy officers are the less dangerous ones.

And that is the truth.

Sparky


rockola  (E 2631)

Aug 17, 2012, 12:45 AM
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Sometimes the enemy officers are the less dangerous ones.
Gospel according to Stalin?



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