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rico1931  (B 34339)

Jul 18, 2012, 11:50 AM
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Just came across this online and thought why in the world.. but I wanted to get other peoples feelings about ghetto rigging a students helmet to a radio like this picture. I'm just thinking how easily this could potentially snag when a student opens....
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peek  (D 8884)

Jul 18, 2012, 12:02 PM
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Some people are just not very mechanically inclined!

That radio looks large enough to have a decent speaker in it and probably a decent audio circuit too, so I don't know why it wouldn't work well on the student's chest strap.

Some of the cheaper radios, like the ones used in the FRS band, have weak audio and would be better placed on the helmet over the ear.

Bu the one in the picture doesn't even look like it is over the ear! Strange.

Oh, well, duct tape is strong. What could possibly go wrong?


DaVinciflies

Jul 18, 2012, 2:47 PM
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Is "ghetto rigged" the new PC term? Laugh


CSpenceFLY  (D 25252)

Jul 18, 2012, 3:06 PM
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Might be his video camera


dirtbox  (D 31759)

Jul 18, 2012, 4:02 PM
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or the normal mounting system broke during the day and they couldn't fix it that day... I doubt anyone is going to tape a radio to a helmet all season. My tandem pants had tape on the knee last weekend... the jumpsuit maker on DZ didn't have time to patch them during the weekend...


popsjumper  (D 999999999)

Jul 18, 2012, 7:35 PM
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or the normal mounting system broke during the day and they couldn't fix it that day...
So...it's OK to create potential problems for a student because they "couldn't fix it"?

Not in my world.


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I doubt anyone is going to tape a radio to a helmet all season.
One can only hope but OTOH, you can;t fix stupid.


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dirtbox  (D 31759)

Jul 18, 2012, 8:44 PM
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I do see your point but let's be real, taping a radio to the helmet for a day so a student can make a jump (as opposed to ground all students) isn't the most wreckless decision ever made... so which is the bigger hazard - a radio taped to the left side of the helmet or a student with no radio?


though I guess I am now wondering how small of a DZ it is to only have one student radio helmet (got help them of they have someone with a head other than that helmets size).... maybe they can't be fixed Wink


Liemberg  (Student)

Jul 18, 2012, 9:03 PM
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They have only one radio.

And since they have 4 helmet sizes (S, M, L, XL) they found out that it was the easiest to just tape it
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dirtbox  (D 31759)

Jul 18, 2012, 9:40 PM
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for what they spend on tape a year they could buy the radios... or atleast a better system for attaching them (chest strap and ear piece???) ... someone said something about fix and stupid?Crazy


Liemberg  (Student)

Jul 19, 2012, 12:13 AM
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for what they spend on tape a year they could buy the radios...

Depends on the amount of students per year. And they probably had a large roll of ductape in store already - No serious DZ can go without it since that stuff is specially made to keep skydiving planes from falling apart in midair.

Never ceases to amaze me that some skydivers don't even know the most basic facts of the industry. Tongue


popsjumper  (D 999999999)

Jul 19, 2012, 12:49 AM
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I do see your point but let's be real, taping a radio to the helmet for a day so a student can make a jump (as opposed to ground all students) isn't the most wreckless decision ever made... so which is the bigger hazard - a radio taped to the left side of the helmet or a student with no radio?
Well, call me a safety nut and I'll be happy with that.

There is a third option:
- think in terms of the student jumping some time when all is well. It's not mandatory to put a student in the air and sometimes keeping them on the ground is the best option.


Do some DZs mount radios to the outside of student helmets? Yes. Is it the best option? No...not by a long shot, IMO.

IMHO, radios inside the jumpsuit with small headphones into the helmet is a good option.


(This post was edited by popsjumper on Jul 19, 2012, 12:49 AM)


popsjumper  (D 999999999)

Jul 19, 2012, 12:54 AM
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for what they spend on tape a year they could buy the radios...

They have only one radio.

And since they have 4 helmet sizes (S, M, L, XL) they found out that it was the easiest to just tape it.

Depends on the amount of students per year.

Never ceases to amaze me that some skydivers don't even know the most basic facts of the industry. Tongue

And what amazes me is that some DZs and instructors would trade off student safety for "easier" or "cheaper". What's even more amazing is that the practice is so common.
CrazyCrazyCrazy


dirtbox  (D 31759)

Jul 19, 2012, 9:33 AM
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nah our planes are held together with structural chewing gum...the stickers are just there until the gum sets :P


rehmwa  (D 12816)

Jul 19, 2012, 1:02 PM
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IMHO, radios inside the jumpsuit with small headphones into the helmet is a good option.

Our radios are small enough (like a pack of cards), that I think some could be mounted right inside the shell of a ProTec. Seems even there, that would be a small modification anyway to slot them in. Or, for those rich DZO's (Laugh) - buy them built with a cavity just for the radio.

If one had enough radios to do that on all the helmets (with an easy way to recharge without disassembly) - that would be ideal.

Wishes and dreams.....


Skybear

Jul 19, 2012, 1:41 PM
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Old school Pecos Style Wink


rehmwa  (D 12816)

Jul 20, 2012, 10:41 AM
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Old school Pecos Style Wink

Mr. HICKS!! Let's just turn the volume up just a tish on that ol' radio


deadwood  (D 9930)

Jul 23, 2012, 8:07 PM
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I just don't like that antenna sticking out there on the head. Looks like a nice place to catch a pilot chute or bridle.
But I'm just an old fuddy duddy.


milehigheric  (C License)

Jul 24, 2012, 2:05 AM
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The helmets I had doing my AFF were great. Radio was fully integrated inside the helmet and when you were done you would just chuck it on the rack and plug in the AC into the back so it was ready for the next sucker.

I would nearly walk away if I rocked up to my AFF and they showed me that.



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