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Jul 4, 2012, 6:01 AM
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I thought it's a PC, but upon closer inspection I am not sure.
The canopy is all taffeta
No data panel, but I can see factory panel ink stamps.
The amount of turn slots threw me off, as did the the number of vents in the rear.

My best guess is that this may be a modified Mark II..

Any clues ?
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andrewhilton  (D 32371)

Jul 4, 2012, 1:49 PM
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No idea. Does this help?
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andrewhilton  (D 32371)

Jul 4, 2012, 1:55 PM
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dgw  (C License)

Jul 4, 2012, 2:52 PM
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None of the above, as far as I can see..


pchapman  (D 1014)

Jul 4, 2012, 3:50 PM
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Just guessing:
Could it be a home modification of a common design?

I haven't looked in detail, but it is somewhat close to a Mark II PC, but with a bigger central aft drive hole. Does that aspect look factory built or not? Extra holes cut out at the back can also explain a missing data panel. I've seen that before.


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Jul 4, 2012, 5:27 PM
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Could it be a parasail rather than a parachute?

Wendy P.


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Jul 4, 2012, 5:35 PM
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Could it be a parasail rather than a parachute?

Wendy P.

It's definitely a parachute (came with a slag and a container with 1.5 shot capewells :). I am quite confident it's a Mark II PC with a removed rear panel for better drive (and thus missing the ID markings) and patched vents on the bottom most of the skirt rear


Beatnik  (D 1051)

Jul 4, 2012, 7:02 PM
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I would say it is a Mark II with the data panel removed to give a little more forward drive which could be the reason you can't find it. THe panels match up so does the general look and construction from what I can tell.


SStewart  (D 10405)

Jul 6, 2012, 8:38 AM
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Looks like a French Papillion to me.


drjump  (D 2785)

Jul 6, 2012, 8:57 AM
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Nothing in Poynter's manual matches this canopy! Looks home made to me! With lots of patches.


andrewhilton  (D 32371)

Jul 6, 2012, 11:34 AM
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I seem to recall Henny Wiggers has a Mk2 PC converted to a Mk1, stamped as a Pioneer factory conversion. Calling Holland.....


Beatnik  (D 1051)

Jul 6, 2012, 2:13 PM
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Andrew already posted the information for those that doubt. The second post in this thread has an attachment called pc slots. The middle one, the Mark II, has panels that are exactly the same as the photos that Paul posted. You can't really get any closer than that. My guess also comes from the 20+ PCs that I have owned and the 8 I currently own. It might be something else but I am pretty confident that it is a Mark II.

Removing the middle panel was a common mod done on PCs to give them more forward drive. This wasn't unique to Mark II's. Mark I's had them done as well. I have a slider that someone made from a PC data panel.


denniscoursey

Jul 6, 2012, 6:51 PM
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In reply to:
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I thought it's a PC, but upon closer inspection I am not sure.
The canopy is all taffeta
No data panel, but I can see factory panel ink stamps.
The amount of turn slots threw me off, as did the the number of vents in the rear.

My best guess is that this may be a modified Mark II..

Any clues ?
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lekstrom10k  (D 3001)

Jul 6, 2012, 8:03 PM
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If it was a markII it wouldnt have a drive hole Its right on 24 gores for a PC. It isnt a 23 Russian as the vents are wrong. Check the line lengths to compare it to charts for other models Its neither Paps USA or French as the nose doesnt have the vents abovethe skirt right


jgc372

Jul 16, 2012, 6:18 PM
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Competition Para Commander or a copy of same. Mid seventies, was brought out to compete with Papion.


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Jul 16, 2012, 7:10 PM
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Competition Para Commander or a copy of same. Mid seventies, was brought out to compete with Papion.

Even I can say that it's incorrect.

This canopy would be a dog compared to the true CompPC, considering it's missing a turn slot from each side and some of the rear drive slots.

left side image is of the factory CompPC
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Jul 17, 2012, 4:19 AM
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OMG -- Cosmic Puke!

Wendy P.


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Jul 17, 2012, 11:56 AM
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OMG -- Cosmic Puke!

Wendy P.

Pizza anyoneCrazy

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Jul 17, 2012, 12:59 PM
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In reply to:
In reply to:
OMG -- Cosmic Puke!

Wendy P.

Pizza anyoneCrazy

R

The PizzaPuke CompPc was very popular when i packed it at the DZ amongst thes squares ;) it also seems to land me quite well at 173lbs + gear


Mountainsky1  (D 6397)

Aug 5, 2012, 3:42 PM
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it's a Mark II PC with the "dog House" removed.

The reason there is no data panel.

Cheers,

MJ



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