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What's the single thing you've learned that has improved your swoop?

 


DaVinciflies

Jun 25, 2012, 3:45 PM
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Safety margin, speed, distance - whatever type of improvement you like.

For me the thing I learned recently which made a big difference was to try to release the front risers over a three second count. It is quite hard to control, but has made a difference to my speed as the canopy recovers.

I have had to take my initiation altitude up though!


browny05  (F 752)

Jun 25, 2012, 6:59 PM
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breathe, easiest way to do this is to sing or talk yourself through what your doing. sounds weird but worked for me.
This technique also also improved my girlfriends basic canopy flight overnight.
She sings teddy bears picnic from about 2000ft down, shes gone from pounding in on a Pilot 170 to landing CRW lightning 126s beautifully in a very short amount of time, by singing/breathing relaxing.


Premier ianmdrennan  (D 25821)
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Jun 25, 2012, 7:16 PM
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Finish the turn strong.


Amazon  (D License)

Jun 25, 2012, 7:27 PM
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Finish the turn strong.

Um yeah... and land in the very soft swamp at the end of the swoop lake when you bail... I will show you da video some timeAngelic

I leave the swoopin to the youngins now..Sly


AggieDave  (D License)

Jun 25, 2012, 7:56 PM
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Finish the turn strong.

I felt it was like "throw your canopy to the ground" at the end of the turn. Really put the BAM into the dive.


DaVinciflies

Jun 25, 2012, 8:09 PM
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Finish the turn strong.

Do you mean by this to start the turn with a slower rate of rotation and build to a "snap" at the end?


berchtoldaj  (D License)

Jun 26, 2012, 4:43 AM
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Learning how to fly a pattern in any wind speed and direction.


jacketsdb23  (D 29802)

Jun 26, 2012, 5:29 AM
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Recognizing my attitude and behavior pattern on the way to the DZ. I found on days where I "had" to swoop, I did terrible. Recognized this most on days after 2+ weeks away (business, RW, etc.) I've learned to relax and enjoy the process.


chuckakers  (D 10855)

Jun 26, 2012, 6:13 AM
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Finish the turn strong.

Ian, could you detail that for me?


hparrish  (D 25090)

Jun 26, 2012, 7:27 AM
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Know why to bail, when to bail, and how to bail. You don't have to swoop on every landing, and you don't have to finish every turn you start.


superstu  (D License)

Jun 26, 2012, 7:32 AM
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For me personally it's all about the mental state. Realizing that it's just swooping and not the end all be all of my life. Breath, relax, have fun, and enjoy the journey.

Other than that...flying a good pattern/set up is key


chuckakers  (D 10855)

Jun 26, 2012, 8:04 AM
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Know why to bail, when to bail, and how to bail. You don't have to swoop on every landing, and you don't have to finish every turn you start.

That's the one I try to get into every pilot's head. Bailing when you don't have to won't hurt you. Not bailing when you should will kill you.


DaVinciflies

Jun 26, 2012, 8:30 AM
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Awesome stuff. To collate what we have so far (I put the safety-specific ones at the top, others in no particular order):

- Know how to bail
- Know why/when to bail
- Don't fall into the "have to swoop" trap.

- Learn to fly an accurate pattern/set up in any wind speed/direction
- Finish the turn strong (hopefully Ian will give us a little more detail on this)
- Breathe (and/or singing!)
- Slow release of fronts to start recovery (ie. be smooth, or perhaps I mean "mooth").


freeflyn  (D License)

Jun 26, 2012, 11:36 AM
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flying a pattern that facilitated me in reaching my initiation point at a consistant altitude in a variety of wind conditions


DaVinciflies

Jun 30, 2012, 4:13 PM
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Here's one for the safety side of things:

Don't put all your fingers through the dive loops - it means you have nothing left to hold the toggles with and could lead to a dropped toggle as you remove your hand from the dive loop.


krisco  (C 3244)

Jul 4, 2012, 7:24 PM
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#1 - Eye ball the ground! digital altimeters are great and so are audible altimeters but your Eyes are the BEST!! Use them and trust them.
#2 - Concentrate on accuracy first! Be able to land in any direction no matter what the winds are doing and be able to finish the Swoop where you want!
#3 - Once you can do that, you can start worrying about techniques and degree of turn!

#1 - Oh and the most important!!! Look Awesome, Be Rad and Remember Safety is always #3


rhanold  (D License)

Jul 17, 2012, 4:50 PM
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When I was doing 270's I used to say the swoop is won or lost at 1000 ft, meaning if you put the thought into it before the turn it will pay off and if you are not in the right place at 1000 ft don't force it.

Now days it is won or lost at 1500ft.





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